Chemdawg D (??) vs Pacific's G13...

[Guest]

that would have been an ideal scenerio breederbrad but all the beans germinated were female.

 

[Brad]

oh sorry i thought there was a male too? maybe use a male that has similar traits.
PEACE

 

[Guest]

no they werent EXACTLY the same. if your beans are selfed beans from an s1 plant, you have s2 seeds. s2 seeds provide the whole range of the genetic spectrum and are quite different than s1 seeds. dont pat your back too hard if you dont understand simple genetics. you dont have the same seeds as chemdog had, plain and simple. not to mention your 'chemdawg' buds came from a street dealer who could have called it anything.

growing weed isnt hard, growing the best possible weed you can produce though, requires a little know how.

sorry if you think im a mr know-it-all but youre just digging yourself deeper and further side-tracking beancounter's thread.

 

[.♠.]

geeze take a break.

It is awesome that you found some seeds in a chemdog bag. Grow them out and see what ya get. Hopefully something killer. Maybe the next "elite".

There are times in life where it certainly feels as though you are surrounded by "know-it-all's" but just remember you can choose to listen to what you wish, and ignore the rest.

I have been around this site since damn near its begining, and have seen a few 'know-it-all's" come and go, but overall I would say that this site is your best bet for well rounded, tried and true information on our favorite plant.

Peace

 

[Farmer John]

"I know now it's just unbelieveable that someone in college could possibly have any grower skills or elite clones and produce real Chemdog." I dont find it that unbelieveable, hell, the way things look and from what I've read it seems that most of these elite strains are a accident or bagseed, you dont need a phd to grow weed and like something and no skills required except cloning skills to give it to someone else, chill out guys, seems like the whole world has forgot that theres a million different elite plants out there you just gotta find your own and hype it enough, peace. Oh yeah, and I'd like to see some breeding done with the selfed seeds, like these s2 and so generations people are talking about and what happens when you breed selfed seeds...kinda odd that many of the s1's I've seen also produce male plants, now that is STRANGE.

 

[Babbabud]

The main thing is that if it is an S1 or s2 or whatever, is that they are labeled as such. Cant just call it chemdog D or chemdog #4. it has to be labeled chemdog D s1 or chemdog #4 s1 or it really sucks for everyone. People that refuse to label things correctly are doing no one any favors

 

[Guest]

FREE THE WEED!

 

[Farmer John]

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah.

 

[cannigrow]

The main thing is that if it is an S1 or s2 or whatever, is that they are labeled as such. Cant just call it chemdog D or chemdog #4. it has to be labeled chemdog D s1 or chemdog #4 s1 or it really sucks for everyone. People that refuse to label things correctly are doing no one any favors

Very good point. This is how we end up with three bubbas, five OGs, and so on. They're all good, but just add a little label to spare confustion, ya know?

 

[Guest]

And that is the difference ( from what I have read) between Chemdog and SD IBl. That Rez did make a hybrid with the NYCD that consistently replicates the qualities of a previously clone only SD. With a few pleasant phenomes and not just one. And hopefully some improvements on the original. ( I'll see soon enough!)

Anyway , instead of arguing about who has what. What would be more useful would be info like: I grew in coco under a 600 watt with PBP and this is my result, or in soil with teas and molasses etc and this is what worked for me.

Or like someone else posted, here is a unique trait of this plant. If you didn't get this wierd trait, you probably don't have it.

It's just weed, really... there are so many good kinds.


Stay safe and let's stay friendly. I believe most of us are intelligent enough to differentiate between information and hype without having to be disrespectful with each other.

Even though it isn't rocket science ( really, it isn't) it is time consuming and a lot of work. So it is a commitment. And I think we are all committed.

Back to the topic:

If it wasn't Chemdog, what was it?

 

[ograskal]

I said there are Prolly around 20 peeps in the World that have the Legit CHemdog "D" cut.....Give or take.....How many would you say have this very exact same cut????..~ogr

 

[Guest]

one more post for anyone that may actually try to salvage use-able information from tarzan's posts in the future:

Chemdogs found S1 seeds. I found s1 seeds. His seeds came from cloned Chemdog and my seeds came from cloned Chemdog. Whatever the seeds Chemdogs were that he found, s1 or s2, mine are the same.

that is not true. chemdog found his beans in a pund of buds, nobody knows of the strain before that. his seeds later became what are now the chemdawg clones. if from one of those clones came your seeds (if it was indeed a hermaphroditic creation) then you have s2's. that is a second generation of what chemdog found.

how do you know yours are the same since you havent popped any of them?

as babba said, please make sure anybody who gets those seeds knows they are chemdawg bagseeds.

