Commercial Grows: good or bad?

[PazVerdeRadical]

It is not unusual to see negative comments about certain big grows that can be considered commercial, this happened ever since overgrow it would seem... but it is no easy subject to judge whether it is good or bad or whether it helps us towards legalization or not.

imho commercial grows, so long as they are done with a good quality standard, are a very good thing in many aspects expect for the prices

so many places of the world seem to be having very long lasting and more frequent of the infamous 'dry spells'. isn't over-growing all about making the herb abundant on the earth and slapping on the face all the authoritarian dark lords who promote criminalization. ?

seeing commercial grows like 'fuck the cops' grow by lou is inspiring. providing good outdoor organically grown nugs to the people who aren't able to grow; i think there is more than money that motivates the quality true commercial grower. so keep up the good work to all possible commercial growers out there, be safe everyone. much peace and light.

 

[Jam Master Jaco]

Well of course they're good. Those of us who can't grow have to buy. The weed needs to be grown somewhere.

The only times I would disagree with a commercial grow is if it is done solely for the purpose of profit. I mean, everyone needs to make their hustle doing something right? But if you're charging anything over 300 dollars for an ounce of grade A dank I feel that is way too pricey and you're just being a greedy asshat. Weed should have a flat price with the possiblity of going up maybe by 50 bucks an ounce every 5 years. But I've paid everywhere from cheap to ridiculously overpriced. Hell, this last time I had to pay 90 DOLLARS AN EIGHTH! Sure I could've told the guy to fuck off...but that means no weed for me.

I think what happens is there is the grower who sells to one or a few very confidential people at a low price...then those people turn around and start adding zeros to the price because it's easy money for them. God I can't stand that shit. Kharma kharma kharma.

*edit* I thought of another way commercial grows can turn out bad. I know some people that have dedicated their lives to growing cannibis. Good for them right? Wrong. Since it is illegal in the states if you are dedicating your life to it you need some way of making money. If you do not have a legal job that means the prices of your weed you have dedicated yourself to growing will fluctuate with your needs and wants of your life. You'll have to charge more on one crop because the last crop didn't yield so well. I'm sorry but I feel that is complete bullshit. Charge a flat price that can fluctuate every 5 years or so but don't go and "dedicate yourself to the cause" by making your buyers prices go on a roller coaster ride because you can't get your shit straight in your life (after calming down...lol...I realize that this could offend you if you're one of the honest people who have dedicated their lives to cannibis. If that's you, thank you and keep up with it. If you are my dealer reading this, I hope you'll charge me less next time )

*edit2* I think it should be the growers responsiblity to see to it that the weed they grew is sold at a reasonable price. It pisses me off to knowingly get ripped off by people who obviously don't grow and only sell.

 

[JJScorpio]

I have no problem with someone growing good bud and giving it to people for a real good price. What I do have a prob with is the people that grow hydro, sock the chemicals to it and pull it before it is ready. I also have a problem with people pushing it for 15 or 20 dollars a gram. Good quality bud for 175 or 200 dollars an ounce allows people to smoke without having to commit crimes to get the money for it. The people charging 300 to 500 dollars a ounce are only contributing to the problem. I have close friends that give me a hundred bucks a bag when I have extra and are glad to do so. The more good weed we can get into peoples hands at a cheap price only helps our cause. The ones charging 300 plus are only contributing to the problem....

 

[Allusive]

I have no problem with commercial grows, someone has to grow it. All the problems with them now stem from the fact that they aren't legal (at least the quality & unchecked profit).

 

[OzzBozz]

commercial grows= how i get my weed as i don't grow

 

[Guest]

the more the better

 

[robotwithdreams]

Last time I checked the world economic order was still capitalism. Everyone and everything bow to the mighty PROFIT, including pot and commercial grows.

 

[vonforne]

And wwith all farming, the market will rise and fall due to other economic factors. Cost of ferts, electricity, among others. And area is also a great factor in pricing. Where i live everything is expensive. When the building boom began we saw a steady rise in everything even though our wages never rose.

 

[Guest]

I believe in free-market capitalism, especially if the item in question is not a 'life need.' I understand that some users of cannabis do, in fact, -need- their cannabis, so this boundary isn't always that clean cut.

I think that medical needs should be free for anyone who can't afford them on their own. I've known of growers who functioned on that premise; giving weed to bonafide patients, while selling to recreational users at wholesale prices or lower. ;^>)

I think that the vast sums of $ in the weed industry is something that the feds and LEO like to point to; it draws them even moreso, perhaps out of jealousy. ;^>)

I also think that cold, hard, capitalism that doesn't take into account the human relationship and trust that takes place, is typically destined for violence or implosion, regardless of what the commodity is.

Conversely, what I refer to as 'capitalism with a soul,' that functions on honesty, trust, and mutual respect, is the best of all worlds.

No beef from my household re. commercial growers. As long as they grow a clean product, are honest in their additives and weights, and don't practice thievery of any kind..

There's making a living, and then there's greed.

moose eater

 

[Guest]

My grows are really not for profit, but I have tested many different strains and give out a lot of samples to close freinds.
These people will take my samples and turn around and sell them for 4-5 hundred an once and people still will be beating their doors down to get more. It just goes to show you the quality of most commercial grows is really poor, and you put some really decent weed out there and people are amazed, and will pay anything to get it.

