Clones in soil aren't happy

[stizzle]

Hi all

I obtained 2 clones on 5/21 that had been rooted in rockwool and transplanted into party cups with soil. They looked healthy with green stems & leaves but after transplanting into larger containers with supersoil & 30% pearlite they started getting droopy w/ purplish stems. The leaves are also getting light green.

I thought I overwatered them so I let the soil dry out a bit but this did not help them to perk back up. Up until this point I had been watering once a day with tap water & superthrive which seemed to be keeping the soil at a good moisture level. I also sprinkled a teaspoon of epsom salts on the soil top. Still looking sad and light green, I gave them a light dose of sensi grow (this time using my new RO water) which had no effect. The soil says it will feed for up to 45 days so I thought that would be good enough to keep these small clones healthy for a few weeks.

Basically they look like something minor is wrong but none of my attempts are making them any worse/better. I'm thinking it's either the supersoil or my pH is way off (pH pen is on its way) maybe a combo. I have a few harvests under my belt using wally world continuous feeding soil and a few using DWC hydro but never had as many problems as now w/ this supersoil.

Thanks for any suggestions. I'll snap some pics when I get home.

 

[Breezy420]

I think we need more information. Supersoil doesnt explain whats in your soil which would be helpful to know. Also pictures speak a thousand words, and would help us diagnose your problem much easier. Get that PH pen asap too!

 

[stizzle]

http://www.supersoil.com/products/supersoil/garden_soil.shtml

That's the soil which I added 30% perlite plus a teaspoon of epsom.

 

[Brian1975]

Hi all

. They looked healthy with green stems & leaves but after transplanting into larger containers with supersoil & 30% pearlite they started getting droopy w/ purplish stems. The leaves are also getting light green.

What size container are they in?? I use Supersoil w/perlite as well. I go about 70/30(Supersoil, perlite) but I put a layer of perlite on the bottom of the pot as well.

I thought I overwatered them so I let the soil dry out a bit but this did not help them to perk back up. Up until this point I had been watering once a day with tap water & superthrive which seemed to be keeping the soil at a good moisture level.

Tap water needs to sit out overnight. Can also have a high PH. Nutes with tap water and straight water with distilled, that's what I do.Cannabis likes to dry out between waterings. If you are maintaining some moisture level by watering every day then that is one problem.

The soil says it will feed for up to 45 days so I thought that would be good enough to keep these small clones healthy for a few weeks.

As I said, I use Supersoil. It will not feed a healthy rooted clone that long. Definitely need to feed the weed.

Basically they look like something minor is wrong but none of my attempts are making them any worse/better. I'm thinking it's either the supersoil or my pH is way off (pH pen is on its way) maybe a combo.

I have good results with Supersoil. PH maintains between 6.2(lowest I had) and 6.7(highest, I am at 6.4 a lot). I use a mixture of distilled and tap(that has sat out overnight).

I have a few harvests under my belt using wally world continuous feeding soil and a few using DWC hydro but never had as many problems as now w/ this supersoil.

Make sure to allow it to properly dry out between waterings and when you do water, make sure you have some run-off. I feed mine Schultz brand nutes every third watering and sometimes I throw in an extra feeding(depending on what the plant says to me).

 

[stizzle]

Thanks Brian,

They are in 1/2 gal pots I believe. I will let them dry out a bit more and get some pics up. Hopefully when I go home today they will look more happy

 

[Simpleton]

Same Problem Here

Same Problem Here

This used to be a no brainer to me.

Put the plants in Supersoil and perlite, dump water on em, and watch em grow to the size to be flowered.

But now I am getting slow stunted growth, yellowing with some rust holes, and little transpiration.

It used to be that Supersoil was very consistent. But I have noticed recently that there has been some variability in the bags. Decomposition and the earthy smell ( you know what I mean if you use Supersoil) has varied somewhat. I have noticed that when the bag is warm (still somewhat composting) and the earthy smell is somewhat sour, that the plants react by altered above ground growth. I think that when I get one of those bags from now on, I will mix in perlite, dump a little moisture, and let it sit for a week to two weeks to mellow out.

Do you think maybe that in this state of decomposition or composting, the ph drifts or nitrogen gets locked out as it might be devoted to the break down of uncomposted material?

I have not yet figured out if it is my variety, the soil, or both.

None the less, it is a total pain in the ass. Especially when beautifully rooted clones are placed into what you believe is a promising medium, only to watch growth experience a setback.

 

[Brian1975]

I pre-mix for the most part but only let it sit for a couple of days and I don't experience any trouble. I use distilled/tap to water plants and have any problems. A good mixture of perlite is real important as far as I am concerned.

 

[Simpleton]

Here is my prob **PICS**

Here is my prob **PICS**

Last pic is of a clone that was not topped.

Strain: Lavender, so I was told.
Lights:4' flourescents
Temp: 75-85 F
Medium: Supersoil & Perlite
Nutes: Liquid Karma and Molasses

Plant that was not topped remains in a 4" container while the topped plants were transplanted into 1 Gal.

 

[Brian1975]

How often are you watering the untopped one in that size container? Probably should be transplanted into a bigger pot as well. Check out this articlehttp://www.evergreengardenworks.com/rootball.htm

 

[est1977]

looks like a nute lock up or a over fert