Dalat

[Guest]

Does Anyone Know Where You can Get Dalat, The 30 foot tall Vietnamese Landrace?

I remember seeing a review on OG back in the day, and just recently in an article from that ht grow guide..

I have yet to see it forsale anywhere though..

Anyone with info?

Thanks

bILL

 

[Neptune]

Dalat is not the 30 footer, but it does get tall... I may yet be corrected.

The OG fellow did a cross of Dalat X C99 also... i forget his name

Dalat and it's crosses all flower for 14-20 weeks...
good luck bruthamon

 

[zamalito]

I believe it's actually two words Da Lat. Its height is kind of dependent on the light cycle of where you live. I doubt it gets anywhere near that tall in vietnam though. Some people grow it indoors with a pretty decent yield. Green hornet seeds sells a pure vietnamese inbred on generation since the mid 70's. Its probably not from Da Lat but is a pure vietnamese that flowers 150 days.

 

[Guest]

thanks my brothers... always appreciate the knowledge

bILL

 

[Guest]

Dalat X c99 was done by a few peeps. UB sent C99 pollen to a few peeps to make the cross.

i grew the cross, and was overwhelmed with the plants. couldnt keep up with um, they grow like no other sativa ive tried. there big thick stalked plants that just go and go. C99 didnt make a dent in the Dalat, flower time did not come down, buds were the hatry type sativa bud, big, but just strings of small calyx.

at 22 weeks they were still goin, poppin new sprouts. what i cut down i tried smokin but it was just to nasty. real green.

im not a pro with the long sallies, and chalk it up to my pizz poor growin prowess. what straight Dalat i had just went to charity., imo there a serious outdoor plant.

ive used the dalat pollen on a afghani, and hit the dalat with some jacks cleaner, see if they will tame the beast some.

 

[Guest]

Here's the background story on the Dalat:

Vietnamese Land Race Seeds: 'Da Jungle Kind'

Thirty-two years ago I was a 20 year old fresh faced and very naive young man sent to S. E. Asia by our government. I was caught up like so many of my generation in the wide sweeping "net" of the last military draft of the last century, and sent to fight in Viet Nam.

I became a helicopter pilot and flew all over the central highlands of Viet Nam, circa 1970-71. Of all the the things that I experienced, and of all the places that I "visited" while there, one of the most remarkable in a war of renowned remarkability, was the sight of 30 foot tall plantation style cannabis plants in a little known province called Dalat.

Dalat is off the beaten track, nestled between two mountain ranges at an altitude of around 6000 feet above sea level(It was the birth place of Ho Chi minh and therefore "off limits" to the V.C.), and really only accessible from the air ( I had a distinct advantage because of my air mobility!).

While there I met the "owner of the "plantation", a wonderful old French gentleman, and he was always more than kind when it came to sharing in his bounty! For our part we kept him well stocked with much needed, and hard to get, staples and supplies. Without a doubt it was the most remarkable "herb" I've ever experienced, and these past 32 years I've never seen the equal of those "Dalat 100's"!

Anyway...a fellow compatriot and veteran recently "re-visited" the very same plantation, and much to his surprise, found the heirs of our old friend carrying on the generations old "family tradition". The stories he tells of wandering for hours, through row after row of "trees the size of fence posts, with buds as big as a big mans leg..." are truly amazing. But that's another story, for another time.

Here's my question: by a stoke of good fortune, and also because of the seeds of friendship and good Karma that we sowed over 30 years ago,my friend was able to "bring back a generous lifetime supply of pure land race sativa seeds of a variety not seen in the "world" in over 30 years! So...I need your help in the cultivation of this special plant. What's the best advice you can give me, concerning all aspects: lighting, soil, temperature, etc. for an indoor grow??? For my part I promise to spread these genetics around to as many people as I can.

Di Wee Dalat

Last edited by Di Wee Dalat on July 18th, 2003 at 07:00 PM

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Here's an update on my grow. Thanks to all here who have helped me get this far.

Photos attached are of a S.E. Asian strain from Vietnam. These are pictures 20 days into flowering. Two phenotypes noticed: 1. Tall single bud structure along the main stem; 2. more branching with buds growing at end of branches.

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Hey Viper! They are really looking nice. They've stopped stretching so much and now just seem to be concentrating on developing buds. Virtually NO SMELL. Most days I have the room completely open with a fan bringing in fresh outside air, and you can't smell a thing. If you get up real close and smell a bud however they smell pretty sweet. I have one male that I am going to use to pollinate a couple of the females.

