Miraculous Meds
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DHF great post honestly i never started this thread to start shit seriously even tho i am a hot head sometimes i really was just wondering saw whats his name that benefits of vertical thread go back to horizontal after 10 years of donut drilling lol and he even mentioned he figured he could possibly see 10 oz more in yield
I don't care what anyone says when we as growers grow weed its all about yield and for those that disagree suck it cause your full of shit its about getting yields and bettering your self learning from your mistakes and setting goals for next one I am sure DHF you can relate its one hell of a exciting hobby and only one your really challenging is your self to get better then last grow and so on
I have held back on vertical cause of what i was seeing of course when some one posts pics of Heaths grow your like holy crap thats impressive but in reality i also look at journals of other members here and all over the vert grow Net and yields are not being stacked up like so many claim it is ... And that has been the deterrent from me going all out vert cause of the yields i am seeing from all other peoples grows of course your going to see some nice ones Tree grows multi light double stacked but again longer veg times obviously right more costs food what ever
when does it stop being a hobby and start being we a weed factory not to many weed growers will make millions growing weed and bottom line not to many growers can or will start running stupid power for there grow,,,, I would think 1 - 3000 watts is normal for the average grower
And for the smoking vert grows again there running lots of power
But any ways????? you might make a decent living looking over your shoulder but again matter of time before you get nabbed for some stupid thing like tax evasion pretty funny how a person has all these toys nice pad when the government can tell he hardly worked a day in his life right seen many people go down that way
DHF as i get older i don't have the balls to do big clone factories or big grows bottom line its all bull shit at the end anyways
i was offered 2 years ago make 300,000 clones for 200,000 then i thought it would take me over a month easlly and omg if i fucked up i be floating down the river ,,,, And these are bad mofo's ....
People i should not even be dealing with be like dealing with pablo if you catch my drift
you know the kind the people that flood the market making prices drop to nothing cause they pretty much run it all buy all the weed out there so i kindly bowed out when your dealing with people like that matter of time before your time is done
Most growers have to stay with a decent plant count 256 plants to make 4 pounds ?? even tho you were going back to back grows or what ever its still took lots out of you i know cause i did 3 - 4 rooms 76 plants but obviously bigger 5 week veg from clones and it was a job n a half
but after some personal shit hit the fan and things went south taking people with it i dropped plant count to my style scrogs 4 - 6 - 12 plant max it was so much easier and a relief cause now if the door came crashing in least i could possibly have a good case it was for personal use when your in the 50 + 256 they throw the book at you and your fucked how ever you look at it RIGHT
But then again chances you take
I don't care what anyone says when we as growers grow weed its all about yield and for those that disagree suck it cause your full of shit its about getting yields and bettering your self learning from your mistakes and setting goals for next one I am sure DHF you can relate its one hell of a exciting hobby and only one your really challenging is your self to get better then last grow and so on
I have held back on vertical cause of what i was seeing of course when some one posts pics of Heaths grow your like holy crap thats impressive but in reality i also look at journals of other members here and all over the vert grow Net and yields are not being stacked up like so many claim it is ... And that has been the deterrent from me going all out vert cause of the yields i am seeing from all other peoples grows of course your going to see some nice ones Tree grows multi light double stacked but again longer veg times obviously right more costs food what ever
when does it stop being a hobby and start being we a weed factory not to many weed growers will make millions growing weed and bottom line not to many growers can or will start running stupid power for there grow,,,, I would think 1 - 3000 watts is normal for the average grower
And for the smoking vert grows again there running lots of power
But any ways????? you might make a decent living looking over your shoulder but again matter of time before you get nabbed for some stupid thing like tax evasion pretty funny how a person has all these toys nice pad when the government can tell he hardly worked a day in his life right seen many people go down that way
DHF as i get older i don't have the balls to do big clone factories or big grows bottom line its all bull shit at the end anyways
i was offered 2 years ago make 300,000 clones for 200,000 then i thought it would take me over a month easlly and omg if i fucked up i be floating down the river ,,,, And these are bad mofo's ....
People i should not even be dealing with be like dealing with pablo if you catch my drift
you know the kind the people that flood the market making prices drop to nothing cause they pretty much run it all buy all the weed out there so i kindly bowed out when your dealing with people like that matter of time before your time is done
Most growers have to stay with a decent plant count 256 plants to make 4 pounds ?? even tho you were going back to back grows or what ever its still took lots out of you i know cause i did 3 - 4 rooms 76 plants but obviously bigger 5 week veg from clones and it was a job n a half
but after some personal shit hit the fan and things went south taking people with it i dropped plant count to my style scrogs 4 - 6 - 12 plant max it was so much easier and a relief cause now if the door came crashing in least i could possibly have a good case it was for personal use when your in the 50 + 256 they throw the book at you and your fucked how ever you look at it RIGHT
But then again chances you take
YO MM
Coming from my back ground of running flat for 10 or so years, and doing vert for the last 3ish years, I can say that horizontally the best I could do was right under a gpw, but I averaged around .8 more times than not. Not saying I am pro, cause im not, and people can do much better by freds example obviously.
