Couch's Outdoor germination mish mash CSI & Authentic Genetics Seed

[couchlockd]

Well well, finally decided to play with these if they germinate.

In 2003 i got 2 5 packs of cultivators choice (Sam the skunk man) if old school Thai Haze X Skunk 1.

Seeds were stored under refrigeration for the last 6 years, but from 2003 to 2018, they were just in a aluminum pill fob in a drawer at room temperature.

Soaked them for 36-48 hours in solution of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water.

Planted in Botanicare “organicare True Earth” potting soil. These are going to be germinated outside, as we have a nice little heat Wave this week, figured some natural hot humid climate may help break Thier dormancy if they’re not dead.

 

[Dropped Cat]

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[foomar]

Popped some Thunk of simlar vintage last year and got three males from ten seed.
They took two weeks to come up and were slow at first.

Best of luck.

 

[couchlockd]

Popped some Thunk of simlar vintage last year and got three males from ten seed.
They took two weeks to come up and were slow at first.

Best of luck.

Actually males from This line is my secret goal. I like to find a nice 11 13 week female in here but I'm really after some nice old school males.

 

[goingrey]

Good luck on both but while I have some faith in the seeds still popping I have absolutely none in an 11 week girl, or even 13 really.

 

[foomar]

As i remember the germination was low when they were widely distributed as freebies many years ago.

The ones i grew then were a fine smoke but very long flowering time and some intersex based on a handfull of plants.

Made some F2,s of the best girl and the first male to drop pollen , have 500 ish seed in the fridge and will pop some soon as the viability must be falling , tiny pale seed maybe 20% with luck and chems.

 

[flower~power]

Yes .. definitely good luck

 

[Sub24ox7]

I grew some two years ago. Tried to germinate 40 and got 10 plants 6 males and 4 females all sooo slow to grow as seedlings. 1 of the female plants was excellent! The other 3 were meh. I froze the male pollen but also pollinated the female thunk, mm/thai78 and Punto rojo x Congo I haven’t tried any of the crosses yet.

Good luck!

 

[couchlockd]

Eek
That's not too good looking at all.

Did it smoke good? Was there any redeeming traits at all in the final product that made the ass pain worth it?

 

[Sub24ox7]

The 1 pictured had a very loud stink to it. Hard to describe dirty smell very peppery I liked and was actually good smoke. The others were not. Probably wouldn’t grow again… too many other varieties. I love Thai haze but I just didn’t like The other plants. seeds are old and not many germ and take a long time to grow out of.
I would look elsewhere for Thai haze without the skunk#1 in it@MAHA KALA has excellent Thai haze.
Or Tom hill haze which is excellent.

 

[goingrey]

Eek
That's not too good looking at all.

Did it smoke good? Was there any redeeming traits at all in the final product that made the ass pain worth it?

It looks exactly like it should (and great). It's a sativa.

 

[foomar]

Worth it even if you dont find a keeper just for the experience if you have space or can run a lot and select.

The best smoke was 22 weeks and the yield was minimal , the high was soaring and euphoric and worth it.

It looked like shit by modern standards unless tediously manicured.

Despite this will dig some of me F2,s out and see whats there.

 

[Sub24ox7]

Definitely worth the experience! I found a very good plant. Not trying to talk it down…
I made f2s as well. I have seen some good plants come out of the f2s from other people as well.
I don’t grow many varieties more than once from seed. Too many out there to try.. got to catch them all lol..

 

[foomar]

We could be smokeing some in as little as eight months . . .

Just defridged my seed and they really look poor , small , pale and immature though they fell out the buds past full term.

Will try 30 and see if theres any life , GA3 should help.

 

[couchlockd]

Got some life popping.

So far we got;
4x Britney
2x moon stomper
1x Platinum Float
1x papaya BX
1x Sensi seeds Afghani 1
No thunks yet

 

[couchlockd]

The 1 pictured had a very loud stink to it. Hard to describe dirty smell very peppery I liked and was actually good smoke. The others were not. Probably wouldn’t grow again… too many other varieties. I love Thai haze but I just didn’t like The other plants. seeds are old and not many germ and take a long time to grow out of.
I would look elsewhere for Thai haze without the skunk#1 in it@MAHA KALA has excellent Thai haze.
Or Tom hill haze which is excellent.

