CBD x Panama Goddess (F10)

[Kissgardens]

Hi All,

I posted some pictures of my Panama in the Panama thread. I want a place to post some pics of the R&D CBD #1 x Panama Goddess (F10) and CBD #5 x Panama Goddess (F10) but didn't see a thread for them yet.

Today's picture are CBD #1 x Panama Goddess (F10) at the end of week 7.

 

[dubi]

Hi Kissgardens

Thank you very much for your feedback on the new CBD #1 x Panama Goddess fem hybrid, much appreciated
I'm really excited about this new cross, looking great after 7 weeks, looks like she will done under 10 week range flowering time.
Your female looks very close to the black Panama pheno you posted on the Panama thread, isn't ? Curious to know how does she compare with the CBD #5 x Panama cross.

 

[Kissgardens]

Hi Kissgardens

Thank you very much for your feedback on the new CBD #1 x Panama Goddess fem hybrid, much appreciated
I'm really excited about this new cross, looking great after 7 weeks, looks like she will done under 10 week range flowering time.
Your female looks very close to the black Panama pheno you posted on the Panama thread, isn't ? Curious to know how does she compare with the CBD #5 x Panama cross.

I ended up taking the CBD #1 x Panama Goddess to little over 9 weeks. I am hoping to work on getting the harvest photos prepped to post this weekend and post next week.

It has a slight blue/purple tint on the small leafs close to the budsites. The fan leafs stayed green the whole time with a light fade on the lowers to a yellow. Where the Panama fan leafs got VERY dark purple/black. The overall size of the CBD #1 x Panama was shorter (maybe 10-15% shorter) and with bud sites much closer together compared to the Panama which was a bit longer and the bud sites more spread out. The stem on the CBD #1 x Panama was thicker and self supporting where the Panama needed a bit of support around mid flower. The tops on the Panama, which went 3 weeks more in flower, were significantly bigger.

From the seat of the pants feel, this CBD1 x Panama is much more CBD heavy compared to the last CBD1 x Panama I grew. I will note, that last CBD1 x Panama is one of my favorite daytime smokes. Sad, I don't have a cutting and my jar is almost empty. I believe you noted the CBD1 x Panama I grew last year was very Panama Goddess in the appearance so assuming the effects are more tied to the Panama Goddess side. I need to find a place for testing to get some better info. As my two CBD1 x Panamas were grown at different times, conditions, styles. The height on them where pretty similar.

I will work on writing up some details about the CBD5 x Panama and prepping the pictures. The summary would be of the 3 from this last grow (CBD5 x Panama, CBD1 x Panama, and Panama), CBD5 x Panama was the tallest (probably 10-15% taller than the Panama and ~25% taller than CBD1 x Panama) and thinnest stems with less bud sites but the tops where HUGE. It went 11 weeks and was a breeze to trim.

 

[dubi]

Hi Kissgardens,

Your notes on the 3 different strains are much appreciated, and accurate Glad you are enjoying with the results
Your are right, CBD # 5 has very thin stems so you can expect thinner stems also in the CBD #5 x Panama cross although Panama Goddess will help a bit to improve CBD #5 lankiness. Thanks again.

 

[Kissgardens]

Hi Kissgardens,

Your notes on the 3 different strains are much appreciated, and accurate Glad you are enjoying with the results
Your are right, CBD # 5 has very thin stems so you can expect thinner stems also in the CBD #5 x Panama cross although Panama Goddess will help a bit to improve CBD #5 lankiness. Thanks again.

Happy to provide some notes. I am still working on improving what notes I document so if there is anything else you would like to see in the future, let me know.

Here are the CBD1 x Panama at harvest time. The sparkle on those lowers was fantastic . When I was looking over my pictures from harvest day, I started questioning why I even harvested. It looks like it was about to do the Panama 3rd reflowering. I think I shorted myself a bit.

Anyways, here are the photos. I need to figure out how to post better resolution photos here. Seems like it takes my big photos and shrinks it down a bunch.

I will start working on posting the CBD5 x Panama next week.

 

[Kijell]

Wow what a beauty! Nice job mate

 

[Kissgardens]

Wow what a beauty! Nice job mate

Thanks, been super happy with all the genetics Dubi and company have been releasing. As I will keep the tops for smoking, more excited for making lotions and edibles with the rest of the plant.

 

[dubi]

Thanks Kissgardens The CBD #1 x Panama in the pics looks enough ripe to me.
I'm wondering whether those black colors on your Panama and CBD x Panama are enhanced by your type of lamp. Are you using LEDs ?

 

[Kissgardens]

Thanks Kissgardens The CBD #1 x Panama in the pics looks enough ripe to me.
I'm wondering whether those black colors on your Panama and CBD x Panama are enhanced by your type of lamp. Are you using LEDs ?

Assuming you are referencing for growing, but I will put the details about taking photos just in case.

For taking a photo, it wasn't until late June that I got some supplemental little LED panels for taking photos. They are 5600K. I know, for sure, I didn't use them for the week 7 photos. I don't recall if I had them in time for the week 9 photos. I think before I got the lights for taking photos it was making everything look a bit darker than actual. Thus, why I wanted to get them.

