Chanting Growers Group

[Bonzo]

Ya know Babba i was in the store the other day and the checker was nice enough, a little rough around the edges, but what i noticed was that she didnt smile AT ALL! So i made it a point to smile the whole time she was checking me out and still not even the slightest of smiles. Now i know that she could be going through some sort a very hard time so i didnt push too hard but i did say "smile, beleive it or not you could change the world by making someone else smile and not even know it" Now maybe i was feelin a lil crazy at the time but when i asked her to smile she did so allmost like she was waiting for someone to ask her to do so, when she smiled her face lit up like a Roman candle, it was cool. I wondered and still do how the rest of her day went?

Just thought i would share that with everyone.

peace

bonz







>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nam myoho renge kyo!!!!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[PassTheDoobie]

Ya dudes. On a bunch of pills including antibiotics and extra rest each day as I can get it. Got Bronchitis a couple steps shy of walking pneumonia. I have a serous energy challenge right now with the kids and such. Life goes on, right? Nothing stops because you feel incapcitated.

Birth, Old Age, Sickness and Death. Fuck it. The Saha World is rockin' no matter what phase of life you're in. It's the place to be! I am so happy to be here!

Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

 

[EasyMyohoDisco]

Keep Keeping ON!

Keep Keeping ON!

Been drained, job security reached a new low in my office, been running around ragged and I was very ill for the last ten days, and YES, we're still jamming!

Holding/Hosting chanting meetings in your house keeps you encouraged, protected and revs up that self-reliant faith supporting others, plus makes others have a place to hang for a bit and feel good somewhere else, then you can take all that good and live your life like your having a great meeting at your house and your all smiles and any obstacle is encouragement towards realizing your goal, I am holding a meeting for the chanting growers and theres always a seat open for all of you, its every wednesday from 7-8:30 (every tuesday its a toso), this 4/20 its an all day Chanting Growers Meeting (the party keeps rolling through rain and shine everyday with Nam-myoho-renge-kyo! as the theme), Your/We are all manifestations of Gohonzon OUR BUDDHAHOOD! and I sincerely see alot of good and bad out there- clearly its a struggle to retain yourself and master the domain of your mind, keep chanting, keep supporting kosen-rufu and your family, friends, fellow partners in world-wide propagation of The Mystic Law of Cause and Effect and ohhh yeah Fulfill your mission and live in haramony with the WONDERFUL LAW of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO! IS THE PHRASE THAT PAYS!

A big hug for all and a salute to my friends entrenched in kosen-rufu, have no fear when the persecution is near, if your faith is there YOUR ALREADY IN THE CLEAR!

talk to you soon,
easyDISCO *riding out to the tune of Desperado*

 

[Babbabud]

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Wooohooooo Easy way to keep the faith Great to hear you turn directly to the Gohonzon when things begin to appear like it could get tough. Its great to have spent enough time with our Gohonzons that we know exactly where to go and what to do Keep the faith brother and sister it can only go up from here Chant for all mankind!!!
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

 

[Babbabud]

Big "T" take your meds and get lots of rest. Ill be chanting for all you guys...we can only go forward from here !!!!!!
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!!

 

[SoCal Hippy]

Don't be afraid.
Don't be defeated
Faith
Victory of Gold

 

[SoCal Hippy]

The Buddha's Struggle Never Ceases For an Instant

The Buddha's Struggle Never Ceases For an Instant

The Buddha's Struggle Never Ceases For an Instant

I sho shujo. U shuju sho. Shuju yoku. Shuju gyo. Shuju oku-so. Fun-bek^ko. Yoku ryo sho sho zengon. I nyakkan innen. Hiyu gonji. Shuju seppo. Shosa butsu-ji. Mi zo zan pai.

"Because living beings have different natures, different desires, different actions, and different ways of thinking and making distinctions, and because I want to enable them to put down good roots, I employ a variety of causes and conditions, similes, parables, and phrases and preach different doctrines. This, the Buddha's work, I have never for a moment neglected." (LS-16, 226)
The Buddha Vows To Lead All People to Enlightenment

This passage explains the Buddha's wisdom to benefit others. This is the Buddha's compassionate vow not to allow even a single person to fall behind or slip by the wayside.

