Clone problems.

[supafly]

My first clones here I just got them from a friend about 7 days ago. He has been having some issues with some of them, and im pretty sure that they are just like this. They were potted in the two's so I split them and put them in different pots trying to leave as much root mass untouched as possable.

The two in the pics that are very light and wilted where starting that before i repotted them.

They are in FFOF cut with perilite.

Temps and humidity are in check as well as ventalation.


At first i thought that they may need some food due to there light color and wilting so I gave them a small shot (1/2 strenth)of old age grow veg ferts.

After two days of them getting worse i figured that they maybe over fert problem or PH issues.

Three days ago i flushded them with PH'd water and this is where they are at now.

They have no lime yet. They will get that when they get repotted next.

The two in the middle are from the same plant and seem to be doing much better than the othere two. They are a little droopy but im pretty sure thats from pulling them apart and some slite overwatering.

The three in the back are attempts at a reveg.

Any thoughts guys?

 

[hydroclops]

It could be tranplant shock.

And over watering, not to sound like a dick but you do have drain holes in the cups?

I would give them another week, and let the top inch of soil get dry.

and lets see some more pics in a couple of days

 

[supafly]

Yes there are holes in the cups. They have good drainage.

I knew there will be some shock from the transplant. The front two are just so much worse off than the others, and they started to lose color and droop before they where transplanted.

I can wait to see what happens but some opinios would be good to hear while i do so.

 

[10k]

Looking very overwatered there supafly.
Hows the runoff pH reading ?

 

[Guest]

They are overwatered thats for sure. PH maybe out of target.

 

[supafly]

The PH is around 6.8.

I know they are overwaterd. Im sure that came from the flush.

I guess its alot easier for me to tell just how yellow these things really are, i don't think that the pictures do the true color any justice. There is also some small brown spots that look like nute burn but not in the typical shape of nute burn more of a streeck down the outer edges of the leaves.

Ill let them dry for a few days. See what happens

Just for the record this is not my first go around. And i am aware of what the over watering is doing to the plant. Im more concerned about the light color and dryish leaves.

I do appreciate the help guys im just hoping for somone to tell me something that I had not already thought of.

Thanks

 

[Pimp Aurora]

I'd trim at least 1/4 of the tips of the blades on the leaves to reduce the amount of transpiration, that's what's causing them to go limp imo, too much leaf material.. not enough roots.

 

[MTF-Sandman]

I'd trim at least 1/4 of the tips of the blades on the leaves to reduce the amount of transpiration, that's what's causing them to go limp imo, too much leaf material.. not enough roots.

WTF?!

Don't trim your leaves if your plants are overwatered (or ever for that matter)...it'll just compound the issue by not allowing the moisture that is in the medium to be taken up by the plant - which will end up causing more root problems since they'll be sitting in wet medium with no way of removing the moisture.

Reminds me of the old days in medicine where blood lettings were used to heal a deep cut

 

[Pimp Aurora]

I always trim the tips of my leaves on clones as OT1 suggested and i've rarely had one go limp since

Right enough the compost does look pretty solid, maybe coco coir could be a better alternative to perlite to help any drainage and over watering problems?

btw I trim the tips off the blades 2 days before acutally taking the cuts, it gives them a couple of days to recover on the mother.

 

[MTF-Sandman]

You're thinking about during the process of rooting the clones where they have NO roots to sustain the moisture loss via traspiration. That would be considered underwatering - which is the opposite of the problem that supafly is having. Those plants are having problems getting rid of moisture fast enough to allow enough O2 to remain in the root zone...not problems retaining moisture in the plant itself.