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Colorado Growers Thread
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I expect it's cheap enough at the field that most of us probalby wouldn't be doing much growing.
Let's see: Corn is at $8/bushel?
A 70# bale of weed? lol Lots of seeds and stems though.
Maximo
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my bad!
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Might touchy, aren't we? Of course growing in a OMG Illegal state, would probably make most of us a bit jumpy?
I don't expect you'd vote for legalization either, right?
By the way. It doesn't cost much to be civil.
JointOperation
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AGREED.. im sorry some feel that it should be cheaper.. but if you want cheap weed.. buy swag.. and BE HAPPY WITH WHAT U GET FOR THE PRICE.. because GOOD WEED takes more work then most seem to think or believe.. and growing good quality in a large setting.. over 10-15 lights.. is a full time job.. and costs lots on equipment and electricity.. and nutes.. so a GOOD PRODUCT thats not full of pesticides.. or that has been grown an flushed properly.. and trimmed and cured properly.. is going to be more expensive..
the People who say this usually are highschool kids.. who dont wana work or do anything.. and wana smoke the best weed they can find.. and then bitch about the prices.. comeon man.. theres an entire BLACK MARKET.. from Mexican Brick.. all the way to Indoor Hydro Heady Nugs.. just like WINE and FOOD. and any other item that has a demand.. you have your cheap shit.. and your quality shit.. its VERY SIMPLE.. you get what u pay for.. its life DEAL WITH IT .
JointOperation
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its different when you grow somewere that its a slap on the wrist and you lose a harvest and equipment and some fines and such.. but when u live places.. were u go to jail .. and LOSE EVERYTHING.. ya if you want a cheaper and less quality product.. then go elsewere.. people that grow a few pounds every few months cant afford to grow.. and then sell it for what they grow it for... its just not worth the risk.. not many people who grow.. have these HUGE 20-200 Light operations going on.. lol.. getting an operation that size takes a large investment.. time building.. and lots of crazyyy jail time if caught federally.
whats up with the rudeness Maximo? is that even still the same Maximo? one can make a point without all the insults, you always used to have that ability, what happened?
Maximo
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You think I was being rude?, but ahhh nothings happened gaius, yeah its probably over the top, but I'm still the same old Max you all have come to love and adore lol, its just the crying about price from no loads who do nothing to risk anything in there lives, they don't get it and I can be very forceful if I feel thats what I need to do to get my point across or shut someone up, maybe its my american attitude and disgust with my country going to pot, (no pun intended), legal pot is "not" going to make this country better I believe, the med people who "really" need it will always find a way to get there meds, but most are riding those coattails yelling meds, when all they really want is free/legal pot not meds for themselves, thats our impression of others where I live. I guess most think/assume I'm liberal but I'm a short haired no tattoos conservative republican my whole life and as a multiple decades old grower I don't like the way things are going in america. thats the short answer I guess, so to those who want to know why I'm coming to denver its for new plant stock and a job interview to run a large grow-op in colorado, not the HTCC which I will attend but thats not my reason for coming to Denver.
Keep it Hashy my friends
Sir Maximo von Bubble
Keep it Hashy my friends
Sir Maximo von Bubble
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As the late, great Colonel Sanders once said, "I'm too drunk... to taste this chicken."
Heh. Internet tough guy. How quaint. I'd submit that if you could make the same money for the same amount of work doing something legal, you would be. Otherwise, the risk isn't worth it. You're not doing it out of the goodness of your heart, and legalization obviously threatens your lifestyle.
Which makes you, I think, the crybaby.
Who's the stoned out lazy dustbag who can't get a straight job? Me? I worked a blue collar union job for 37 years, retired in December. Dealt with mandatory drug testing for the last 20. I'm not complaining, either.
Things change, this time for the better for millions of people who aren't you. Might want to make some plans to change along with the times, yourself.
You're coming to CO to help us celebrate the victory of legalization? Given your attitude, I'm not sure why you would.
