cococoir and cocopeat same ?

[charlesweedmore]

are cococoir and cocopeat same thing ?

 

[dirkdaddy]

yep

 

[charlesweedmore]

thanks

 

[Divine Cosmos]

Not really: Coir is the outside layer of husk that surrounds the shell of the coconut. It consists mainly of fibres, which have traditionally been used to manufacture rope, carpets, doormats, upholstery stuffing, brushes etc. Between these fibres is the corky substance called coir pith or coir dust, which has recently been widely recognised as the superior growing medium in which to grow tomatoes, roses and many other crops. The horticulture industry often calls this substrate coco-peat (or cocopeat) or coir-peat. Sometimes it is known by similar sounding brand names.

 

[tokinsmokin]

It seems there are a bunch of shops that don't know the difference between peat and coir. The way they package this stuff looks like coir and peat are the same. Although from my understanding years ago there are three different kinds of Coco. Which is determined by how fine the coco is. There is Coco Pith, Coco Coir, and Coco Croutons or Chips. Peat is most like Pith from what I have learned and is the finest type of Coco. According to Empire Organics who I would trust say that their Coco Peat is 60% Coco Pith and 40% Coco Coir.

http://www.empireorganics.com/home.html

 

[madb]

Sorry not trying to hijack the thread here but is 100% coco coir more favourable over coco peat? The reason I ask is i am only available to get coco peat here locally and coco coir i would have to buy online. The local cocopeat is of sri lankin origin and my seedlings look a little yellow and i am trying to pinpoint the origin of the problem.

madb

 

[tokinsmokin]

It depends on how often you want to water your plants. Personally I've used straight coco pith for the past few grows and it holds more water than I would like. My next grow I'm going to use the Empire Organics Coco Peat, which is a mix of 60% pith and 40% coir. This shouldn't hold as much water and will allow for more frequent waterings. Eventually I'm going to do E&F with Coco and will use Coco chips, which will drain much quicker than pith or peat.

 

[madb]

Thanks, i think on my next run i will rinse it heavily to wash out any salt, and any uncertainty.

 

[tokinsmokin]

Thats a good idea. Some people have complained that there are salts left in the Coco and caused lockout. I would agree and I think a while ago I ran into the same problem.

 

[been]

coco-peat > coco-coir > coco-husk

I hand-water.

 

[mellovision]

if you're talking empire organics coco line, a picture is worth a thousand words......btw, there peat is 100% coco ( and the stuff you want )

 

[tokinsmokin]

if you're talking empire organics coco line, a picture is worth a thousand words......btw, there peat is 100% coco ( and the stuff you want )

Yes pictures are worth a thousand words, thank you. No kidding their peat is 100% coco. All 3 of those pictures are 100% coco. Although of course you didn't read my posts because we're not talking about just coco but the different kinds of coco and you know what you posted pictures of 3 different kinds of coco (pith, coir, and chips). And no peat isn't the only one you would want hence thats why they sell 3 different kinds. Different coco types for different growing needs.

 

[mellovision]

Yes pictures are worth a thousand words, thank you. No kidding their peat is 100% coco. All 3 of those pictures are 100% coco. Although of course you didn't read my posts because we're not talking about just coco but the different kinds of coco and you know what you posted pictures of 3 different kinds of coco (pith, coir, and chips). And no peat isn't the only one you would want hence thats why they sell 3 different kinds. Different coco types for different growing needs.

wasn't even talking to you homes...was responding to the guy who started the thread and asked the question..................................