It isn't clone only. Stick to that statement. It isn't clone only. Chemdog didn't clone it to get it. He found seeds. WTF don't you understand about that?

well i guess i disagree because with that logic, no strain that is "clone-only" is because if you stress it, it will produce seeds. the fact of the matter is hermaphroditic bagseeds from a clone-only strain are not the same as the original. thats wtf i dont understand about your logic.

maybe you should grow those beans out so you can chill out with the hostility.

 

[Breezy420]

I don't understand Tarzan of THC's logic at all. The seeds you have and the ones chemdog have aren't the same. They didnt come from the same mother plant and they're of different generations. Sure you may find something close to one of the chemdogs or hell maybe even better, but what you have isn't any of the chemdog clones. They are clone only...

 

[Burt]

i think we're getting caught up in semantics here-tarzan is saying that since chemdog came about thru s1-and he also found seeds from chemdog buds-he reasons they are s1's as well-not a great stretch of logic by any means
What i do have to add is that the potential for disappointment is great using s1's in my experience-the seeds do contain the genetic map of the mother-but it is more of a "puzzled" genetic map and i would just BX them back to your favorite s1 female 2 or 3 times to lock in specific traits-that's basically the method "know it all" breeder trolls use and you can too

 

[bartender187]

well after talking with chem about this ordeal actually this past saturday. he said it was a 91 cut of the cd. then proceeded to tell me the 91 was nothing comapred to the d. but he also said that chick outkastt ran them and killed em all as they thaught the weed was shit. so this is either that cut or a made up version of it. but i believe the cut in question(outkastt's cut) is the 91 .

thanks for clearin it up

 

[KittyCageKiller]

I wonder who coulda bought some of those $1200 Chemdog crosses on seedbay last week. I might not have if I knew Rezdog was a Mr. Know-it-all.

I would have popped the bag seed before dropping that kind of cash...let us know how either turn out..best of luck.

 

[Guest]

headband aka original diesel aka daywrecker diesel is a different strain that does contain chemdawg but is definately a different strain. check out beancounter's elite desciptions thread (sticky in flower pics forum).

headband s1's will definately be awesome, its just not the same as chemdawg.

 

[JJ-NYC]

that is not true. chemdog found his beans in a pund of buds, nobody knows of the strain before that. his seeds later became what are now the chemdawg clones. if from one of those clones came your seeds (if it was indeed a hermaphroditic creation) then you have s2's. that is a second generation of what chemdog found.

See you think Chemdog discovered Chemdog. He didn't. It was already there and he bought some. He got his in 1991. This kid's clones came from his dad's friend. He got the plant in the late 1980s. I have smoked a lot of bud since then so my memory isn't perfect. In fact I used to call it headstrap because that is what I remebered him calling it. But since I have learned it was also called headband. LOL! I use to smoke it with my friends and called it headstrap all the time. DUH!

I bet this kid's dad was smoking Chemdog before Chemdog even found it. And why does Chemdog get credit for something somebody else bred and discovered?

Chemdog wasn't disappointed in the 12 s1 seeds he found. Was he? Neither am I.

Let me give a you a little history lession. First, Chem Dawg was discovered in Co. by JoeB and his friends who named the bud Chem Dawg in 1991. It was grown by some bikers or something in the mountains. They had no name for the bud so JoeB named it Chem Dawg. It was only around a couple of times and then dissappeared. A lb was sent to Chemdog and the rest is history. So "IF" your friends got Chem Dawg it was after it was discovered and named in 1991. "So you are talking out your ass".

 

[Breezy420]

Chemdog wasn't disappointed in the 12 s1 seeds he found. Was he? Neither am I.

Except your seeds are s2's not s1's.

 

[Guest]

Chemdog only got it's name in the 90's so if the dude's dad friend was growing it since the 80's, what did he call it? And how did he ascertain that the strain that he was growing was chemdog? How did he figure that he has the same strain as chemdog when chemdog didn't even know the name of the lb he bought. I'm not saying that what you have isn't killer bud but I highly doubt that it is chemdog and I REALLY doubt if it is chemdog d (which is a clone only pheno). Bottom line is if the mom didn't come from Chemdog it ain't chemdog d. Sorry