Coco Hempy style.

[grassott's dad]

Vegging loads of plants in a bath tub full of coke bottles aint they way I'd veg my plants.

Matt, if you could invest in a few bits of wood and that plastic sheeting (black on one side n white the other) construct a cab, say 3ft x 3ft x 6ft, intake n out take fan (this is important, especially if constructed in the bathroom) and veg up fewer plants with tlc and lst, then you'll be laughing.

*EDIT: Please don't tell me that you still use the bathroom where you're growing the plants???

 

[RetroGrow]

No ph meter bro. Honestly have not had a hundred bucks laying around and I Just don't see that I would use it very often. The more I develop into hydro the more I will consider one. I flush the Coco out thoroughly but from what I've seen doesn't look like it was enough. But I often have this yellowing at transplant stage and things take off in about a week when roots hit the rez. No signs of burn on any leafs. Any other recommendation if I don't have a PH meter?

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You won't use it that often? You should never water/feed without it. You must use it EVERY time.
Get a PH meter. Beg, borrow or steal it. I can see at a glance that your PH is off. That's why plants are strecthy and spindly with weak stems, yellowing leaves, etc. Knowing your PH is not an optional thing. You MUST know your PH, or you are just spinning your wheels. The cost of a PH meter = one quarter ounce of bud, which you will get ten times over if you PH correctly. At least get the PH strips/drops. Cost : $5.
Otherwise you are looking at stunted plants that won't yield a damn. Flush those plants with RO water, and you will see improvement. Then start over with PH pen/meter/drops/strips, and feed properly PH'd nutes.
Growing 101......Gotta know exact PH.

 

[thewhitelotus]

So my roots have finally hit the resy in my hempy beercups (potting up shortly). I took 4 rooted clones and put 2 in soil and 2 in coco hempys.

Its been a few weeks now and the soil clones are almost twice the size of the coco clones.....all have new growth, but it seems like the soil clones are taking off much faster than the others.

Ive been filling the resy every other day, as thats when it seems to be empty. ive been tilting the cup almost completely sideways to ensure that the resy is empty then fill till a little runoff. Am i doing anything wrong....i was expecting the hempy clones to be taking off much more than the soil. im curious if im overwatering or what.

thanks

 

[johnnyrotten]

Re: Coco Hempy style.

I found the hempy bucket grew very similar to coco smart pots but I found they required less liquid...

 

[mattkilla420]

You won't use it that often? You should never water/feed without it. You must use it EVERY time.
Get a PH meter. Beg, borrow or steal it. I can see at a glance that your PH is off. That's why plants are strecthy and spindly with weak stems, yellowing leaves, etc. Knowing your PH is not an optional thing. You MUST know your PH, or you are just spinning your wheels. The cost of a PH meter = one quarter ounce of bud, which you will get ten times over if you PH correctly. At least get the PH strips/drops. Cost : $5.
Otherwise you are looking at stunted plants that won't yield a damn. Flush those plants with RO water, and you will see improvement. Then start over with PH pen/meter/drops/strips, and feed properly PH'd nutes.
Growing 101......Gotta know exact PH.

oh i was seriously distorted when i read that reply earlier. I thought you were talking about an EC meter. I use test drops on the regular and have since i started. I have hard water that comes out of the tap at 6.0. after i add 5-6 g of maxi and 5 ml of pro -silicate i hit 5.8- 6.0 everytime. Im almost sure i didnt flush tho coco well enough to begin. I flushed it with water and the b-1 red mixture technaflora makes. Its a rockwool/etc flush solution , so i thought it would work.

Vegging loads of plants in a bath tub full of coke bottles aint they way I'd veg my plants.

Matt, if you could invest in a few bits of wood and that plastic sheeting (black on one side n white the other) construct a cab, say 3ft x 3ft x 6ft, intake n out take fan (this is important, especially if constructed in the bathroom) and veg up fewer plants with tlc and lst, then you'll be laughing.

*EDIT: Please don't tell me that you still use the bathroom where you're growing the plants???

yea man i know all about DIY cabs and would love to have the time/money to make one. Right now this is the spot available and I am making things work for us. Yea those pics were just taken and we veg all up in da rub a dub tub. Final product is still some of the nicest herbs around here.Different strokes for different folks but i kno you have heard that before. Im all about LST and topping to create some big time yielders. Would love to get some DIY going.

edit*- I wasnt really looking for people to pick apart my room or grow or anything. Was just looking to be a part of the community like everyone else and post my experience that is to come with coco. love & happiness man.

 

[grassott's dad]

Hi Matt. I didn't mean to sound picky with your garden. I just spotted a coupla observations about your grow space that you posted in this thread, but hey man, your grow, your plants, you know best.

