Choosing moms for outdoor growing inside?

[Beesknees1]

I was looking for insight from anyone with experience choosing moms of outdoor strains in an indoor space. Got a bunch of outdoor seeds in the mail, gotta find my keeper moms and make clones but on account of the time of year it's gonna have to be done indoors. I'm looking for a moderate to high yielding, high quality flower, EARLY FINISIHING, mold resistant phenos. The strains are all outdoor strains bred to grow and finish in my region. Just not sure what to look for in and indoor environment
Cheers!

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

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[NEED 4 SEED]

Just tell us what strains you got so we get an idea. You definitely want some strains that don't stretch much and in general don't grow too big. Plants with a short flowering time usually don't grow too big, so that would be a hint. Depending on your growing style you can choose more bushy or more single stalk strains. If you plan to plant only a few in big pots, grow the bushy ones! If you want a see of green grow, i.e. many small pots, then take the ones that don't branch out so much.

 

[f-e]

You can't get a mum up, take cuttings off it, flower the cuttings, testing for resistance, to then take more from the right mums, to be ready in 8 weeks. You will be lucky to get your seeds up and take just one batch of cuttings to put out on time. In your region???

 

[TychoMonolyth]

The requirements you list are strain dependent, and keeping mothers is a commitment requiring time and space most fail to maintain (i.e. It's enjoyable, but a lot of work).

I don't know how many you have so I'm going to guess 10 seeds. I suggest you start them all and transplant them outdoor for the season. Once they've been vegging for a month, take cuttings from the one you like best and go from there. At this time of year, I'll pop 20 seeds for my yard. By the time June 1st arrives, I've killed all but 4 that will go in my yard.

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Some would say to label them all 1 to 10, then take cuttings from each one (2 or 3) in July. Keep your new cuttings in the vegetative stage indoors and don't let them flower! Once your plants go into harvest, select the best one and keep the corresponding clone as your mother(s) and ditch the rest. Your clones will get big so you might want to keep taking cutting and restating them a couple times so you only have to deal with small plants and not monsters. You replace big plants with new small clones (once they're established of course).

BTW, this will only work with Photoperiod plants. You can't clone an Autoflower because the clones "remember" when they are in their life cycle. Some have reveged autoflowers, but only because they're not true autoflowers.

Good luck.

 

[Tynehead Tom]

I agree, these things are strain dependant.
For myself I don't get too deep into choosing my outdoor stuff as I have to light dep anyways. I grow what I like from my indoor garden in my greenhouse just the same.

What I do though is I start my seed and veg indoors until plants can go outside which for me is mid june. Any earlier and they will stall out and want to flower due to day length.
So indoors, I veg at the light schedule my plants would be getting on the day I put them outside. This depends on your location.
Check your sunrise/sunset for your area for that dates you expect to put plants outside. Day length should be 16hrs ballpark. I find most indoor vegged plants will want to flower or get confused if they veg with less than 16hr but 18 hr is too much and the plants can stall out from the stress of going from 18 indoor to 16. Hope I'm making sense.

So I veg my seedlings and clones under 16hr on /8off and I use metal halide lighting. I started the first half of this years outdoor seeds on the recent full moon (snow moon) and the other half will get popped on 4-20

 

[Beesknees1]

Just tell us what strains you got so we get an idea. You definitely want some strains that don't stretch much and in general don't grow too big. Plants with a short flowering time usually don't grow too big, so that would be a hint. Depending on your growing style you can choose more bushy or more single stalk strains. If you plan to plant only a few in big pots, grow the bushy ones! If you want a see of green grow, i.e. many small pots, then take the ones that don't branch out so much.

Blue papaya Kush, Apricot Kush. Auto Apricot, Auto Durban, Pink apricot. All bred by Ancestral seeds. The "Autos" are actually semi autos and should be able to be vegged under 24 hrs light. Im planning to double or triple plant those. The other two are Full photo period plants. The semi autos are supposed to finish Early September and the photoperiods late september. I like to grow big plants they just need to flip at the right time so there done early.

 

[Beesknees1]

You can't get a mum up, take cuttings off it, flower the cuttings, testing for resistance, to then take more from the right mums, to be ready in 8 weeks. You will be lucky to get your seeds up and take just one batch of cuttings to put out on time. In your region???

I'm planning to grow out the seeds and top them and then flower the tops after a couple weeks veg. The seeds will stay in there own veg space and become moms if I like how they flowered in my room. Usualy dont plant till June 1-15th here so plenty of time to grow up big moms

 

[Beesknees1]

Just not sure how to select good moms in an indoor room when im looking for outdoor moms.

 

[Beesknees1]

Should be clear the full photo periods will be in a greenhouse. Got a Greenhouse and outdoor medical license

 

[Beesknees1]

Also was thinking about making a bunch of Female auto seeds with colloidal silver. Anyone done this. My big concern was weird inconsistent offspring genetics where theres a ton of different phenos

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Also was thinking about making a bunch of Female auto seeds with colloidal silver. Anyone done this. My big concern was weird inconsistent offspring genetics where theres a ton of different phenos

The short answer is yes. This is a better answer:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=357407


Now might be a good time to lurk the forums. Lot of fantastic info in them.

 

[NEED 4 SEED]

Blue papaya Kush, Apricot Kush. Auto Apricot, Auto Durban, Pink apricot. All bred by Ancestral seeds. The "Autos" are actually semi autos and should be able to be vegged under 24 hrs light. Im planning to double or triple plant those. The other two are Full photo period plants. The semi autos are supposed to finish Early September and the photoperiods late september. I like to grow big plants they just need to flip at the right time so there done early.

I would say just try what you want to try and collect some experience with them and see how they adapt to your environment. It is hard to give an advice on plants that aren't even grown yet. You seem to have an understanding of growing so I don't see too many obstacles for your grow.

 

[f-e]

Flowering indoors on 12/12 I found my earliest outdoor strains had slowed down and choked on the feed before 5 weeks has passed. The plants that do like 7-8 weeks indoors, were those listed as first week in October.

To find early ones, you should be thinking about 16 hours light. It's long been said that 18 hours is the minimum to keep most things in veg. Look at peoples diary threads. Their locations and the light-hours websites. A couple of weeks after the 16/8 point, my plants are usually a couple of weeks into flower. At this point, I can see the early ones, the late ones, the pointless ones and the better locations on my plot for the dirt and the shadows. I can't see how resistant they will be though.

Edit: Still... some plants do catch up, because while later starters, they have a shorter flowering time. It's not possible to see a full seasons worth of detail, without doing a full season

 

[Beesknees1]

The short answer is yes. This is a better answer:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=357407


Now might be a good time to lurk the forums. Lot of fantastic info in them.

Thanks! This is gold