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I really hope if I get the chance to smoke some chem I jizz in my pants 3 times, right there, then fall into a deep Alice in wonderland trip and wake up on a deserted island with no clue how I got there.
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Chemdawg D (??) vs Pacific's G13...
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all i know is rudedude when you say how people back up chemdog is a good thing. i flat out agree man money greed and that bs is crap when it comes to respecting a homie.. especially a homie like chem. chemdog is one of the coolest nicest people i ahve met in the industry. period.. and from what i gather every cat that ahs the cd cuts are all the same cool fucking heads... who respect their friends and collieges(sp)... big ups to the crew.... as to the erb being grown before yeah obviously but it wasnt the same name. but man i think with all this debate if the cats that ahd the strain were still around they would be making sure it was known. especially since they can make even more loot from the smoke now more than ever.. all in all though patients and a stable full of genetics other elite holders want will eventually get you what you will want.. just be cool and be chill and be yourself. no machismo bs...
i wish him luck as i do all lovers of this medicine
tarzan-please keep in mind that only one seed proved to be worthy- chemdog d-the others were "OK" now what that means to mortals who aren't ganga gods is debatable...the others were probably "dank enough" for most
clone/label all moms and start the BX'ing
i hate seeing old heads feeling like they aren't welcome or feel the need to run off-its the opposite of what mary wants and the community as a whole wants
tarzan-please keep in mind that only one seed proved to be worthy- chemdog d-the others were "OK" now what that means to mortals who aren't ganga gods is debatable...the others were probably "dank enough" for most
clone/label all moms and start the BX'ing
i hate seeing old heads feeling like they aren't welcome or feel the need to run off-its the opposite of what mary wants and the community as a whole wants
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burt- they are a bunch that are "worthy," chemdawg d, chemdawg's sister, chemdawg #4, etc.
Well said rudedude J.B. and myself or any of our bros don't know what happened to the dog bud. If my memory serves me that was the name back then dogbud. But lots of good pot back then didn't have names. Other people could have gotton seeds back then but did they do anything with them. And the growers could be still growing it or not who knows? All i know is chem saved those seeds and did great thing with them.
hey H&L,
your absolutely right bro-there was more than one keeper-thats for sure-4 or 5 i believe
I'm basing my statement on the reports i read which seemed pretty unanimous in their agreement that the chemdog d was "the one"
would i be content with any of the other phenos?
hell yeah i would-but i'd always wonder what i was missing out on...
"But lots of good pot back then didn't have names"
ain't that the truth-the early 90's "mids' were better than the dank imo-that pure skunk knocked you up right!
stay safe everyone
your absolutely right bro-there was more than one keeper-thats for sure-4 or 5 i believe
I'm basing my statement on the reports i read which seemed pretty unanimous in their agreement that the chemdog d was "the one"
would i be content with any of the other phenos?
hell yeah i would-but i'd always wonder what i was missing out on...
"But lots of good pot back then didn't have names"
ain't that the truth-the early 90's "mids' were better than the dank imo-that pure skunk knocked you up right!
stay safe everyone
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from what i gather sour diesel is chemdog, so its out there already... 
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Not trying to flame ya, but most of the others are really good too. When you're comparing the best with almost the best, you really can't lose. Snowdawg tastes better imo, but isn't as strong; bubblechem tastes awesome and is strong, but not as strong as chem d which doesn't taste quite as good as the others, but fantastic nonetheless....so it's all relative ya know?
feck, jus lost a big post..
Anyways, sorry I haven't been around, as H&L said I've been up to my ears in breeding of a non cannabis nature..
My 1st post still sums up my feelings pretty good.. still looking for a definative answer, and hoping to see others who have grown the 'O' cut to chime in...
JJNYC (or was it Pdub, sorry, long thread) i agree about the 'O' thing, and i'm not trying to add any new monikers to further the confusion.. I also agree that stuff shouldn't be passed unless they're 1st verified, but it doesn't always work out that way.. And as others mentioned danko did 'verify' it was CD D.. i just wasn't convinced by what my friend and I were seeing and wanted to dbl check before simply calling it Chemdawg D.. In a way I was doing it to prevent confusion.. as soon as it's verified one way or the other i certainly won't be callin' it O's...
Mysta, i sure hope yer drive was worth it, and i do look forward to other reports on this cut so please keep us informed...