I'm not looking for it specifically, I had em laying around, decided to try to germ before i toss em.

I have some really nice sativa if i want. AG Seed original hazes both regular and purple as well as the mel Frank Congolese

 

[couchlockd]

There's where we are today.

None of the thunks came up yet.
But the 4 Britney, 5 moon stompers, platinum float (x1) papaya BX (x1) and 2009 Sensi seeds Afghani 1 (x1) are all up snd looking healthy. The nl5 straggler is looking good

Also defridged 4 more strain’s, and they all got planted today after a 30 hours soak in 3 to 1 distilled water and h2o2. All had tap roots a Good solid tap after soaking.

3x paradise seeds Sensi Star
3x csi Humboldt Obama Care
3x csi Humboldt sour O’s
3x dynasty genetics ssh98 x blue magoo

Put these into 2.7" square nursery pots with individual domes

3rd group of seed being popped. I finally remember all the things i would do to germinate. The 3rd time's a charm. I was rusty those first 2 times.

 

[couchlockd]

So i think all 10 of the THUNK , Skywalker, Golden lemons, Dina Blue widow, Dina purps, and world of seeds Afghani x Hindu kush aren't going to pop. But ill leave em sit, and see what happens. But im sure they ded.

Basically everything from the 2009 Sensi seeds super skunk order didn't pop other than the actual Sensi gear. Thunk was from a 2003 ish order.

But the 5x moon stomper, 4x Britney, Afghani, Platinum Float, papaya and the NL5 looking great! They finally are hitting their vigorous stride. Also the 12 seeds i just soaked all are above ground!

 

[couchlockd]

Welp, no thunks came up
So i changed the name to More appropriate name.

So what we have going on is This. My indoor start's (7-18-24) all were being poisoned by off-gassing. So started The thunks and some older Sensi seeds Afghani freebies, and just some random stuff, such as T-Square manifestation moon stomper, true canna Britney, in house platinum float.

So after the outdoor starts were passing up the indoor ones at day 10 (indoors were on Thier 3rd week with just second set of trues . Im baffled, i know My environment is dialed in, 78 degrees, vpd @ 1.14, brisk circulation and co2 @ 768ppm +/- 50 ppm , 300 ppfd as determined From My photobio quantum meter.

So i figure ill address the issue ive had in rhe back of my mind, offgassing. All bew construction, fresh paint, caulking, floor, etc. whole room is sealed. Tons of caulking behind baseboards, and trim. Main culprit is the cheap self stick vinyl tile from the bargain basement outlet store.

So i moved the indoor seedlings to outside (5x CSI Humboldt lemon G x Lemon Party, 10 ag seed Northern lights 5, 7 ag seed (on Haze x OG Haze) x NL 2, & 3 CSI Humboldt Bubba Kush s1.

Within a half a day of being outside, The greened up, started growing and stretched between nodes.
So to absolutely confirm if it was offgassing, i took one of the most vigorous outdoor plants, stuck it in a cardboard box with open top with a piece of the offending tile. Within a matter of 4 hours the plant starts curling, getting yellow, looking nasty. Remove tile, ut gets better and vigorous again.

So i decided to Start more outside;
3x CSI Humboldt Obama Care
3x csi sour o's
3x paradise seeds Sensi Star (2001 seed stock)
3x dynasty genetics ssh98 x Blue Magoo

So i started building out a different lung room in the ground level bedroom to house My tents . JUST got finished with room a few hours ago

It's housing my 5x5 ACI tent, my 2x4 aci tent, and 2x 2x2 ACI tents, a 12k BTU portable AC, etc.

Here's current pics

Also, extremely cautious about any plastics entering this room and would you not believe it zip ties, lots of power strips, timers, caulking, have prop 65 warnings because they contain phthalates.

Now the small amount in a power strip or zip ties might not be enough to halt growth but could be the reasons why people sometimes they're gross never look quite perfect you know there's always 95% but they can never hit that 100% look. Could be from all the little items off gassing toxic phthalates.