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"Vietnamese grass is one of the most powerful, transforming herbs in the world.... When I got high on that stuff,...I began to understand that life is sacred, that life has great vibrancy...." - Oliver Stone

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From High Times:

The story of a war-veteran helicopter pilot who never got higher than when he smoked the fabled Vietnamese strains while “in country.” Decades later, he seeks out these same plants to grow for himself at home and to smoke through his retirement.

Story & photos by Dr. Dalat

Thirty-two years ago, I was a 20-year-old fresh-faced and very naive young man sent to Southeast Asia by the US government—caught up, like so many of my generation, in the wide, sweeping net of the final military draft of the last century and sent to fight the war in Vietnam. As a helicopter pilot, I flew all over the central highlands of that country, circa 1969-71, and experienced much of the worst that man has to offer his fellow man, but also plenty of the best. One of my most remarkable memories was discovering a plantation of 30-foot-tall cannabis sativa trees in a very isolated province called Dalat.

Dalat at that time was way off the beaten path. Nestled between two mountain ranges at an altitude of around 4,500 feet and really only accessible from the air (I had a distinct advantage because of my air mobility), the region was rumored amongst the grunts to be the birthplace of Ho Chi Minh, North Vietnam’s spiritual and political leader, and therefore off limits to the enemy Viet Cong. The truth of the matter was, of course, quite different. In reality, the VC used Dalat for R&R (rest and relaxation) for their troops and therefore, quite wisely, refrained from initiating any action in and around the province. In effect, both sides considered it an unofficial “no-fire zone.”

While on one of my many fly-ins to Dalat City, I met the owner of the cannabis plantation—a wonderful older French gentleman who was always more than kind when it came to sharing his bounty. For our part, those of us in the helicopter crews kept him well stocked with much-needed and hard-to-get staples and supplies that we would scavenge from the various US base mess halls and supply depots that we visited regularly.

The best of the sativas came from the highland areas of Vietnam, places like Ban Me Thuot and Pleiku, and were similar to the highland Thai sativas in almost all respects. The very best of all were grown in the province of Dalat—cultivated for centuries by the indigenous tribes of mountain people known as Montagnards (although in their language, they refer to themselves as “Human Beings”), these crops produced without a doubt the most remarkable and mind-expanding herb I’ve ever experienced.

Keep in mind that the Montagnard people are an ancient culture, with no real written record—only stories passed down from generation to generation. I recall most vividly sitting amongst the tribal chieftains and listening to them chant stories about “the beginnings of time” and how cannabis had been with them forever to guide them on their spiritual journey of pantheism. They have two words in their language for cannabis. The first translates loosely as “Path to the Gods.” The second is used only if you smoke too much of this fine herb, and it describes the state of mind of someone who has done just that. It translates simply as “The Mind of God.”

For many of us who served the “Masters of War” in those days, Vietnamese pot became our path to sanity, our lifeline. It was a simple yet very effective way of maintaining peace of mind amidst the chaos of the conflict—an escape from the horrendous reality of our daily lives. From 1964 to 1974, thousands of US soldiers came home from the war carrying as much of this “boo” with them as possible—introducing the exotic smokes of Southeast Asia to the world at large, the seeds of which would provide the main genetic building blocks for many modern strains of cannabis. Ask anyone who came of age during that time, and you’ll notice a quick flash of the eyes as their mind recalls the experience of smoking “the jungle kind.” Though often ridiculed by younger generations as the quaint musings of aging hippies, the sad fact remains that most folks younger than 45 simply have never experienced the mind-bending high of the pure land-race sativa strains of Southeast Asia.

 

[Bacchus]

Marksurf at OG did the orginal C99(Bens) x Dalat cross.

I do have some Dalat x Texas Mystic seeds. But I fear the monsters that they will unleash

 

[rastamonunika]

hehe bacchus!

i can only imagine the monsters that are contained in those tiny seeds ;-P

 

[zamalito]

If vietnam is close to 12/12 year round I assumed it would be nearly impossible to grow a 30 ft tall vietnamese indoors. Yet, he was able to get a fairly decent yield from them under artificial lights 12/12. I assume he was using cutting off a mature plant and rootbinding them. Does anyone know what else he was doing? I'd like to apply his technique to the colombian blacks in a greenhouse as long as it doesn't effect the expression too much.