The wisdom of the Buddha who perfectly perceives the true aspect of the threefold world is the "eye of mercy" to warmly watch over all people without discrimination. It is also the "eye of democracy" to respect the individuality of each person.

The Buddha who attained enlightenment in the remote past conducts heart-to-heart dialogue with individuals. Because his life is eternal, the Buddha may appear in any time or place.

Therefore, the Buddha never desists in struggling sincerely to lead all people to happiness. Without resting, the Buddha continuously racks his mind and takes action to relieve people of their sufferings. This passage clarifies that the Buddha has ceaselessly continued taking compassionate action, from the remote past to the present.

Those needing to be saved are innumerable, and they are highly individual and unique. Therefore, the Buddha dedicated to their salvation possesses a long life span, deep wisdom and immeasurable benefit.

Because the Buddha's struggles for others are boundless, the Buddha's benefit is immeasurable. Tremendous life force --- of a kind that those who take action only for themselves definitely cannot understand-wells forth in the Buddha's being.

"Living beings," Shakyamuni notes, "have different natures, different desires, different actions, and different ways of thinking and making distinctions." In one scripture, Shakyamuni employs a beautiful metaphor to describe people's widely varying capacities: "Some lotus flowers are blue, some are red and some are white. Some blossom under water, some reach the water's surface, and some stand up out of the water."

People vary in capacity and temperament. This is natural; it is reality. Such variety is proof of life. If people were all the same, they would be robots.

The Buddha highly respects these differences, this variety. A hundred people will have a hundred different joys. A thousand people will have a thousand unique sufferings. The Buddha regards the various sufferings of all people as his own. Therefore, the Buddha, possessing an accurate grasp of each person's unique disposition and desires, employs a variety of metaphors and words in expounding his teaching. And he raises people so that, ultimately, they can all attain the capacity to hear the teaching of the one Buddha vehicle.

In Shakyamuni's day, for example, there was a follower named Shuddhipanthaka. Shuddhipanthaka had a poor memory and, as a consequence, was unable to satisfactorily carry out the Buddhist practice of his peers. The time came when even his elder brother told him: "No matter how much you practice, it's no good. Go on home!"

Having been thus rebuked, Shuddhipanthaka, feeling very dejected, took his leave. Someone then approached him. It was Shakyamuni. The Buddha gently took Shuddhipanthaka by the hand and led him back. Shakyamuni then handed him a cloth used as a doormat. Shuddhipanthaka, too, was covered with dust. Shakyamuni told him, "Try to imagine this dusty rag as something clean."

There is in Buddhism a teaching that one should not be caught up with such external distinctions as "clean" or "unclean." True cleanliness, it teaches, exists only in the heart. Shuddhipanthaka could not understand Buddhism on a theoretical level; however, he had been so touched by Shakyamuni's compassion that by merely looking upon the mat that he associated with his mentor's kindness, he could maintain in his mind the thought "the doormat is pure." As a result, his practice became joyful, and he eventually became a leading disciple possessing the pure divine eye.

The Buddha definitely will not abandon anyone. Though everyone else might abandon others, the Buddha freely manifests his wisdom and saves each person.

"I employ a variety of causes and conditions, similes, parables, and phrases and preach different doctrines" means that the Buddha is a master at dialogue and an expert at discussion. The German philosopher Karl Jaspers (1883-1969) characterized Shakyamuni as one who freely employed verbal communication. Indeed, the Buddha expounds teachings with seamless freedom and saves all people with the resonance of his conviction.

The objective of the Buddha's dialogue is to enable people to "put down good roots" in their lives. The ultimate cause that can enable all people equally to attain happiness, therefore, is none other than Nam-myoho-renge-kyo.

Faith in the Mystic Law is the greatest good cause. Teaching people about the Mystic Law constitutes the Buddha's supreme conduct. Accordingly, to teach friends about the Mystic Law is truly to carry out the Buddha's work.
A Person of Dynamic Action

In this sutra passage, Shakyamuni says, "I have never for a moment neglected," to describe the Buddha's actions. In other words, he has continued carrying out the Buddha's work without ceasing for even an instant. The Buddha is a stranger to rest. He will not desist until he has eradicated misery from the face of the earth.

Shakyamuni says: "Day and night, I have not a moment of regret. Even while sleeping, my heart is filled with the desire to save all people."