Oh, wait... you're coming to try to sell out your outlaw ideals, go to work for the Corporate America in a legal grow-op, which you profess to hate. My oh my.
i don't know, just seems to me a very different posting style to what i remember....
anyway for the sake of this thread, please both of you keep the personal arguments to pms and lets keep things here civil.
anyway for the sake of this thread, please both of you keep the personal arguments to pms and lets keep things here civil.
It's tough to be 'inspired' by posts like your original Max.
In my mind (small as it may be), Amendment 64s survival and the success of the Cannabis industry statewide as well as Nationwide, is dependent on the public perception of same. If we can present an almost business like image. We will succeed.
Which is why I get very concerned when gnarly posts get put up.
As to the 'value' of the product? That too, is perception. If it's illegal to grow then you have additional 'value?' to justify the grow. If you grow (for a living), and you don't set aside for retirement. You are just asking to end up broke and poor.
Not looking to debate motives etc., or even needs. If it's not grown here it will be grown elsewhere.
So to you Max, I'd simply ask for a whole bunch of consideration of the above, especially since you are looking to become 'legit'. I wish you all the best in your employment endeavors. Not sure how you're going to handle 'residency' stipulations. Hell, I'm not even sure they exist. lol
So good luck, and be mellow.
It's part of the job description, I'm thinking.
In my mind (small as it may be), Amendment 64s survival and the success of the Cannabis industry statewide as well as Nationwide, is dependent on the public perception of same. If we can present an almost business like image. We will succeed.
Which is why I get very concerned when gnarly posts get put up.
As to the 'value' of the product? That too, is perception. If it's illegal to grow then you have additional 'value?' to justify the grow. If you grow (for a living), and you don't set aside for retirement. You are just asking to end up broke and poor.
Not looking to debate motives etc., or even needs. If it's not grown here it will be grown elsewhere.
So to you Max, I'd simply ask for a whole bunch of consideration of the above, especially since you are looking to become 'legit'. I wish you all the best in your employment endeavors. Not sure how you're going to handle 'residency' stipulations. Hell, I'm not even sure they exist. lol
So good luck, and be mellow.
It's part of the job description, I'm thinking.
I feel I should explain my part in all this.
As a 'recreational' user (I don't even have a red card), what you charge for your product is irrelevant to me.
I grow for myself, and family, so i'm certainly not involved in trying to make a living from growing. I've been retired for a while now, and haven't missed the office one little bit.
Max; I do hope Colorado will make an 'honest' grower out of you, and keep you far from filtered sunlight. Hate bars, grills, and such!
As a 'recreational' user (I don't even have a red card), what you charge for your product is irrelevant to me.
I grow for myself, and family, so i'm certainly not involved in trying to make a living from growing. I've been retired for a while now, and haven't missed the office one little bit.
Max; I do hope Colorado will make an 'honest' grower out of you, and keep you far from filtered sunlight. Hate bars, grills, and such!
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That girl needed an overcoat! She's frosty all over.
Can't find a drooling 'smiley face'. Bummer.
I got my card, and provide what I can to sate my habit... first off... without previous established residency required to participate, your "job offer" is pointless... you are not eligible...
second, much in the same way that gasoline is kept at an inflated rate... illegality does increase price... it restricts supply allowing exorbitant ridiculous pricing from those greedy enough to try to achieve top dollar from midgrade production... which is becoming more commonplace as money minded individuals attempt to flock here to try to cash in as much as possible before monshito lobbies the state senate to become the only game in town...
second, much in the same way that gasoline is kept at an inflated rate... illegality does increase price... it restricts supply allowing exorbitant ridiculous pricing from those greedy enough to try to achieve top dollar from midgrade production... which is becoming more commonplace as money minded individuals attempt to flock here to try to cash in as much as possible before monshito lobbies the state senate to become the only game in town...
