Chemdawg D (??) vs Pacific's G13...

[mysta177]

Real D or not Im just happy to get cuts offered to me exp elite cuts like I have. Im going to put the mother into flower as soon as the clones take roots. She was run under the sun until about 4 days ago she was under 400 watts. The mix is all organic PB.
Who here knows a lil about double dog? I again dont want to add to the confusion but we got 30 sum moms 30 days into flower. They had mites, overwater, under water, heat problems etc. The peeps we got it from said its chemXafgan....I was like .....hahahahahahaha very funny theres no way someone in my community (that dont get on the net) even have a cut like this. So we said FUK it and grew it out.....and holy shit this smoke is off the charts. It tastes just like the supersilversourdieselhaze we have to the T. The smoke is more expandible and the high last a lot lot longer. It yields worth a shit tho. Thanks again bean for the kind words and great thread ill let you know how she turns. Man my pms are blown up......please no more pm asking for this cut Im not even thinking of giving it out just out of respect for chem and his crew........

 

[Guest]

double dawg is chemdawg d x (chemdawg d x afghani). i was sent a cut but it dies in transit so i have no idea what its like.

 

[JDOG6000]

My White Mustang daddy does that leaf thing too.

 

[Dusty Bowls]

my old neighbor got the high yielding doubledawg pheno and has grown it three times he says it has hung balls for him every time?? maybe its just him? who knows?

I wonder what the future holds.

 

[Guest]

i think thats the same dd pheno we just got done runnin...didnt see any balls....and lost the clone to mites unfortunately....the nugs are dryin now..they looked real similar to chem 4 cut in bloom maybe a little chunkier as you say but comparably dank...equal amounts of frost, smelling real real nice maybe more lemony than the chem...cant wait to sample the smoke, no doubt will be real tasty...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

So, from what I'm reading Danko, Outkast, beancounter, and joeshmoe, and others all have 'unrestricted' Chemdog D cuts...
Odd that a cut is so closely held and restricted by some, and yet freely given out with no restrictions at the same time... Not trying to 'stir the pot' or anything, but that seems not to make any sense...

 

[Guest]

well if danko did indeed (he said he did) give outkastt a cut, only she knows if restrictions were told to her. it seems like there werent by the amount of people they are going to....

danko probably wont be too popular with the 'chemdog family' if he freely handed out cuts to people at a high times event.

 

[beancounter]

M. Night Shamalan (s) would be proud of this story, that's fo sho.. more twists and turns than the sea-to-sky hwy on the way to Whistler..


Mysta, Joe, (and whoever else is in the same boat), I wouldn't count yer chickens before you nuggets hatch.. Our cut could have had the small leaflet thing aswell, except it wasn't something we we looking for at the time..

Let my 2 clones get a lil bigger and then I'll supply at least 10 dif pics.. and look for the offsets leaves aswell..

In fact, that trait is actualy fairly common, so IMHO it's not the 'end all' way to verify authenticity.. I've seen leaves like that on at least 10-15 dif strains, usualy ones with some afghani influence..

not that I'm hoping you guys both have the same cut I do, it just seems highly unlikely considering the circumstanses that they are dif.. I know both of yers look dif than Fire's pics I posted, but my other friend's looked dif than his before it was put in soil/soiless... and the cuts I have vegging look dif than both of their's.. enviro and nutrients can make amazing differences in the looks of the same clone..


And before getting too confident you guys got the real deal, and before you start passing it onto others as such, please flower them out completely and have someone (like swerve, etc) sample the buds for some further conformation.. these cuts can't be judged or verified in veg pics... anyone on the Bubba/OGK/ECSD search of verification can verifiy that..

And, indeed, if you guys got something different than I did, then there's seriously something 'up'... and if I did get something different I'd like the person who gave me the wrong cut to chime in and figure out where they went wrong..



thanks for chimin' in IGT.. I'd kinda be suprised if it was the danimal dawg, as my cut came from the east coast and I can't see danko getting it, passin' it to O, then passin' it to me.. But somehow, you may be right, you can never really tell what goes on behind the scenes unless you were there.. also, yer danidawg looks a lil more 'club-like' in bud structure.. but the hempy resin levels look right on, and perhaps the flavor and potency is just as umimpressive..



About danko's 'D' restrictions, I'm pretty sure he got the same or similar restrictions as anyone who received any of the chem cuts straight from chemdog.. that there should be no commercial breeding done, and that it's given to good people, sparingly..

