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Chronic Scrog Outdoors?

Xdox

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Ok well I was thinking about the idea of a outdoor scrog. I have nine serious chronic plants about a lil over a week old in cups outside now. I was then planning on putting them in an area 10 x 10 area with 3 feet between each plant and have a mix of black gold soil and some manure added to the soil and just letting them grow with the help of me watering and picking out the males etc. I've seen a few chronic grows but all of them indoors.

The chronic grows that were done scrog style seemed to yield alot more than the chronic grows that were just done normally. Take a look at this 1 plant, scrog, 1 lb chronic grow. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=12653&highlight=chronic+scrog
Another chronic scrog 11 plants not sure on total weight http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=20477&page=4&pp=15
Normal Chronic grow 4 plants...dry weight 235 grams
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=17877&highlight=serious+chronic
6 plant chronic grow total weight 1 pound I believe.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=27949&page=1&pp=15

Now I dont really think the lighting matters so I didnt put it because the sun is my light and im pretty sure thats stronger than most HID lights eh? So hopefully I could pull 1lb off each plant.
I've seen other scrog chronic grows that have gotten a pound plus off a few plants. So Im thinking chronics a good strain for scrog. Or do you think since I was growing outside and they can get as big as needed that I'd get more letting them grow normal tree style or scrog? Cause I was thinking still put the plants in the ground and when the get old enough to sex pick out the males then add a screen above the females?

Or would I need to add the screen earlier? Anyways though what would I do get some kind of wiring/fencing ten by ten and support it on the sides with wood or some kind of steaks and just train the plants like a scrog. Also would 3 feet apart for each plant be enough if all the 9 plants are in a 10 by 10 area. Of course some will be male so those will be picked and will 3 feet apart for each plant be enough if doing a scrog outside?So what do you think I should do? Basicaly I want to get the most weight out of my plants I can so please help. Thoughts? Comments? thank you.
Older pic of one of the seedlings
 
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Are you going to provide places for you to walk in the scrog, and places where you can reach into it to train branches? How high off the ground would the wire be? What kind of wire would you use for the screen?

I can see the merits of this idea, especially in a situation where you do not have to worry about "eyes in the sky". I've always thought it would be cool to do a "scrog" in a Greenhouse, to maximize the use of space.

A rougher version of this idea I have heard about involves growing your plants to 2' tall, and simply throwing chicken wire over the plant and securing the plant bent over horizontial, and then allowing the plant to grow back up through the wire. Very rough indeed.
 

Xdox

Member
hmm well you make a good point with the walking in the scrog and training of the branches as it would be pretty hard. So maybe like have a section in the middle of the scrog where I can walk so basicaly the scrog is seperated into two parts this would probably be easier. If necessary I could seperate it into 4 parts a section for each part of the plants. And as for wire I have no idea, I still need to purchase it of course so whatever the local hardware store has I'm gonna have to get if someone can help me out on that.

Also I'm not sure how high the wire would be off the ground. At least taller than the plants are at the time after there sexed I was thinking. So lol if someone could direct me in that area too thanks. Also I do not have to worry about any eyes in the sky so that parts all good. Thanks.
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Ok so how about this?


Theres a little mistake in that picture the green circles are supposed to be the plants in the keys but its says soil just ignore that anyways though.
Have each area of soil be what do you think 5 x 5 feet? and then have two plants in each except the one will have 3 since I have 9 plants total now of course not all of these will be female so Ill get rid of the males. After I have just all females add 4 individual screens. Question is should they each be 5 x 5 or bigger extending perhaps half way to the next area of soil or what? Thanks
 
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cannanaut

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Xdox are u sure, man, that all 9 will be females, man, only if u have feminised seeds!!! Just ignore that scrog thing and train ur beauties alot. Do u know that yields oudoors are way bigger than indoor grown. If u train chronic(do some toppin, and trainin) u can easily get 500 grams per plant!
 

Captain Skunk

Active member
I agree with canna....why limit your grow, with wire mesh outdoors?

Topping and training or a simple LST will accomplish the same thing without restricting the growth.

Here's a ducksfoot from a couple seasons back that was topped and tied to expose the secondary branches to sunlight and trained to grow wider than taller.



good luck
 

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The thing is a true "scrog" would be pointless outdoors, the thing is though guys(Canna & CS), I do believe there could be some merit to the idea of using wire mesh to help you train the plant.

Many folks like to pant near to fences, so they can use it to help train the plants along and through its mesh, a close freind has done this many times in his garden. Its called "Espalier", a popular way to grow vining plants(grapes, berries, etc), used throughout the wine country of California.

A wire mesh screen could be built at any angle wished, and used to help optimize the canopy, you are just making it easier to have the exact right spot to tie that branch to.
 
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