 

[Guest]

allows people to smoke without having to commit crimes to get the money for it.

lol....got a problem? I'd hate to see what happens when you need a peice of ass

 

[supermanlives]

who cares why people grow. doing a grow for cash is no diff than your average farmer selling his veggies. except pot is illegal. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ anyone that risks their freedom to grow mj deserves to benefit from their work if they so choose.

 

[Haps]

To do a commercial crop - just one - you need a house for 6 months, hundreds of dollars for electricity & heat, hundred bucks or more for nutes, additives, meters. So, by the time you grow one crop, you have thousands of dollars of cash and time invested - thousands, of your own dollars. Notice I did not even charge for lights, bulbs, fans, filters, equipment, tools - but they cost a thousand or two also.

Then you hope - hope, your crop turns out, no borg, no leo, no mildew, and that you are healthy enough to do all the work yourself - can't tell anyone - ANYONE. Hope your genetics yeild enough - are you growing indicrap? Or a variety of sativa crosses for medicine grade flowers? Cut your yeild by a third if you are growing quality sativas. Do you harvest early so you can pay your bills - or do you flush and finish off world class flowers?

I figure I get Chinamans wages, maybe 20 cents an hour when I do a commercial grow. And every time you provide meds for anyone anywhere - you risk your life and liberty - ever been in slam? My little brother told me about a kid I used to babysit, robbed a local gas station went to jail, they raped him till his intestines fell out.

If ya ain't got the balls to grow, ye be lucky to buy herb at any price.
H

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

hello, ok, enjoying the way this thread is going

so we all seem to have some sort of ideal of what a good quality commercial grower is and also have some differences of opinions regarding the price issue. i was expecting dilema over this issue as it is no easy thing; good herb under the current legal issues of cannabis and if done indoors, prices go real up. if done outdoors guerrilla style, tons of hard physical work and lots of commitment to a good harvest, specially at harvest time when transporting the goods, etc...

i was just thinking how much work it would take, i only have a very few plants for personal use only, guerrilla style nowdays, and they are in a remote mountain area, i have to spend a whole day to go check on them, but they are worth it
i can understand why these guys with big outdoor grows just move into the grow site. i remember a real cool thread in og about this dude with other dudes doing a major grow outside inside some kind of canyon in the u.s. anyone else remember that, with pics and all?

there is also another danger besides cops when doing commercial grows, a friend and i discussed in pm how the competition can also mean serious trouble in case someone gets to know you are growing, a lot of trouble, fucking dick head criminalization creates so much wack shit.
phew, anyway,
one love.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

commercial grows done by good growers who care about the quality of what they sell and have integrity so that qualty is reflected in price are a good thing.....
Criminals looking on growing weed as another way to make big bucks, selling overferted fizzing crap that gives you a headache, and is usually chopped down 3 weeks early, due to looking in the wallet as a method of determining harvest time-these guys are a bad thing and i think ppl often forget that there is good and bad everywhere, most of us wouldnt have had our 1st smoke if there hadnt been a growers somewhere getting paid.........
Its my dream to make a living growing weed, but i like to think ill be one of the good guys if it ever were to happen

 

[IdntknowMarlbro]

this is acutally an interesting thought. One thing I wanna do is change the market. The market SUCKS. I am in the process of starting a commerical grow. I am very very lucky to find the perfect person who owns his own home. He doesnt know how to grow and doesnt have money. It should be a nice supply for my city, to stay.
Its been dry, and the only thing in town right now is beasters, besides shwag of course.
my objective is for people to beable to get better quailty buds for cheaper price. The price is something that will take time as the market changes. Not to mention that im a sativa guy and i hate how i cant get any sativas.
I hope more people look at it this way, and help me.
Once money is no concern, some of it will be going to donate to leaglize it.
In my lifetime, pot will be legal, and i will do everything in my power to accomplish this.
Im starting to get quite a bit of power!

 

[Guest]

this is acutally an interesting thought. One thing I wanna do is change the market. The market SUCKS. I am in the process of starting a commerical grow. I am very very lucky to find the perfect person who owns his own home. He doesnt know how to grow and doesnt have money. It should be a nice supply for my city, to stay.
Its been dry, and the only thing in town right now is beasters, besides shwag of course.
my objective is for people to beable to get better quailty buds for cheaper price. The price is something that will take time as the market changes. Not to mention that im a sativa guy and i hate how i cant get any sativas.
I hope more people look at it this way, and help me.
Once money is no concern, some of it will be going to donate to leaglize it.
In my lifetime, pot will be legal, and i will do everything in my power to accomplish this.
Im starting to get quite a bit of power!

i like the way you think.but your "building your house on sand" bro.....dont crumble. think out your plan for another year, and then do it. your town can wait.

I'll give you a hint. Ditch the friend and his house. or dont listen to me and be do wut u do.

 

[sackoweed]

<~ Tips his hat to all comercial growers.. Takes a big pair.. Ill stick to the personal stash grows.. peace..

sack

 

[Guest]

if money is your concern. you can still make a grip of cash growing personal while still working full time. shit each personal grow is about 1-10 oz thats 230- 2000. every few months not bad.

i wonder what drives a person to grow commercial? is it just the want of the american dream? trying to get out of the rat race? or do they just figure, what the fuck they got nothing to lose? imma guess all of the above.

 

[Guest]

i wonder what drives a person to grow commercial?