I don't think that lobbying will do them any good, Seaf0ur. The structure of A64 won't allow for monopoly, nor for legal providers to be muscled out by anything other than market forces- price, quality, convenience.
It'll end up a lot like everything else. Just because the produce from my garden is better than what I can buy doesn't mean that what comes from the supermarket isn't good. Just because I can buy cheap beer doesn't mean that I can't buy 12 year old single malt, or that the single malt doesn't come from corporate distilleries.
Just being able to grow our own in peace puts most of those concerns far, far away. It'd be great if I could sample other growers' wares at farmers' markets & the like, but it'll be a long time before that happens, if ever. Not in my lifetime, anyway. Anything that passes between personal growers has to be for free, and I think we can live with that.
With A64 & a little passive help from the Obama Admin, we're setting the stage for a lot more legalization in a lot of other places. Anybody who ever supported prohibition will end up eating their words as we quietly reveal the truth. Our opportunity is unique, our responsibility to the community bigger than we imagine. I don't think getting that right will be hard at all.
It'll end up a lot like everything else. Just because the produce from my garden is better than what I can buy doesn't mean that what comes from the supermarket isn't good. Just because I can buy cheap beer doesn't mean that I can't buy 12 year old single malt, or that the single malt doesn't come from corporate distilleries.
Just being able to grow our own in peace puts most of those concerns far, far away. It'd be great if I could sample other growers' wares at farmers' markets & the like, but it'll be a long time before that happens, if ever. Not in my lifetime, anyway. Anything that passes between personal growers has to be for free, and I think we can live with that.
With A64 & a little passive help from the Obama Admin, we're setting the stage for a lot more legalization in a lot of other places. Anybody who ever supported prohibition will end up eating their words as we quietly reveal the truth. Our opportunity is unique, our responsibility to the community bigger than we imagine. I don't think getting that right will be hard at all.
JointOperation
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legalization threatens alot of growers lifestyles.. even alot of medical growers that are legal.. are selling product to people who arent medical.. and not to mention.. if it goes legal.. medical prices will drop dramatically.. so its not just the people who are growing illegally that are at risk.. its alot of growers in general.. once it goes legal.. big business men that have millions to invest will open up shop EVERYWERE.. doing huge WAREHOUSE GROWS.. paying 500 for a CUT of the best clone around.. and loading there entire operations with it and pumping out lots of LBS..
i think its funny when you legal folks say its threatening OUR LIFESTYLE.. because it threatens yours JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE.. because all those people who are on the fence with the risky part of the business will have no more risk .. and will hop right in. like the next gold rush. and alot of the med growers running under 20 bulb rooms.. will be FIGHTING to stay up and running..
because no matter how hard u try to hoard a strain.. there will be some ASSHOLE out there that will say fuck it . and sell a single clone to 10 people and make 5 GRAND off 10 clones.. and then it will be everywere all over again.
so unless people especially smaller growers.. STICK TOGETHER and maybe join forces some how.. id say a good 70% of GROWERS in GENERAL .. will be struggling to make money. and once u find that your not making as much as before.. and profits take a drop.. and then u start to slack because your not making lots of cash.. then you end up done.. and selling your equipment on ebay.
it sucks EITHER WAY.. when illegal its stressful.. and alot more risky.. and when legal.. you lose business to big corporations who are willing to open up the 20 100 light warehouses.. and pull 200 pounds per warehouse every 3-4 months..
the thing is . most warehouse grows.. quality isnt the best in the world.. so the growers who only grow quality nugs will be able to stay in business.. but only if they change there thinking.. no more growing 1 or 2 kinds.. no more only having bud.. you kinda gotta go more into a business mentality like.. having 5-10 kinds of bud.. from low grade to high grade.. having a few different bhos.. and some dry sifts and bubble hashes.. have tictures and edibles.. .. you will need to stand out alot more then you need to at this point and time.. in order to compete with dispensaries and shit.. the only good thing we have on our side with the medical thing is . there are people who dont want anyone to know they grow or smoke. or sell. so they dont wana get a med card.. or be put on a list that the gov can discriminate against... because it happens.. and they know it happens.. they know the feds like that people are putting targets on there backs just to grow some buds or smoke.
