Chloramine removal filter

[Darkstarlive]

In searching for something that will remove/reduce Chloramine from my RO water I found a company called KDF that makes a prefilter,( KDF 85) that will remove about 90-95% of chloramine. I called and asked if this was accurate and I was told that my current Chloramine level of 1.6 ppm would be reduced to .03 ppm, its worth a shot because right now besides all the beneficial bacteria, fungi and microbes that I've using and wasting because of the chloramine I feel that the plants are starting to be effected by it.

I'm doing the exact same thing that I've done for years and I'm getting stunted growth and wierd yellowing of the leaves and new growth.

Peace...

 

[EvilTwin]

Hi Dark,
I'm really not that familiar with the term chloramine. It's the same or similar to chlorine I presume? OK, well I'll tell you what I know about Chlorine and it should relate to chloramine.

RO filter membranes are severely damaged by chlorine. That's why at least one of the pre-filters on your RO unit is activated charcoal. That's specifically to remove chlorine in order to protect the RO membrane. So assuming we're talking about the same thing...your RO unit is already removing the chlorine from your water. That is if you're replacing your charcoal pre-filter occasionally.

I replace mine annually and my RO filter is still working fine. I suppose you could add another inline carbon filter. I have a small carbon final filter that I use to sweeten the water that I use specifically for drinking water.

So if your pre-filters haven't been changed in awhile...do it. And then test your water before and after the RO unit to be sure it's working properly. Perhaps your membrane got damaged.

One other issue that relates is that my town (and many) will give a big blast of chlorine for a few days after a water main rupture and repair. I'm on a list of water customers that get informed when that's going to happen so I can shut down my RO filter for a few days. Happens about once a year where I live.

Peace,
Dee

 

[mexilandrace]

the filtration process involved in making RO water should also remove chloramines.


I know this from years and years and years of keeping Reef style fish tanks, there should be no chloramines in good RO water.

I don't really get why you would be having the problems, but point of fact, just bubble your water and it should evaporate off.

if you are really worried their are drops that will get rid of chloramines for use in fish tanks, provided you are bubbling your water anyways it shouldn't be an issue to use, though on the package it does say it's not for fish intended for human consumption.
but ya what he said is accurate, just get a good carbon filter(or make one) it should also filter it out and be cheap.

 

[richyrich]

Chloramines do not bubble off like chlorine.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Hi Darkstarlive,
If you have PVC foil in your room, I would give it a try to substitute it with PE foil.
Softeners in PVC foil can evaporate and cause these symptoms (yellowing, reduced plant growth). I think its known as "bad room syndrom"

Greetings,
Sheik Yerbouti

 

[Blue Dot]

Not all RO units remove chloramines, or equally as well I should say.

I'm looking into a GE merlin RO and they definately state in the manual that cholaramines are only removed by like 60-80% compared to something like 95% for cholrine. (I'd have to check the specific numbers but it's relatively accurate).

 

[JustanotherDave]

Chloramines do not bubble off like chlorine.

They do...but it takes more time than chlorine. That's why some use it...it's stable for a longer period of time.

Great article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

About 4-5 yrs ago I had a grow in 100% perlite and at that particular time I decided to try one of the DutchMaster products (Protect?)...can't recall exactly. But holy shit...whitest, fuzziest roots EVER. Chloramine was the active ingredient.
Then I got side tracked into the whole beneficials thing...slowly backing out of that mess

 

[richyrich]

They do...but it takes more time than chlorine. That's why some use it...it's stable for a longer period of time.

Great article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

About 4-5 yrs ago I had a grow in 100% perlite and at that particular time I decided to try one of the DutchMaster products (Protect?)...can't recall exactly. But holy shit...whitest, fuzziest roots EVER. Chloramine was the active ingredient.
Then I got side tracked into the whole beneficials thing...slowly backing out of that mess

From your link:

Aquarium owners must remove the chloramine from their tap water because it is toxic to fish. Aging the water for a few days removes chlorine but not the more stable chloramine, which can be neutralised using products available at pet stores.

It does not bubble off like chlorine. Usual practice around here is 24 hours for chlorine. Chloramines will take several days if not into a week or so.

I think you might of been trying to refer to Dutch Master Zone. I know all about it. It is a chloramine derivative.

 

[Darkstarlive]

Chloramines do not bubble off, dissipate or boil off.
Chloramine is a stable compound of chlorine and ammonia, most municipal water supplies use it and it will kill all beneficial bacteria, fungi and microbes as well as any bad one and no charcoal filter will remove/reduce chloramine

Pet stores sell stuff to nutreulize chloramine but I don't know what those products will do to plants.

Peace...

 

[mexilandrace]

use your water and let it bubble for a couple days as a tea.

I understand the science, but when I use tap water to make my teas and the water has chloramines in it, and my water foams and acts like normal water eventually I have a hard time believing it doesn't go away.

That or it doesn't affect beneficials like chlorine does. Fact is it isn't nearly as strong a poison as chlorine is.

and the pet store stuff doesn't actually neutralize chloramines, it breaks the bond between the chlorine and the ammonia.