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Colorado MJ Law Problem coming up.

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onday, June 9, 2014

Lawsuit claims marijuana taxes violate Fifth Amendment - Attorney accuses Governor and Mayor of "Kingpin" violations

{Denver} -- Attorney Robert J. Corry, Jr. filed a lawsuit on June 9, 2014 in Denver District Court seeking to permanently end Colorado's marijuana taxes, on the grounds that payment of the taxes violates a citizen's Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, since marijuana remains illegal under federal law.

Corry also accuses Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper and Denver Mayor Michael Hancock of violating the federal "Kingpin" statute (aka, the federal law against operating a "continuing criminal enterprise") for collecting taxes and laundering money on a federally illegal substance.

The complaint was filed on behalf of an unnamed licensed medical and retail marijuana center, the "No Over Taxation" issue committee (which campaigned against Proposition AA, the marijuana tax issue approved by Colorado voters in 2013) and several individuals, including Kathleen Chippi, Larisa Bolivar, Miguel Lopez and William Chengelis.

Corry is seeking unspecified damages and a refund of all tax monies collected by the state.



If successful, Corry's lawsuit could be the basis for overturning ALL regulations regarding marijuana licensing and registration in Colorado on the same grounds. As long as marijuana remains illegal under federal law, states cannot require people to give any information about themselves in order to distribute or purchase marijuana. ANY and ALL requirements to identify oneself would result in a "real and appreciable" risk of self-incrimination, and would require a citizen to implicate himself in federal crimes.

Read more about the Fifth Amendment here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Corry cites a 1973 Colorado Supreme Court case (People vs. Duleff) that overturned a man's conviction for "selling marijuana without a license" because compliance with the licensing requirement would have required that person to violate his constitutional right against self-incrimination and reveal a violation of federal law. Corry writes, "The Colorado Supreme Court held specifically that the Fifth Amendment prohibits state licensing requirements that force a person to reveal a violation of federal law."

From the Duleff decision, Corry quotes the Colo. Sup. Ct.: "The Fifth Amendment prohibits licensing requirements from being used as a means of discovering past or present criminal activity which is subject to prosecution by calling attention to the licensee and his activities....There is no doubt that the information which Duleff would have been required to disclose would have been useful to the investigation of his activities, would have substantially increased the risk of prosecution, and may well have been a direct admission of guilt under federal law. The Fifth Amendment protects individuals from such compulsory, incriminating disclosures and provides a complete defense to prosecution." -- Colorado Supreme Court (1973)

Corry also cites a 1969 US Supreme Court case (Timothy Leary v. United States) in which the highest court in the country overturned Leary's marijuana possession conviction and ruled that the federal Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 was illegal, due to the fact that a person seeking a tax stamp and complying with the law would be forced to incriminate himself, in violation of the Fifth Amendment.

Corry writes, "Marijuana-specific taxes require plaintiffs and any other person paying said taxes to incriminate themselves as committing multiple
violations of federal law, including but not limited to, participating in, aiding and abetting, or conspiring to commit a 'continuing criminal enterprise' and 'money laundering.' These illegally-collected taxes are ultimately laundered by the State of Colorado through J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, which also participates knowingly in the continuing criminal enterprise." Item 67, Corry complaint filed 6/9/14.

Corry concludes, "It is illegal for government to retain tax monies illegally collected in violation of the constitution, so all amounts must be returned, and all records related to previous tax payments, destroyed."

Corry asks the Court to:

"Enter a temporary restraining order, preliminary injunction, and/or permanent injunction ordering the Defendants, and all those acting in concert with them, to cease and desist from enforcement of the marijuana tax statutes, to cease and desist from any further collection, deposit, or laundering of the marijuana taxes, for a full refund of marijuana tax monies paid by any person or entity, and for destruction of all tax records and identifying information after full refunds are made."

"The state can't have it both ways. If it's illegal under federal law, you cannot collect taxes on it," says Kathleen Chippi, a plaintiff and member of the Patient and Caregiver Rights Litigation Project. "We have another case pending in the Colorado Supreme Court now, Coats v. Dish Network, where Colorado Attorney General John Suthers argues that medical marijuana patients can be fired from their jobs for using medical marijuana off-duty, even though it is legal under state law. Suthers argues in the Coats case that, since marijuana is still illegal under federal law, patients have no rights."

"Yet Suthers and Hickenlooper, as kingpins in their continuing criminal enterprise, happily collect and spend the marijuana taxes, even though they
were collected in spite of multiple clear violations of federal law," Chippi concludes.

Read Boulder Weekly article on Federal Preemption issues and the Coats v. Dish Lawsuit (5/22/14):
http://www.boulderweekly.com/article-12900-local-attorney-argues-fed-laws-donrst-apply-to-mmj.html
 

DonCarlos

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very very sneaky. seems like the precedents he is trying to use will hold up, I'm no lawyer though. Interested to see how this goes.

I know California isn't going to be legalizing this year, as the MCLR Act wont be making it to the ballot. Good thing perhaps, seeing as CO regulations might get upended.
 

dddaver

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The federal government really needs to shit already and get off the pot, literally. They could easily fix all this crazy shit in one fell swoop.

But no, now here's another fucked up mess of their making. What the hell is the matter with those Washington creeps? What do they need to see?

Do not vote for ANY incumbent, ever.
 
Because the Bible Belt is thick around here.

Takes time for this change to finally sink in. Prohibition is ending.

States are painfully slow bureaucracies like government that take forever sometimes... Unless you got smart Coloradaian running the house. All these other states need the Colorado "How To Quickly Tax the Cannibus Market forever stateside guide" available in the library of congress.

Keep pushing your local representative.
 

stoned-trout

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good for him....hope he wins but I highly doubt it...cant have it both ways ..its legal or it aint......fuck the feds
 

Jhhnn

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Meh. It's bullshit lawsuit, anyway. Licensed retailers incriminate themselves at the federal level by being in business at all while consumers can just pay cash, avoid all of that. Retail shops don't do any more than look at your ID, just like the liquor store. It's pro forma. If you're obviously old enough, they're only checking to see if you're a state resident to satisfy the 1 oz vs 1/4 oz purchase limit.

I rarely buy pot, but the last time I did, the guy barely glanced at my ID. At 65, I'm obviously old enough & I was only buying an eighth. They only do it to protect themselves from sting operations.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...ts-argue-pot-taxes-violate-self-incrimination
 
I cannot wait for law school.
This suit sounds like some really good stuff and I'm looking forward to reading more about it.

Anyway I don't think rescheduling is as easy as some might want. The Single Convention on narcotic drugs and all that, it's a big legal mess
 

Jhhnn

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I cannot wait for law school.
This suit sounds like some really good stuff and I'm looking forward to reading more about it.

Anyway I don't think rescheduling is as easy as some might want. The Single Convention on narcotic drugs and all that, it's a big legal mess

The only reason the Single Convention exists is that the US used carrots & sticks to get everybody else to go along.

We can renounce any or all of it at will. It's not like anybody will invade us.
 
The only reason the Single Convention exists is that the US used carrots & sticks to get everybody else to go along.

We can renounce any or all of it at will. It's not like anybody will invade us.

Yeah I know little of it other than it has something to do with this cannabis legalization stuff, at least it seems as though it would. I was going to read up on it but it's a beautiful day out and the fair is going on. :dance013:
I "feel" like it's not as easy as you say, but I have much reading to do.
 
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