lol well you guys in COLORADO are fucking lucky.. me and the girlfriend wana take a vacation down there to go snowboarding.. and check out the scene see if its what we are looking for .. looking for a nice place to move.. so we are thinking we will take a RoadTrip down to CO from NY. and stop at a few diff places along the way.. and see if we like it for Living lol..
me i wana go to CO. because my friends all moved there a few years back.. and they all love it there. my boy said hes got me a job.. remodeling houses .. and the GF has a job cleaning the houses after we are done working.. so.. as long as we like the people and the way of life down there.. we are coming on down.. lol.. iuno tho.. because up here in the northeast.. its alot different .. all my friends say we will like it.. so hopefully the GF says its a go lol..
i just cant wait to see what kinda genetics we are working with down there. lol..
i think its funny when you legal folks say its threatening OUR LIFESTYLE.. because it threatens yours JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE.. because all those people who are on the fence with the risky part of the business will have no more risk .. and will hop right in. like the next gold rush. and alot of the med growers running under 20 bulb rooms.. will be FIGHTING to stay up and running..
because no matter how hard u try to hoard a strain.. there will be some ASSHOLE out there that will say fuck it . and sell a single clone to 10 people and make 5 GRAND off 10 clones.. and then it will be everywere all over again.
so unless people especially smaller growers.. STICK TOGETHER and maybe join forces some how.. id say a good 70% of GROWERS in GENERAL .. will be struggling to make money. and once u find that your not making as much as before.. and profits take a drop.. and then u start to slack because your not making lots of cash.. then you end up done.. and selling your equipment on ebay.
it sucks EITHER WAY.. when illegal its stressful.. and alot more risky.. and when legal.. you lose business to big corporations who are willing to open up the 20 100 light warehouses.. and pull 200 pounds per warehouse every 3-4 months..
the thing is . most warehouse grows.. quality isnt the best in the world.. so the growers who only grow quality nugs will be able to stay in business.. but only if they change there thinking.. no more growing 1 or 2 kinds.. no more only having bud.. you kinda gotta go more into a business mentality like.. having 5-10 kinds of bud.. from low grade to high grade.. having a few different bhos.. and some dry sifts and bubble hashes.. have tictures and edibles.. .. you will need to stand out alot more then you need to at this point and time.. in order to compete with dispensaries and shit.. the only good thing we have on our side with the medical thing is . there are people who dont want anyone to know they grow or smoke. or sell. so they dont wana get a med card.. or be put on a list that the gov can discriminate against... because it happens.. and they know it happens.. they know the feds like that people are putting targets on there backs just to grow some buds or smoke.
lol well you guys in COLORADO are fucking lucky.. me and the girlfriend wana take a vacation down there to go snowboarding.. and check out the scene see if its what we are looking for .. looking for a nice place to move.. so we are thinking we will take a RoadTrip down to CO from NY. and stop at a few diff places along the way.. and see if we like it for Living lol..
me i wana go to CO. because my friends all moved there a few years back.. and they all love it there. my boy said hes got me a job.. remodeling houses .. and the GF has a job cleaning the houses after we are done working.. so.. as long as we like the people and the way of life down there.. we are coming on down.. lol.. iuno tho.. because up here in the northeast.. its alot different .. all my friends say we will like it.. so hopefully the GF says its a go lol..
i just cant wait to see what kinda genetics we are working with down there. lol..
As much as I would like to agree that Maximo's residency status will limit him from participating in our CO mmj industry. It is just not correct. Maximo can get a support or even key badge without being a resident at all. Only restriction would be an associated key aka owner. 2 yr residency requirement there.
Lesterburnum
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have you guys heard the crackdown coming on caregivers plant counts? Was published in denverpost.com last friday I think.
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