@whitelotus: I've done the side by sides mate and small regular pots will out do mini hempy cups all the time.

If you really wanna do a side by side, try a 1gal of soil v 1gal HB one of these days and let us know how you get on.

 

[thewhitelotus]

Hi Matt. I didn't mean to sound picky with your garden. I just spotted a coupla observations about your grow space that you posted in this thread, but hey man, your grow, your plants, you know best.

@whitelotus: I've done the side by sides mate and small regular pots will out do mini hempy cups all the time.

If you really wanna do a side by side, try a 1gal of soil v 1gal HB one of these days and let us know how you get on.

Good to know! I will be transplanting into 2 gal hempy buckets this evening. Rez is filled with Hydroton and then the rest is 85/15 Bcuzz coco to perlite.

These clones are from a mother about 4 weeks into flowering and i can already tell the branching is going to be insane....which i want because im giving a 250w scrog setup a go! Have about 2-3 weeks before chopping my lady in soil thats under the 250 now

 

[RetroGrow]

I found the hempy bucket grew very similar to coco smart pots but I found they required less liquid...

Actually, Hempy buckets with coco will blow away smart pots if done properly. Hemby buckets are a hydro medium, and should be watered every day to run off for maximum growth. Fresh solution daily, or continuously with drip rings, brings fresh oxygen, which brings explosive growth. Smart pots evaporate lots of liquid through holes. There is no benefit of smart pots over Hempy buckets. Quite the opposite. Also, much cheaper. Anyone want to buy some smart pots cheap?

 

[johnnyrotten]

Re: Coco Hempy style.

I did water both the smart pots and hempy buckets to runoff everyday when I was using them...

Right now I've got a ppk grow going which is like a modified hempy with top feeding... and some in organic soil, which is a totally different direction and gets watered completely differently...

 

[grassott's dad]

This is practically one plant. 3gal coco hempy...

 

[mattkilla420]

These are far from what they looked a week ago.
NOW

a week ago

finding that the growth in these things is Unbelievable!

 

[thewhitelotus]

just wanted to shoot a quick update. the 2 ladies are in 2gal hempy buckets with a 80/20 bcuzz coco/perlite mix. Watering till runoff everyother day with full strength dynagro.

I was curious when I would start to see deficiencies....more specifically cal/mag. Im using tap water that has the following in mg/L which im told is ppm

Alkalinity, Total* 44.0
Hardness* 28.0
Calcium* 7.4
Magnesium 2.3


Can i expect to see any calmag issues with the amt of calcium and magnesium in my tap coupled with Dynagro Foliage Pro (veg) and Bloom (flower)

thanks guys!

 

[RetroGrow]

just wanted to shoot a quick update. the 2 ladies are in 2gal hempy buckets with a 80/20 bcuzz coco/perlite mix. Watering till runoff everyother day with full strength dynagro.

I was curious when I would start to see deficiencies....more specifically cal/mag. Im using tap water that has the following in mg/L which im told is ppm

Alkalinity, Total* 44.0
Hardness* 28.0
Calcium* 7.4
Magnesium 2.3


Can i expect to see any calmag issues with the amt of calcium and magnesium in my tap coupled with Dynagro Foliage Pro (veg) and Bloom (flower)

thanks guys!

Nope. Doubt it.
But one thing I have noticed with Hempys after doing many runs: you will get explosive growth if you feed EVERY day. The fresh oxygen gives a noticeable boost to the plants, and every day watering/feeding is how you develop hydro roots, and maximum yield. I have gotten bigger plants in two gallon buckets watered/fed daily than I got in 5 gallon buckets watered/fed every other day. It's a hydro medium, and you can't over water coco. Keep a fresh res and you will notice a big difference.

 

[thewhitelotus]

Nope. Doubt it.
But one thing I have noticed with Hempys after doing many runs: you will get explosive growth if you feed EVERY day. The fresh oxygen gives a noticeable boost to the plants, and every day watering/feeding is how you develop hydro roots, and maximum yield. I have gotten bigger plants in two gallon buckets watered/fed daily than I got in 5 gallon buckets watered/fed every other day. It's a hydro medium, and you can't over water coco. Keep a fresh res and you will notice a big difference.

I was wondering about this. Currently my hempys are going about 2-3 days without watering....i simply tilt the bucket until water flows out and it gives me an idea of how full they are.
Are you saying you just feed it daily even if the res is partially full? Do you just feed till runoff like usual?

Going to meet up with the House & Garden office today and get a rundown of their coco product line and grab a few free samples....let me know if you have anything you want me to ask them

 

[mattkilla420]

Re: Coco Hempy style.