When I switched to vert my worst run has been .8 and my best 1.5 and im still no pro, I know I got shit to dial to improve my process and yields. This being done with 2 plants per light, u don't have to do sog to benefit in vert.
I find it ironic how you claim 1.5 on vert when numerous grow journals know one is hitting them numbers So stop the chicken shit stuff and post your 1.5 gpw or it never happened and your just talking the talk
OP if ur goal with this thread was to say vert is not a automatic increase of yield, then mission accomplished we get it. If ur goal is to say that flat yields better, then grow vert to compare to ur flat and find out for ur own perspective, no one else can answer this for u. If ur not interested in growing vert then what would be the point of this thread, make urself feel better by finding like minded individuals to support ur point of view. U would do better to find them not in the vert section, if they went back to flat grows they wouldn't be hanging here in the vert forum studying these things anymore.
So to answer the op, flat 10 years, vert 3 years, use flat for veg but I don't plan on going back for flower.
The reason for this thread was just that to see if anyone went back to horizontal its not about my flat grow its about yield there buddy Now were banging heads
Yes vertical is not a guarantee for big big yield either is horizontal i guess if vert suits the grower better all good but again from the AVERAGE grower doing VERT the numbers are not there simple would you like me to scroll some journals and post there final yields ????? take me a bit but i can and surely some of these guys have been doing it allot longer then your so called 3 years maybe you should spread your secret hahaha of your 1.5 GPW
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OP how long did u do vert and why did u go back to horizontal, wait oh yeah u never did vert.
and what does the last sentence have to do with anything cause i haven't done vert Mr 1.5 again show us or it never happened and total start to finish time there SIR
I realize math might not be your strong suit as PAB and I corrected you in your previous posts but to try to mock me or be little me with that last sentence there dude what ever
Coming from my back ground of running flat for 10 or so years, and doing vert for the last 3ish years, I can say that horizontally the best I could do was right under a gpw, but I averaged around .8 more times than not. Not saying I am pro, cause im not, and people can do much better by freds example obviously.
When I switched to vert my worst run has been .8 and my best 1.5 and im still no pro, I know I got shit to dial to improve my process and yields. This being done with 2 plants per light, u don't have to do sog to benefit in vert.
I find it ironic how you claim 1.5 on vert when numerous grow journals know one is hitting them numbers So stop the chicken shit stuff and post your 1.5 gpw or it never happened and your just talking the talk
OP if ur goal with this thread was to say vert is not a automatic increase of yield, then mission accomplished we get it. If ur goal is to say that flat yields better, then grow vert to compare to ur flat and find out for ur own perspective, no one else can answer this for u. If ur not interested in growing vert then what would be the point of this thread, make urself feel better by finding like minded individuals to support ur point of view. U would do better to find them not in the vert section, if they went back to flat grows they wouldn't be hanging here in the vert forum studying these things anymore.
So to answer the op, flat 10 years, vert 3 years, use flat for veg but I don't plan on going back for flower.
The reason for this thread was just that to see if anyone went back to horizontal its not about my flat grow its about yield there buddy Now were banging heads
Yes vertical is not a guarantee for big big yield either is horizontal i guess if vert suits the grower better all good but again from the AVERAGE grower doing VERT the numbers are not there simple would you like me to scroll some journals and post there final yields ????? take me a bit but i can and surely some of these guys have been doing it allot longer then your so called 3 years maybe you should spread your secret hahaha of your 1.5 GPW
And this
OP how long did u do vert and why did u go back to horizontal, wait oh yeah u never did vert.
and what does the last sentence have to do with anything cause i haven't done vert Mr 1.5 again show us or it never happened and total start to finish time there SIR
I realize math might not be your strong suit as PAB and I corrected you in your previous posts but to try to mock me or be little me with that last sentence there dude what ever
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didn't switch back,
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ok that reply proves to me your full of shat ok i;ll post some grows 600 watt grow
Third coast grower Here is my best yield under a 600. 40 ounces or 1.86 gpw. 4 plants in 3.5 gallons of coco hand watered once a day. Strain is Red Headed Stranger. Williams Wonder x Tom Hill Haze. now You show me a 4 plant vert 1.86
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Ide rather be full of shit than full of stupid. Cmon man, wheres your 2 plant, 80 lb ppk. Keep stirring shit, youve won your own arguement.. with yourself...