MysterX, i apreciate u askin' chemdog bout this sitch, and apreciate the info.. Altho I'm quite doubtful this is '91 or even related to any of the dawgs.. but maybe I've/we've hyped the dawgs up a lil too much in our minds (me and my friend).. cause we're expecting something that would make you wanna cull ECSD or something.. if you know what i mean..
I'm still not thoroughly convinced that it's even related to the fam because.... I mean, my boy would rather have Choc Trip, Genius, A11, SPG back (recently culled) than run this cut again..
I realize they can be a bit picky, but he treated her like a princess, and she never tipped out/burned/clawed.. she wasn't stretching from any enviromental conditions, she was jus a very tall and fast stretchin' gal..
1969 was right about PG13, in all ways.. It's good, but not unbelievable.. but, at the same time, it's one of the few 'elites' I've ran so far that I enjoy.. at this point (before trying many many new clones in veg/flower) she's a top 5 over here..
I only used PG13 as a comparo as she was grown in the same table and harvested at the same time. dried and cured the same aswell.. I would normally compare a 'real' chem to something like Bubba/ECSD but this clone couldn't even touch those 2 with a 10 foot meristem..
I hope we can get to the bottom of this, that was my only motive for this thread.. to nip any confusion in the but.. I know of at least 4-5 people on IC alone with 'O's Chem D' cut, this is for those people, before they pass it on as the real deal..
Another clone we got with O's D is G13xBurmese... now that plant blew the 'chem' away in pretty much every way, but it's still not a keeper for my friend..
sorry if i missed any questions/points.. if i did please repost them after this and i will try to answer any and all questions..
Anyways, sorry I haven't been around, as H&L said I've been up to my ears in breeding of a non cannabis nature..
My 1st post still sums up my feelings pretty good.. still looking for a definative answer, and hoping to see others who have grown the 'O' cut to chime in...
JJNYC (or was it Pdub, sorry, long thread) i agree about the 'O' thing, and i'm not trying to add any new monikers to further the confusion.. I also agree that stuff shouldn't be passed unless they're 1st verified, but it doesn't always work out that way.. And as others mentioned danko did 'verify' it was CD D.. i just wasn't convinced by what my friend and I were seeing and wanted to dbl check before simply calling it Chemdawg D.. In a way I was doing it to prevent confusion.. as soon as it's verified one way or the other i certainly won't be callin' it O's...
Mysta, i sure hope yer drive was worth it, and i do look forward to other reports on this cut so please keep us informed...
MysterX, i apreciate u askin' chemdog bout this sitch, and apreciate the info.. Altho I'm quite doubtful this is '91 or even related to any of the dawgs.. but maybe I've/we've hyped the dawgs up a lil too much in our minds (me and my friend).. cause we're expecting something that would make you wanna cull ECSD or something.. if you know what i mean..
I'm still not thoroughly convinced that it's even related to the fam because.... I mean, my boy would rather have Choc Trip, Genius, A11, SPG back (recently culled) than run this cut again..
I realize they can be a bit picky, but he treated her like a princess, and she never tipped out/burned/clawed.. she wasn't stretching from any enviromental conditions, she was jus a very tall and fast stretchin' gal..
1969 was right about PG13, in all ways.. It's good, but not unbelievable.. but, at the same time, it's one of the few 'elites' I've ran so far that I enjoy.. at this point (before trying many many new clones in veg/flower) she's a top 5 over here..
I only used PG13 as a comparo as she was grown in the same table and harvested at the same time. dried and cured the same aswell.. I would normally compare a 'real' chem to something like Bubba/ECSD but this clone couldn't even touch those 2 with a 10 foot meristem..
I hope we can get to the bottom of this, that was my only motive for this thread.. to nip any confusion in the but.. I know of at least 4-5 people on IC alone with 'O's Chem D' cut, this is for those people, before they pass it on as the real deal..
Another clone we got with O's D is G13xBurmese... now that plant blew the 'chem' away in pretty much every way, but it's still not a keeper for my friend..
sorry if i missed any questions/points.. if i did please repost them after this and i will try to answer any and all questions..
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damn, sure doesnt sound like what i've heard about chemdawg d. i feel bad for the people with o's cut, sucks to be let down on something you've been searching out for awhile.
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excellent thread BC, lotta good info on the Chems, even with some BS, was great to see JJ, Pbud and RudeD stop in
these chem cuts are a bit Slow No?
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these chem cuts are a bit Slow No?
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cbf- is your #4 slow? she's one of the most vigorous i have, the d is definately a bit back from her. maybe its because you've been growing all those hazes, lol.