Nope. Doubt it.
But one thing I have noticed with Hempys after doing many runs: you will get explosive growth if you feed EVERY day. The fresh oxygen gives a noticeable boost to the plants, and every day watering/feeding is how you develop hydro roots, and maximum yield. I have gotten bigger plants in two gallon buckets watered/fed daily than I got in 5 gallon buckets watered/fed every other day. It's a hydro medium, and you can't over water coco. Keep a fresh res and you will notice a big difference.

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Yeah after my experience I believe this to be the same. The most important thing to remember when your first transplant is that you do want the buckets to dry up so those roots seek the Rez. If you water too much that first week or two you get some sad looking plants. Look back at my threads, I think that was our problem. But oh boy once you see those roots hit the Rez, or notice the rapid growth, then I think everyday watering is the way. I actually just discussed this with my P the other day and told him we need to start watering more frequently right now is every 2-3 days. will report my observations.

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[RetroGrow]

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Yeah after my experience I believe this to be the same. The most important thing to remember when your first transplant is that you do want the buckets to dry up so those roots seek the Rez. If you water too much that first week or two you get some sad looking plants. Look back at my threads, I think that was our problem. But oh boy once you see those roots hit the Rez, or notice the rapid growth, then I think everyday watering is the way. I actually just discussed this with my P the other day and told him we need to start watering more frequently right now is every 2-3 days. will report my observations.

sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx JB

If you do it from the start, you will develop ''hydro" roots. That makes all the difference. Don't drown the seedlings, but if you start in 16 oz. Solo cups (clear, so you can see roots) in Miracle Grow Seed Starter Mix, or Fox Farms Seed Starter Mix (mostly spaghnum with light nutes and mycorrhizae) you will give your seedlings their best possible start. When that cup is filled with roots, transplant directly to coco, and commence to watering/feeding daily. Makes a huge difference over every other day feeding, mostly because of the fresh oxygen and promotion of hydro roots. If you wait too long, you will not get hydro roots. Like I posted, I got much bigger plants in 2 gallon buckets fed daily, than in 5 gallon buckets fed every 2 or three days, even though you will still get decent results that way. Another option is drip rings, with continuous feeding, as long as you are getting runoff every day. I posted a link to some really cool drip rings earlier in this thread. Check them out, as they come in different sizes, and have 54 holes for even watering, and stakes for inserting in your pots. Work really well. A shop vac comes in handy to collect runoff from trays under the plants. Always water/feed to runoff, ensuring that you are replacing old solution in the rez with fresh. It makes all the difference.

Here's the link for the bitchingest drip rings. I had posted in other Hempy bucket thread. These things are killer, and once dialed in, it's set & forget. Don't forget to have continuous run off......

http://www.amazon.com/Hydro-Halo-Water-Ring-9/dp/B0055F55O6/ref=pd_ybh_1

 

[Bobbo4200]

So fill the bucket to the rez hole with perlite, then fill the rest of the way with coco? Should I mix a little perlite into the coco as well. Thanks!

 

[RetroGrow]

So fill the bucket to the rez hole with perlite, then fill the rest of the way with coco? Should I mix a little perlite into the coco as well. Thanks!

Straight coco is fine, and use chunky perlite if you can get it. Just works better in the rez, but not a deal breaker by any means if you can't get the chunky.

 

[Bobbo4200]

K k, thanks Retro!

 

[oneshot]

If you do it from the start, you will develop ''hydro" roots. That makes all the difference. Don't drown the seedlings, but if you start in 16 oz. Solo cups (clear, so you can see roots) in Miracle Grow Seed Starter Mix, or Fox Farms Seed Starter Mix (mostly spaghnum with light nutes and mycorrhizae) you will give your seedlings their best possible start. When that cup is filled with roots, transplant directly to coco, and commence to watering/feeding daily. Makes a huge difference over every other day feeding, mostly because of the fresh oxygen and promotion of hydro roots. If you wait too long, you will not get hydro roots. Like I posted, I got much bigger plants in 2 gallon buckets fed daily, than in 5 gallon buckets fed every 2 or three days, even though you will still get decent results that way. Another option is drip rings, with continuous feeding, as long as you are getting runoff every day. I posted a link to some really cool drip rings earlier in this thread. Check them out, as they come in different sizes, and have 54 holes for even watering, and stakes for inserting in your pots. Work really well. A shop vac comes in handy to collect runoff from trays under the plants. Always water/feed to runoff, ensuring that you are replacing old solution in the rez with fresh. It makes all the difference.

Here's the link for the bitchingest drip rings. I had posted in other Hempy bucket thread. These things are killer, and once dialed in, it's set & forget. Don't forget to have continuous run off......

http://www.amazon.com/Hydro-Halo-Wat...d_sim_sbs_hg_3

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