But no, we wasn't given intructions not to pass it at all, or else O wouldn't have it..

some may not like High Times, and some may not like danko, but I believe he is the type to stay true to his word.. and if chem has told him not to pass it at all he wouldn't have..


I wish I wasn't done with this cut so damn early, it seems like we were the 1st people to get it from outkastt, cause I sure expected a few more people to chime in with some finished buds and some smoke reports..


on that note, i'm off to have a gander at my veggin' clone to look for that leaf trait.. she's still fairly small so I'm not sure if I'll find anything yet.. but i will report back on my findings...


All I know is that the 1st pics joeshmoe posted (in a dif thread) were exactly dead on for what it looked like at my bro's in veg (not Fires)... It was one of those things while browsing his thread, and not even looking at the names, i could tell it was O's dawg..

Fire's gotta lot of N in that plant above, and in fact it looks much dif than what I think of when I picture O's dawg from my memory banks..


I guess we got what? 2 more months before joe/mysta will have a real answer? tis a long wait.. I sure wish outkastt would chime in with pics and or a grow and smoke report.. It's usualy quite strange for the original 'trader' of the clone (of any strain) to be the very last person to post, and the last person to provide a grow and smoke report..


So please, I ask people to grow these cuts out fully before assuming you have the real deal..

I was convinced too, and that was from doing multi comparos to vegging chems all over IC, I convinced myself flat out, 110%.. goes to show you what realying on veg pics will get ya... usualy jack squat...

 

[Guest]

So please, I ask people to grow these cuts out fully before assuming you have the real deal..

i agree 110%.

 

[damakkus]

I am with beancounter as far as the verification. I too have seen quite a few strains carry that trait so it still isnt a sure thing.

But I have no reason to doubt anyone.

I am glad to see our comminity handle this in a classy manor.

I took a look at my chem d which is the same as joeshmoes and mine does not have that leaf so I dunno. Or does that leaf get produced when flowered? I just find it strange that my cut does not have that trait. hmmmm Could there be a mix up?

 

[bartender187]

I am glad to see our comminity handle this in a classy manor.

Well said... its a nice change from the usual shit slinging where did OG kush come from threads.... to everyone for working towards some clarity, bartender187

 

[Guest]

Double dog is nice, it's chemdog d x (chemdog d x afghanai), JJNYC is the one who bred it and did a great job imo. The ones that I've grown out are very good pot but I think it's not as potent as the D. I have a doubledog about a week from finish and it has no nanners, I've grown it from seed a few times and I've yet to see a nanner. Once in a blue moon I do get a nanner on the D but it really amounts to nothing. I don't remember seeing a seed from those in my D but I'm sure it's possible. I get the same thing on my strawberry diesel once in a while and it means nothing, I've never seen a stray seed on my strawberry D.

The leaf structure in those pics ofthose plants do resemble the D but they are alot bushier than what I've grown but I flower my cuts very small and place them in a very crowded enviorment so I'm sure that affects the structure of my plants. I'm losing my focus, I'm smoking a bowl of strawberry diesel x doubledog and getting lost in a cloud.

One thing I think we should stay focused on is that if a mistake was made it was just that, a mistake done without malice. I really don't think anyone was trying to get over on anybody, it's just shit happens.

strawberry d x doubledog

 

[Guest]

OK...that was the plan from the begining>>>grow her out and see for myself...
if its confirmed or not...dont really care.
IF ITS KIND OR NOT>>>will ultimatly be the deciding factor anyhow...
i sure wont pass it to anyone saying its the real deal...
as for respect for CHEMDOG...would love to hear what he thinks...all i have for him is respect...w/out even knowing him...
if he doesnt want me passing it...no prob...(alil late) but, a simple request from the originator of the strain would be enough for me.
then i would grow her and let her go reguardless of the fin product...
because if she was that good...i'm not to sure i could promise i wouldnt pass her on to other growers.
so...if anyone has a cut they dont want spread...please dont even offer.
mine smells real wierd...like a hospital or something???
and Chemdog, if it is yours and you want her gone...i'll smoke every bit of her with friends and let her go...aint that big of a deal. its only pot.
there are PLENTY of confirmed KILLER strains to choose from...
VERY INTERESTING how the parties in Q....are silent???whats up w/ that???chim in and end the back and forth speculations...plain and simple...
i forsee even me growing her out...not confirming the cut either...how would i know???
unless Chem came over and smoked it....we may never know for sure...
so i'll put to rest my wondering...
i dont care. if she's good...she'll make my garden her home, reguardless of her name b4 she came, or who sent her...i call her mine, now.
if she's great she'll make it...if not she's gone.