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both seem to be, rooted weeks ago and still little buggers with just a few new nodes. look real good though. were quick to root, and all made it.
im still months out from seein a finished bud
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im still months out from seein a finished bud
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thats really odd man. my d was very slow after it rooted actually. it took a long time to get going but when i recieved the #4 she took off immediately. the #4 grows pretty aggressively and loves to be pruned. hopefully they'll pick up for you soon man!
you have the patience of a saint waiting 5 months for finished buds.
you have the patience of a saint waiting 5 months for finished buds.
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bean like i said though before chem was told the wipped out the entire stock of cut adn mothers cause the weed was crap in their opinon. so im guessing after they killed and lost it is when they realized it was grower error and they ahd a gem on hand... i dunno but those pics are nothing like chemdawg d . thats a fact. now smokey i got something for those pics in about 4 weeks. lol
thanks H&L/CBF 
hope you guys enjoy yer chems 
I hear ya MysterX, i have more space than my friend, and perhaps more patience, so I am still holding O's cut, and will do a complete pictoral from veg to flower, in this thread maybe..
I have a bunch of veg pics, and some early flower pics my friend sent me.. let me find em and upload em..
then i'll start with mine.. I have 1 cut veggin up.. it was pretty hurtin from it's 6 day trip, so it's taken a while to recover, and is still fairly small but healthy and on it's way, takin' off..
I'll give it all the love it needs and it should be grown well enough.. Then i'll find someone who has smoked '91 before and get some samples to them.. all I can really do..
Altho I would be suprised, as that would mean the other chems are much better tasting/smelling than the '91..
is #4 better than '91?
thanks for the info, not too many have smoked all..
hope you guys enjoy yer chems I hear ya MysterX, i have more space than my friend, and perhaps more patience, so I am still holding O's cut, and will do a complete pictoral from veg to flower, in this thread maybe..
I have a bunch of veg pics, and some early flower pics my friend sent me.. let me find em and upload em..
then i'll start with mine.. I have 1 cut veggin up.. it was pretty hurtin from it's 6 day trip, so it's taken a while to recover, and is still fairly small but healthy and on it's way, takin' off..
I'll give it all the love it needs and it should be grown well enough.. Then i'll find someone who has smoked '91 before and get some samples to them.. all I can really do..
Altho I would be suprised, as that would mean the other chems are much better tasting/smelling than the '91..
is #4 better than '91?
thanks for the info, not too many have smoked all..
Great read BC, The #4 cut would be more vigorous it was germed last summer. The d is already ten years old and the 91' cut is ??
I would love to try the other ones but the d is terrific enough. Also no one mentions the Sister which is very potent bud in it's own right. would be a top keeper in anyones garden But it's not as potent as the d. And yeilds terribly. Hey BC do a second run and then we'll know for sure.
I would love to try the other ones but the d is terrific enough. Also no one mentions the Sister which is very potent bud in it's own right. would be a top keeper in anyones garden But it's not as potent as the d. And yeilds terribly. Hey BC do a second run and then we'll know for sure.
A 2nd run will be done smokey, no point nursin' cuts thru 3 weeks of rooting and a couple weeks of veg for nothing..
but, happily i found and had more pics of my buddy's plant than i had thought, some decent ones..
K, here's the original cut from O after being rooted and likely vegged for about a week or more, as the cuts were quite tiny (barely big enough for the ez/aero clones):
Then the same cut in the E&F table with a table of PG13 and Afgooey next to it.. This is at 25 days of 12-12, essentialy right when stretch was done..
45 days of 12-12:
And then here's a few pics of one of the clones grown in soil/soiless:
but, happily i found and had more pics of my buddy's plant than i had thought, some decent ones..
K, here's the original cut from O after being rooted and likely vegged for about a week or more, as the cuts were quite tiny (barely big enough for the ez/aero clones):
Then the same cut in the E&F table with a table of PG13 and Afgooey next to it.. This is at 25 days of 12-12, essentialy right when stretch was done..
45 days of 12-12:
And then here's a few pics of one of the clones grown in soil/soiless:
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Thanks bean I hope she turns out also. There are a lot of good peeps here on IC so if this is not it Im sure it wont be long before im doing my c13 full of D. Ill post some pics soon. Still no one says really how to grow the chems si Ill give it a run in the good ol moonshinemix. Great thread there are all top notch peeps giving there 411 with no arguments and ..........not that many trolls. Keep er green ICers
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