Therefore, so long as one individual needs to be liberated from suffering-even if that person is at the furthest end of the earth-the Buddha will continue advancing. Shakyamuni visited countless towns and villages to spread his teaching. According to research, he visited the kingdom of Shravasti more than 900 times. Also, records of his travels indicate that he visited Rajagriha in the capital of the kingdom of Magadha more than 120 times; that he visited Vaishali, the capital of the kingdom of Vriji, 49 times; that he visited Kapilavastu, where he grew up, 31 times; and that he visited the kingdom of Kaushambi 19 times.

Each of these sites was separated by hundreds of miles. And, of course, walking was the only mode of transportation available. In his final propagation tour immediately before his death, he covered as much as 400 miles. It seems to me likely that the Buddha's example, as this record of his travels well illustrates, in "never for a moment neglecting the Buddha's work" enabled his disciples to sense just how tremendous it is to be alive.

In general, Buddhism is viewed as a static religion, epitomized by the image of a meditating or a sitting Buddha. But the actual Shakyamuni was quite different. The true image of Shakyamuni is that of a dynamic walking Buddha, an active Buddha.

The Buddha is another name for a person of unceasing struggle. The Buddha continuously takes action to construct happiness for people, and to liberate people from all kinds of authority. "I have never for a moment neglected" describes this aspect of dynamic action and struggle.

Nichiren Daishonin, too, led a life of "never for a moment neglecting the Buddha's work." He surpassed even Shakyamuni in his capacity to propagate the teaching while enduring difficulties.

From the time he majestically proclaimed Nam-myoho-renge-kyo to the entire world in 1253, the Daishonin continued to struggle without rest for the happiness and peace of all people. His persecution at the hands of the authorities grew particularly severe after he produced his letter of remonstration, the "Rissho Ankoku Ron" (On Securing the Peace of the Land Through the Propagation of True Buddhism) in 1260.

The Daishonin was assailed by repeated storms of persecution. These included the Matsubagayatsu Persecution (1260), the Izu Exile (1261-63), the Komatsubara Persecution (1264), the Tatsunokuchi Persecution (1271) and the Sado Exile (1271-74). Yet, no matter how great the difficulties he encountered, the Daishonin says that he "never once felt inclined to retreat" (Gosho Zenshu, p. 1224). "The battle goes on even today" (MW-1, 101), he calmly states.

Even in his latter years at Mount Minobu, his life was anything but suggestive of retirement. While dwelling in a crude hut, he continued to energetically lecture his disciples on the Lotus Sutra and other teachings.

With fiery words, he took on the arrogant authorities and religious figures who were leading the people astray. At the same time, he continued to send a stream of warm encouragement to those plunged in suffering. One scholar goes so far as to characterize these letters, in view of their sheer volume, as a "global record."

Certainly, the Daishonin carried out the Buddha's work unceasingly; he never for a moment neglected the Buddha's work. "From the time that I was born until today," he says, "I, Nichiren, have never known a moment's ease" (MW-2, 257 [2nd ed., 305]).

And that is not all. The Daishonin inscribed the Gohonzon and eternalized the practice of immense compassion. He opened the path for the salvation of all people of the 10,000 years of the Latter Day of the Law. The Daishonin says, "If Nichiren's compassion is truly great and encompassing, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo will spread for ten thousand years and more, for all eternity" (MW-4, 272). There is no greater example of someone never for a moment neglecting the Buddha's work. How fortunate we are, indeed!

Regarding the passage "I have never for a moment neglected," Josei Toda, the second Soka Gakkai president, once said in a humorous vein, "While we have our Sundays, there is no such thing as a Sunday for the Gohonzon. It would be really inconvenient if the Gohonzon were to say to us, 'I'm taking today off.' Or if we were to develop a stomachache at night and go to chant to the Gohonzon, but found that the Gohonzon was sleeping and would not wake up."

He also remarked, "It is only natural that people such as ourselves should spend an hour or two a day working for others. Even so. our efforts amount to no more than a hundred-millionth or a quadrillionth of the work of the Buddha. Looking at things in this light we cannot help but try harder."

When setting off to attend a meeting or give guidance, 'President Toda often repeated to himself the phrase, "I have never for a moment neglected." Even if he was fatigued or physically weak, he would go out all the same, saying, "Since the Buddha never for a moment neglected his work, I, having dedicated my life to this mission, must also do my best." I can still hear his words ringing out.

My attitude is the same. As a follower of Nichiren Daishonin and as a disciple of Josei Toda, I have prayed and taken action for kosen-rufu without rest.

Buddhism is a practice of assiduity. It is because this spirit of "never for a moment neglecting the Buddha's work" exists in the Soka Gakkai that we have realized our present great development. There is no standing still for leaders of kosen-rufu.

That said, leaders should not unreasonably push members when they are fatigued or in need of rest. The secret of "never for a moment neglecting the Buddha's work" is to help people conduct themselves in a value-creating, rhythmical and joyful manner. Again, leaders should always think about and earnestly consider what they can do to make it possible for everyone to advance with burning hope. This single-minded determination is comparable to the Buddha's attitude in "never for a moment neglecting the Buddha's work."

Let us struggle forward not anxiously, but with composure. What does "I have never for a moment neglected" mean for us? It is to always struggle courageously and in high spirits. No matter what waves or adverse winds we encounter, we should stand up to face them with a fighting spirit. Doing so accords with this passage.

Having such a spirit directs our lives toward health and longevity. "I will fulfill my mission for the sake of others and for society." When we so determine, we are living the eternal way of the Buddha as characterized by the words "I have never for a moment neglected" in the "Life Span" chapter.

from Daisaku Ikeda's Lectures on the Lotus Sutra

 

[southwind]

waking

waking

Today we have grace.

As a product of western civilisation I used to only look at what I SHOULD HAVE NEXT never at what I had.

In this way we are all kept good little consumers and are led to belive that a new car, new bigger boobs, a house , more money ..will make us happy.

So keep working hard, they say, to make more money and buy happiness.

When I thought like that and lived in that way, I can remember very few times that I was happy, and if I was happy it wore off quickly.

Through illness and other things I have left that world and had to look at what really did bring happiness and joy and SOLID THROUGH AND THROUGH serenity, akin to joy.

Mostly it had to do with helping someone else, truly doing something for someone elses benefit.

I found that material things had their place, but only a place, and not anywhere near the top as our culture/media said they did.

I see now those were self serving lies of people who wanted to sell you something.


I was sitting in my garden looking at the flowers that I have tended grow in this garden I built largely for my friend who loves gardens but is too sick to work in them anymore, I built it so they would have a lovely place to be in and meditate.

I was chanting while I sat and a feeling came over me, all around me time seemed to slow, and in a flash EVERYTHING made sense, even things that seem out of kilter or plain bad or evil.

There is nothing unclean or clean right or wrong or good or evil..except in my mind.

all the world is a Gohonzon.

all the world is clean.

I hope all are well and remain undefeated.


sw

 

[EasyMyohoDisco]

My mother has a rare cancer in the blood, we just found out yesterday. I just wanted to post it so that some of you can send some daimoku her way, because I have felt your prayers work for me in the past. We don't know what stage her Multiple Myeloma is in, she had a bone marrow and bone test yesterday to determine that, and I am hopeful that she has accumulated enough good karma and has the faith required to turn this poison into medicine. The old me "without a Buddhist Practice" woulda flipped or acted impulsively on such bad news. Yesterday I was able to share hope and good vibes with her and my sister whom have been suffering very much prior to this diagnosis and I feel that in the near future we will be able to turn over a new leaf and live in peace as we should be. Yesterday was the beginning of that for me, so I was able to immediately see the benefit this terrible disease has had on us from the onset. So I see the benefit in the ailment but I am still kinda shocked and don't know what to do but chant, work and then go home and garden (tonight).

I didn't post the otherday that, I almost lost my job two days ago because I of segregation and racism in the work place, I stood up for myself and challenged a racist bully to fight instead of showing a peaceful expression of compassion and even though I felt I was to be fired last week and survived since my replacements were "no call no show" again shoten zenjin and my faith in The Lotus Sutra and Nichiren Daishonin helped me weather a crazy storm. This person backed down after I called them out because I knew if he could step on me it was just a matter of time before my kindness was mistooken for weakness and I would have disrespected Gohonzon, and I would never let anyone disrespect Gohonzon, no fucking way! Not to mention I'm still sick with seasonal allergies but thankfully no more of that virus I had for almost 2 weeks. So even getting battered by these (figuratively speaking) tsunamis of drama, I still standfast and stand strong upholding The Law and avoiding complicity to slander among avoiding any of the other 14 slanders best I can!

Daimoku in the morning and Daimoku in the evening is really helping me and bringing forth more serenity from the inner reccesses of my life. I am and have been working for the sake of The Law of Cause and Effect for just over a year now and thanks to the great guidance that Thomas has given me from the beginning (through the Daishonin and Presidents Makiguchi, Sensei Toda and President Ikeda, with special appreciation for the impact Mr. Tony Matsuoka and Mr. Ted Osaki have had on him and me) I have been able to use that guidance and apply it to my practice/daily life and really embrace my life for what it really is, and not really succumb so often to the usual devils of drug and alchool addiction and sex addiction that plague my mind from time to time.

Dudes I'm a peaceful-prizefighter and I'm battling to my last breath for kosen-rufu. Count on it!

peace and love,
myohodisco

 

[sackoweed]

Hello folks.
I just thought i would stop by and wish you all a happy happy four2wenty... Have a grreat weekend and be safe and stay high... peace..

sack

 

[EasyMyohoDisco]

I just got fired from my job. Went home to chant and found a great Gosho quote I grabbed and just wanted to share:

"As practice progresses and understanding grows, the three obstacles and the four devils emerge in confusing form, vying with one another to interfere... One should be neither influenced nor frightened by them. If one falls under their influence, one will be led into the paths of evil. If one is frightened by them, one will be prevented from practicing the correction teaching."

Nam-myoho-renge-kyo!

 

[SoCal Hippy]

In Awe

In Awe

Greetings friends,

I am in awe today just reading the most recent posts of Southwind and MyhohoDisco. Both are so powerful in their expressions in faith as it relates to their daily life from the practice of this Buddhism of action. You both blow me away living the life of true 'Votaries of the Lotus Sutra', true Bodhisatvas proving the power of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo. I am honored to know all of you.

Thanks for sharing such moving enlightening experiences today. I am so encouraged!

My prayers are with all the Chanting Growers and their loved ones. Keep chanting till the end.

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

 

[SoCal Hippy]

Milestone

Milestone

PAGE # 400

 

[Babbabud]

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

So fortunate to have such great challenges ahead. Certainly there must be some great enlightenment to be learned from all such challenges. With much daimoku for you all ... we chant for each and everyone of you !!
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!!

 

[EasyMyohoDisco]

Happy 400 Pages, Let's Keep Jamming!

Happy 400 Pages, Let's Keep Jamming!

I went to a study meeting and chanted for a bit during a toso today and it sure did help alot. I haven't felt so lethargic in quite a while but I am learning that a big cause of my recent misfortune has been mistaking confidence for arrogance. Arrogance is as terrible as Devadatta was to Shakymuni, as the evil priests whom persecuted the Daishonin, as those who jailed President Makiguchi and Sensei Toda, Arrogance at its root undermines and disrespects Gohonzon and that is a terrible thing.

We have to always remember:

1) Every person is equally valuable. Even the "Best of the Best" can still grow!

2)Caring for the welfare of others equals fortune and benefit, dedication to your family, friends and fellow sgi members is a great benefit!

3)Your good causes (cause and effect) will impact others because of our Dependant-Interconnectiveness, we are two but not two!

4)Lacking self-confidence is limiting the power of Gohonzon, You and I have a buddhanature no need to think otherwise.

5)Be mindful of: How does Buddhism relate to your daily life? Its not enough to just chant, Action and Dedication goes hand in hand with Faith Practice and Study! Mentor and Disciple- "Perceiving and Manifesting your Buddha nature through applying and growing with guidance from Nichiren Daishonin, Sensei Toda, President Ikeda and Thomas, et al.".

6)Everything has a beneficial aspect, create "set backs" into Victories!

7)Always express your appreciation to Gohonzon and to your friends and comrades in kosen-rufu.

8)Always go forward and be aware of your thoughts and actions.

9)Share you gratitude and seeking spirit with others and be open to learning new things from different people, diversity is found in every aspect of daily life, thus Diversity at its core is Buddhism!

10)Encourage others to be happy, find happiness within your dreams by accomplishing your dreams and never stop dreaming and persuing your goals!

I just wrote these ten points from thoughts I gathered today. They seem practical enough to understand and apply in my life and that is another great benefit of this thread, I can actually articulate my thoughts and use those thoughts to build foundations in my life to branch out into more fruitful directions and tackle the tougher objectives ahead!

Roughest week in many years but I'm standing strong with Daimoku as my Battle Cry, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo! I am the Buddha and I make the benefits!

 

[Babbabud]

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Spent yesterday morning at toso in San Fran doing gongyo and chanting in front of the big Gohonzon. I wish you all the best with your challenges which we are so fortunate to have. Easy im so sure all teh daimoku will work wonders

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

 

[Babbabud]

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

 

[EasyMyohoDisco]

Thanks alot for your support babba, and also to Socal and Bonzo for their kind words and support, I am very fortunate to be practicing with you guys. Today is the first day in a while that I am jobless and I will use this day to get my garden in order and germinate some new stuff, I recently moved into a bigger place so I can grow again and due to work I was not able to get this in motion, then I'll goto the gym and afterwards visit my mother and give her some more encouragement and morale support. Tonight I will do a home visit to a member that I have not chanted with in a couple weeks and should be good for both of us.

I did gongyo this morning and felt like I have been chipping away at my arrogant ways and really seeing the value in my recent struggles because they will make my future victories and triumphs an even greater Gohonzon benefit. I am very close to Gohonzon and all of you since I chant for all of you. Many people chant to be close to Sensei Ikeda, I chant to be close to this thread and to be here to build and support our internet kosen-rufu foundation. Sure isn't easy being scattered around the globe (us Chanting Growers that is) but I tell you, thanks to finding icmag a few years ago and thanks to Thomas and Babba keeping the thread going during the years I would only glance at this thread and thought it was "too holy to post in", I finally found my way back here and began my own lifelong shakubuku campaign which continues everyday with my Dedication To the Mystic Law of Cause and Effect and my eternal mentor Nichiren Daishonin! It is still a struggle to go against the engrained errorneous teachings I used to help me "cope" with this life, now I live the Buddhism of Ichinen Sanzen and its one moment at a time, every moment going forward.

Peace,
MyohoDisco

 

[southwind]

surprises

surprises

Greetings

Well Easy Myoho

I have been laid off6 times in my life and lost many other jobs through illness or other problems.

I fought for years to stay in a career that most of the jobs for were 30 to 40 miles away and sometimes a 4 hour commute one way..problem after problem, sign after sign, the Increate seemed to be puttings obstacles in the way of that career.

I think that happened becuase I was mostly in it for the money. I seldom loved my jobs, I did like working hard, but that is different than loving what you do.


Now I realize it was never for me, and in a big way, it was killing my spirit and my soul..and replacing it with a corporate big consumer machine.

With no soul behind its eyes.

Each time and especially after I became WILLING TO SEE what the Increate or universe was showing me...only then did I start seeing more happiness and serenity.

Although that did not seem to be the career I was meant for the universe still tried to allow some joy to seep into it, by which I mean, almost each time I got laid off or lost a job , the next was bigger better and faster.

If I had kept the old jobs I would never have found the those better ones.

But its next to impossible to see good out of bad when we are going through the bad part right now.

And until the end, its next to impossible to see what exactly was bad or good.

In other words, if we lose a job that we were not that happy with and had other facets we did not like about it, but it pays the bills, then is it bad to lose it?

Well sure it looks that way..what now? what am i gonna do about money?

well then you find another job, lets say its closer to home, more money, better hours, great co workers, great boss..well then was losing the first one so bad..especially if you would have never looked for the new one if you had the old one?


I guess what I am saying is, we can never tell.

Or rather I can never tell, maybe you can.

I wish I had a job to give you right now. But I dont.

But I can say, it WILL CHANGE it WILL get better,

you CAN choose your future.

so choose it well, cuz you have to live there.



sw

 

[bartender187]

Here is an updated backup of this thread.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2ZJJLPG5

I changed my icmag preferences to show 40posts per page... hence there was only 150pgs to backup.

nam myoho renge kyo