Crossing of a unknown female wild marijuana with male Jack Herrer

[Fokin]

Hi!
I am sorry, if topic was up to me.
What will be posterity if to pollinate wild female marihuana X pollen Jack Herrer?

 

[Endo]

i would assume that the wild weed would take on the some of the characteristics of the jack, impossible to tell which ones until the beans themselfs are grown out. try it.. the more beans around the better.


endo

 

[Fokin]

Thanks, most likely I shall try. Interestingly, who already did it...

 

[Guest]

When you say wild female marijauna are you refering to hemp? If it gets you high you could give it a try but if it doesn't you'd be better off crossing the Jack Herer male with something that does like decent bagseed. If you are talking crossing the wild lady with the Herer to get something that will grow well in your area I'm sure you could find a strain with good potency that'll grow where you are. On the other hand if you have some pollen handy and there is a wild female in your area already looking to get laid you could dust a few buds. As far as dedicating indoor growing area to make a cross with hemp I think you could make better use of your space. Then again, what do I know? You could get something nice but if it were me I'd cross the Herer to something that had good potency already.

 

[Fokin]

Thanks guys!

 

[suzycremecheese]

If you make F2s, from a good sized F1 population, you might be able to find something that may exceed the Jack herer in potency. The f1s might not be so valuable to you. You should find a great deal of variation in the F2s ranging from plants close to both parents as well as good mixes.

 

[Raco]

I made several crosses in the late 90´s.I used two different JH female cuttings ,vintage 97 If I don´t remember bad.For the male part I used the 2 best out of 17 colombian males from Corinto.This "Caucana" strain was very hardy and could be grown outdoors here,finishing by mid November.vey mold resistant and very uniform.Also very important is the root system.I think that the JH was originally developed for hydro systems.I´ve found that then JH has a weak root system outdoors around here.However,the f1 hybrids and beyond had a noticeable stronger roots.

"If you make F2s, from a good sized F1 population, you might be able to find something that may exceed the Jack herer in potency"

Exactly!!
Some of the f2 hybs were almost scary outdoors guerrilla grown,semi-abandoned...we harvested small to very small outdoor plants that were extremely potent,and I mean really much stronger than any of the original JH female cuttings.
So,,I´ve found that there´s advantage on crossing a "strain" (JH in this case) with a stable,decent sativa "landrace" originated in tropical areas :smile:

 

[Thule]

based on his signature "От каждого по способностям, каждому по потребностям." which I don't understand at all, I'd assume he's from a region where the wild plants are of the ruderalis type. Am I wrong? In that case the f1 would be intermediate in terms of potency, and the f2's can be anything from very week to extremely potent.

 

[Fokin]

Thule, It means - From everyone on abilities, everyone on needs.
russian

In occasion of that marihuana wild - I am not assured, however I can tell these seeds from excellent buds. Pollen JH - from a hybrid of the first generation.


Excuse Raco, I badly have understood you..

 

[wantaknow]

to make x maybe very good ,maybe not so good ,give it a try

 

[suzycremecheese]

make the cross.

Grow out all the seeds and let them freely pollinate each other. Only cull the very weak.

Grow out that generation and you should find some very good, and very bad, plants.

 

[Guest]

I made several crosses in the late 90´s.I used two different JH female cuttings ,vintage 97 If I don´t remember bad.For the male part I used the 2 best out of 17 colombian males from Corinto.This "Caucana" strain was very hardy and could be grown outdoors here,finishing by mid November.vey mold resistant and very uniform.Also very important is the root system.I think that the JH was originally developed for hydro systems.I´ve found that then JH has a weak root system outdoors around here.However,the f1 hybrids and beyond had a noticeable stronger roots.

Hola Raco,

Thank's for sharing this, some very interesting findings here I think. I too have found the same, in that the root system development of the modern poly hybrid is often not suitable for the great outdoors and that can lead to all sorts of deficiencies of course. Reintroducing Landrace genes into these lines can correct this and you can definitely find some stunning plants through these combinations in later generations.

So,,I´ve found that there´s advantage on crossing a "strain" (JH in this case) with a stable,decent sativa "landrace" originated in tropical areas

Yes, exactly. I think it is textbook example of why the Landraces are absolutely critical to the future of Cannabis breeding.

For when it is legal to cultivate not many i feel will be growing indoors, that will become a tiny fraction of the potential growers for sure. This is just one example. The same process can be followed to correct weaknesses to disease, moulds and environment in many other modern lines for both outdoors and indoors. Even some of the so called elites.

Peace, hhf

 

[Fokin]

suzycremecheese,

The matter is that pollen JH is collected, but there are seeds of a unknown origin from excellent buds, probably wild.

 

[teddybud]

so you want to grow out some bagseed and pollinate then is what you are saying? Oo..

 

[Fokin]

teddybud,

Yes, to grow up the unknown girl and to pollinate pollen JH.

 

[bigbluedog360]

do it, thats the fun of breeding your own. you've got nothing but time to lose ,but the potential to find something new and fun.

 

[Raco]

Those who breed and grow cannabis for themselves have the best relationship with the ganja plants :smile:

 

[Raco]

Guerrilla girl...I don´t even remember,but think that it was an f2 JH/Col :smile: