Coco wet or dry
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Beaucephus
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Never dry, i don’t water enough for run off as seedlings or after transplant for couple days though.
What is dry?
That sounds an odd question, but dry isn't like a brick you rehydrate. Dry is the state it comes in sacks. Be it coco or compost, we buy it in the state known as dry. Even though it's damp by laundry standards.
They would sell it drier if they could, and save on transport costs. But any drier and you risk irreparable fixation. Death of microlife. Damage to root hairs. The list goes on.
Only the best of plants wants watering to runoff on the day it's potted up. You know what it's been drinking each day before, so that will be enough. Little more. But you do want some run-off as soon as you can, because only then is the substrate really yours. So don't jump to huge tubs, or your stuck with what was supplied, or soaking them too early, leading to oxygen problems.
That sounds an odd question, but dry isn't like a brick you rehydrate. Dry is the state it comes in sacks. Be it coco or compost, we buy it in the state known as dry. Even though it's damp by laundry standards.
They would sell it drier if they could, and save on transport costs. But any drier and you risk irreparable fixation. Death of microlife. Damage to root hairs. The list goes on.
Only the best of plants wants watering to runoff on the day it's potted up. You know what it's been drinking each day before, so that will be enough. Little more. But you do want some run-off as soon as you can, because only then is the substrate really yours. So don't jump to huge tubs, or your stuck with what was supplied, or soaking them too early, leading to oxygen problems.
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So what do U do when your are having a zzzzzzzzzz? EWver think you are over watering?
whotoyoufor
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Hi....I’ve grown in coco a lot and agree pretty much with most of hundredgramoz thread which is the top sticky in this section.... ‘few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW’
When building a root system it’s good to get the roots to go searching for food, so ‘wet and dry cycles’ help with this....but the dry part doesn’t mean bone dry....just the top layer had dried out etc....you will get a feel for it over time....
Eventually you will have a root system that will take as much as you throw at it....honestly....
Please read that thread....I just wanna paste it here....it’s spot on
When building a root system it’s good to get the roots to go searching for food, so ‘wet and dry cycles’ help with this....but the dry part doesn’t mean bone dry....just the top layer had dried out etc....you will get a feel for it over time....
Eventually you will have a root system that will take as much as you throw at it....honestly....
Please read that thread....I just wanna paste it here....it’s spot on
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+1 that thereHi....I’ve grown in coco a lot and agree pretty much with most of hundredgramoz thread which is the top sticky in this section.... ‘few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW’
When building a root system it’s good to get the roots to go searching for food, so ‘wet and dry cycles’ help with this....but the dry part doesn’t mean bone dry....just the top layer had dried out etc....you will get a feel for it over time....
Eventually you will have a root system that will take as much as you throw at it....honestly....
Please read that thread....I just wanna paste it here....it’s spot on
THANK YOU for posting this. I use the same exact methodology, been preaching it for years. Have gotten into so many debates about it that I just plain gave up trying to help people.
Well over a decade growing in coco has showed me that thee single biggest reason for rooting issues in coco arises from the coco being kept too wet.
been growing in coco for 10 years now too, you are absolutely right. over watering in coco is the fastest way to root problems. I don't even debate this shit anymore.
GeraldsFinest
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Could be the issue I’m having. I’m watering twice a day in coco with 2 gal containers. The root systems is strong enough to where I can lift the plant right out of the pot and it’s not going anywhere. Anyway I have some deficiencies going on at the moment. I was doing one water a day but everyone says oh water at least twice a day to keep runoff in line. I’m so confused now I almost wish forums didn’t exist so I could just grow the damn shit and find out for myself what is likes.
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pongster
hello brother, maybe that's your issue of decision making and not the internet's. you are the king of your crop, the internet is just voices.
my short experience:
small plants and one watering per day or even less = bliss
small plants and multiple waterings = rotten/asphyxiated roots
big plants and one watering per day = dry coco - ec spike - ph problems
big plants and multiple waterings = big muscles
oh, and use drip clean.
best regards,
I’m assuming you’ve already tried it but a thorough flush fixes many issues in coco DTW ime
First post in years, looks like I may be able to offer what works for me.
I have been running coco over perlite multifeed DTW 25l Hempy buckets for years. I did start with 50/50 coco/perlite over perlite which helped a huge amount with drainage. Yes you can drown plants in cop, quite Call the change to 100% coco over perlite a Level Up if you will.
A couple of my rules of thumb with coco:
When in doubt, flush it out - measuring runoff pH and ppms shows you where the problem is. Drain PROPERLY until dripping slows.
Keep coco wetter rather than drier - the colour difference between wet and dry coco is significant enough to tell. Lift your pots to feel the weight of the amount of moisture in the root zone.
As for feeding, nothing during lights off and the last at least 30 minutes of lights on.
Determine feeding intervals by feeding until at least 10% runoff. Measure the amount of time it takes from the pump switching on until you see runoff. That is your pump on timing. Set timer accordingly. Then measure the amount of time it takes for the runoff to stop. That is your pump off timing. Set timer accordingly.
I hope this helps, if I have caused any confusion feel free to ask me to clarify.
I have been running coco over perlite multifeed DTW 25l Hempy buckets for years. I did start with 50/50 coco/perlite over perlite which helped a huge amount with drainage. Yes you can drown plants in cop, quite Call the change to 100% coco over perlite a Level Up if you will.
A couple of my rules of thumb with coco:
When in doubt, flush it out - measuring runoff pH and ppms shows you where the problem is. Drain PROPERLY until dripping slows.
Keep coco wetter rather than drier - the colour difference between wet and dry coco is significant enough to tell. Lift your pots to feel the weight of the amount of moisture in the root zone.
As for feeding, nothing during lights off and the last at least 30 minutes of lights on.
Determine feeding intervals by feeding until at least 10% runoff. Measure the amount of time it takes from the pump switching on until you see runoff. That is your pump on timing. Set timer accordingly. Then measure the amount of time it takes for the runoff to stop. That is your pump off timing. Set timer accordingly.
I hope this helps, if I have caused any confusion feel free to ask me to clarify.