RudeDude:
"One thing I think we should stay focused on is that if a mistake was made it was just that, a mistake done without malice. I really don't think anyone was trying to get over on anybody, it's just shit happens."

all the time, to everyone.
P>Joe

 

[Guest]

i'm finding myself swept up in the IDEA of who she is...and i dont like it.
time to pull back...realize...no big deal either way...
the cut was a guesture of kindness from one grower to another...NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT> period.

 

[KittyCageKiller]

OK...that was the plan from the begining>>>grow her out and see for myself...
if its confirmed or not...dont really care.
IF ITS KIND OR NOT>>>will ultimatly be the deciding factor anyhow...
i sure wont pass it to anyone saying its the real deal...
as for respect for CHEMDOG...would love to hear what he thinks...all i have for him is respect...w/out even knowing him...
if he doesnt want me passing it...no prob...(alil late) but, a simple request from the originator of the strain would be enough for me.
then i would grow her and let her go reguardless of the fin product...
because if she was that good...i'm not to sure i could promise i wouldnt pass her on to other growers.
so...if anyone has a cut they dont want spread...please dont even offer.
mine smells real wierd...like a hospital or something???
and Chemdog, if it is yours and you want her gone...i'll smoke every bit of her with friends and let her go...aint that big of a deal. its only pot.
there are PLENTY of confirmed KILLER strains to choose from...
VERY INTERESTING how the parties in Q....are silent???whats up w/ that???chim in and end the back and forth speculations...plain and simple...
i forsee even me growing her out...not confirming the cut either...how would i know???
unless Chem came over and smoked it....we may never know for sure...
so i'll put to rest my wondering...
i dont care. if she's good...she'll make my garden her home, reguardless of her name b4 she came, or who sent her...i call her mine, now.
if she's great she'll make it...if not she's gone.


RudeDude:
"One thing I think we should stay focused on is that if a mistake was made it was just that, a mistake done without malice. I really don't think anyone was trying to get over on anybody, it's just shit happens."

all the time, to everyone.
P>Joe

best unbiased post i've seen ya post yet...kudos

 

[JJ-NYC]

my old neighbor got the high yielding doubledawg pheno and has grown it three times he says it has hung balls for him every time?? maybe its just him? who knows?

I wonder what the future holds.

Not to many reports of nanners, but it does not surprise me as most Chem D's sometime hermie late in bloom(with no harm) or when stressed by water or heat. But keep in mind that the original Dawg was pollenated by a unknown pollen source probaly by a hermie. P-Bud how does the current Chem strains compare to the original Dawg bud you guys bought from the bikers? Because if it's simular then either a Dawg male was used to make the 12 seeds or a hermie did it.

 

[nycdfan042]

wow serious lookin as always...nice buds

 

[beancounter]

JJ, no nanners on my bro's end for the record, and that was even with a bit of light burn from all the stretch. (top cola literally gre into the light). FWIW..


I'll give my clones a closer look tonight to see if i can find some offset leaves.. but i have a feeling they'll need to get a lil bigger 1st prior to getting those funny leaves..




And Joeshmoe, you summed up my thoughts and feelings perfectly.. we're both jus after the dank and the truth, and we're both curious about the same things, for the same reasons..

Anyone that knows me knows I don't like being involved in BS, or especialy being the one to start any BS..


Despite a few uncalled for comments this thread has been simply excellent and civil, and an example of how things like this should be worked out in the open here on IC..


We are closer to the truth and no one has been banned, ignored, or put on invisible. that is a great acomplishment and we all should be proud.

 

[Guest]

My finger is in your mouth kitty but I don't feel no teeth!

hahahaha





i think my grinder grinds my bud up too fine........must break out sizzors.
they are so stiikkky>>>dam rough life.

 

[Guest]

i think my grinder grinds my bud up too fine........must break out sizzors.
they are so stiikkky>>>dam rough life.

ahhh...poor joe :wink: that does look a little fine to me, maybe you just grind em too much? Either way I wouldnt complain, almost looks like a pile o kif keep on smokin strong


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