And i still havent read a single one of your posts that was legible and comprehensible. Practice your sentence structure, and spelling. It makes you look extremely nubby while you argue with yourself.
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First of all why all the hate Towards me Dabs 80 pound ppk ???? whats that all about 10 pound plants where did i say i was doing that ???? i am building a ppk style of grow and setting my own goal of 4 pound plants VERY DUABLE Heath pulled 3.17 and everyone thinks they can hit it HAVE THEY ?????? Do you really know why the reason for vertical lighting started ????
Trust me you were probably still in diapers when the likes of Krusty, Heath, shaggytodope , Billy Liar, Doubled etc . were around ,, These are the people DHF hung with and learned flip flop savings on electricity That's really what its all about the ,, Power crisis chased everyone from tree growing to use vertical lighting They believed that only 40% of top light hit the plant, whereas it was as high as 70% in vertical lighting. believing that let the leafs and stems be the reflector
And to set the record straight it was doubled who got 4 pounds per plant and then 7, and Doc Greenthumbs purchase of the G13 hoarded from Newville that brought to lite how doubled had done it. Much of the yield was not due to his system at all, but the G13 strain.
The driver of change was the law: krusty, heath, and liar innovations, was law. Really of everyone's tinkering except Krusty. When the price of elec spiked, he quit growing. the energy was law; namely, plant limits in CA.
I miss them fucking guys talked to Crusty i think like 3 years ago
So just because i have not Done vert i have no say or i know fuck all about vert ???
Its like anything else really if you want to buy a car you check into reviews what other people have to say good or bad before you buy it.. its that simple
so if the plant is receiving up to 70 percent more of light why are we not seeing it in min 25 percent more yield ???? AND were not seeing it Today So that tells me something else that either its grower error or Strain
I posted this thread to find out if and how many went back to horizontal cause of the yields sure some guys like your self dabs seem to be doing alright with vert
but many are also failing miserably at it.
Hey here is a idea may-be i start a thread Vertical lighting debunked and the true myths and yields finds through out the mighty portal tunnel of the internet
Trust me you were probably still in diapers when the likes of Krusty, Heath, shaggytodope , Billy Liar, Doubled etc . were around ,, These are the people DHF hung with and learned flip flop savings on electricity That's really what its all about the ,, Power crisis chased everyone from tree growing to use vertical lighting They believed that only 40% of top light hit the plant, whereas it was as high as 70% in vertical lighting. believing that let the leafs and stems be the reflector
And to set the record straight it was doubled who got 4 pounds per plant and then 7, and Doc Greenthumbs purchase of the G13 hoarded from Newville that brought to lite how doubled had done it. Much of the yield was not due to his system at all, but the G13 strain.
The driver of change was the law: krusty, heath, and liar innovations, was law. Really of everyone's tinkering except Krusty. When the price of elec spiked, he quit growing. the energy was law; namely, plant limits in CA.
I miss them fucking guys talked to Crusty i think like 3 years ago
So just because i have not Done vert i have no say or i know fuck all about vert ???
Its like anything else really if you want to buy a car you check into reviews what other people have to say good or bad before you buy it.. its that simple
so if the plant is receiving up to 70 percent more of light why are we not seeing it in min 25 percent more yield ???? AND were not seeing it Today So that tells me something else that either its grower error or Strain
I posted this thread to find out if and how many went back to horizontal cause of the yields sure some guys like your self dabs seem to be doing alright with vert
but many are also failing miserably at it.
Hey here is a idea may-be i start a thread Vertical lighting debunked and the true myths and yields finds through out the mighty portal tunnel of the internet
unless you post pictures of your 1.5 2 plant vert grow your posts are meaning less and useless talk the talk or walk the walk
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Can we just close this thread already. It just is a drag. Such bad vibes all around. It's a plant. I wonder if tomato forums are this bullshit.
Edit nothing productive has come from here. Instead of growing better plants and seeing each other and learning it's just a epeen contest that's snowballed for pages. So many posts and time could have been spent better off in other parts of the forum.
Edit nothing productive has come from here. Instead of growing better plants and seeing each other and learning it's just a epeen contest that's snowballed for pages. So many posts and time could have been spent better off in other parts of the forum.
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How long has this thread been going. Have u got ur answer yet. good bye...
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amen, I second the vote.
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you are right, anyone can make up shit online but if you post pictures it is worth a thousand words. the problem with threads like this is the amount of people who make claims but don't have anything at all to back it up.
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