For growing, they where under Vero29 3500k cobs. There would have been some side lighting coming from an old (~2012) 3 watt per diode LED panel. I forgot the details on that one but just retired it for a Vero29 3000k cob for that half of the tent.

Here is a different CBD #1 x Panama that is outside soaking in bright light in the sky in a small 15 gallon container..

 

[dubi]

Thnaks for the info Kissgardens Glad to see you have another CBD #1 x Panama female growing outdoors, should be interesting to compare the results vs indoors.
And curious to learn more about your results with the CBD # 5 x Panama!

 

[Kissgardens]

Thnaks for the info Kissgardens Glad to see you have another CBD #1 x Panama female growing outdoors, should be interesting to compare the results vs indoors.
And curious to learn more about your results with the CBD # 5 x Panama!

Hi Dubi,

I am pretty excited to see the comparison of outdoor vs indoor. I am hoping for a decent harvest for only having 15 gallon containers so I can make a bunch of salve with it. I use salves a bunch on my arthritic hand.

I was thinking about your correlation between the lights and the dark colors I get. I also wonder if the color coming out could also be the temperature that I run the room at? I would say the tops close to the light are around 26-29c but down towards the soil I am guessing (keep my temp gauge by the light) is 18-21c during lights on. During lights out, the tent gets down to 15-18. However, as you will see from the CBD #5 x Panama she stayed nice and green. I also ran a Bangi Haze in a 1 gallon container during that same time and she also stayed very green.

The CBD #5 x Panama, from the day the seed was put into soil (the only step I do for germination) to the day she was moved into flower was 6 weeks. She was kept in small containers during veg. The day she moved to flower, she where transferred to a ~5 gallon/1cf sip's. This is the same for CBD #1 x Panama and Panama.

I will start a new thread on my current flower girls, I have a tropical mix and a Panama x Bangi Haze. However, the tropical mix will be harder to photograph as she got VERY big very fast once she moved to the flower tent.

 

[dubi]

Then sounds like the intense colors on your Panama and CBD #1 x Panama were not induced by cold temps, probably colors were pheno dependant more than anything.

Curious to know your opinion on the differnces regarding terpenes and effects between Panama, CBD #1 x Panama and cbd #5 x Panama.

Best wishes with the flowering of your current Tropical Mix and Panama x Bangi Haze

 

[Kissgardens]

Then sounds like the intense colors on your Panama and CBD #1 x Panama were not induced by cold temps, probably colors were pheno dependant more than anything.

Curious to know your opinion on the differnces regarding terpenes and effects between Panama, CBD #1 x Panama and cbd #5 x Panama.

Best wishes with the flowering of your current Tropical Mix and Panama x Bangi Haze

cbd #5 x Panama:
Effects:
I will start by saying, this was the only flower I brought for a 2 day 20+ mile backpacking adventure in a high alpine environment. She has a tame high but still provides plenty of head focus, energy, and helps tone down any pains my body might be experiencing. Almost zero energy drain after a few hours or at least can be countered by a few more puffs. Even if someone didn't want the fantastic CBD effects, I think this would be a great strain for people who wanted to dip their toes into consuming sativas/nld.

Terpenes:
There is some lemon in there for sure. However, there is something else that I have yet to figure out. I wouldn't call it gas though. Maybe clove? I dunno, let me sample more and see if it ever clicks.

cbd #1 x Panama:
Effects:
A touch of a body high that is relaxing without the cerebral effects. However, not couch lock by any means. This jar has got the least amount of love. I mainly been dipping my hands into the Panama and the CBD5 x Panama jars. I'll provide some more feedback after I have sampled some more. It is a hard life but someone has to do it.

Terpenes:
I will have to comment more later on the terps. I don't recall any lemon but don't really recall what it smells like. I will open up a jar tonight and finish this section.

 

[dubi]

Glad to hear you are enjoying with the flowers of your harvest Your feedback on the new CBD x Panama hybrids is much appreciated.

CBD # 5 mother is no longer alive so this hybrid cannot be replicated in seed form any more as a F1 hybrid, so keep clones of her if you like it so much!

 

[Kissgardens]

Glad to hear you are enjoying with the flowers of your harvest Your feedback on the new CBD x Panama hybrids is much appreciated.

CBD # 5 mother is no longer alive so this hybrid cannot be replicated in seed form any more as a F1 hybrid, so keep clones of her if you like it so much!

I ended up giving my last cbd5 x Panama to a friend who has been making salves. I took a cutting before I gave it away but was trying a new cloning approach and well, it needs some tweaking and that clone didn't last. I think I have a few more seeds though.

I am excited for the outdoor CBD1 x Panama. The 10 day on the weather is looking great and hoping to harvest it mid October.

 

[dubi]

I'm enjoying the very last 'pure' CBD # 5 flowers here in my afternoons
She has a lovely sweet floral Skunk/Haze taste with a slight incense touch in the air, great CBD effect with the optimistic sativa feeling.

Would like to explore the CBD #5 x Panama cross in more depth at some point, since the CBD #5 mother had very weak bearing
and i think Panama will help to improve her structure a lot, and enhance the incensey terpenes too.

Please, keep us updated with your outdoor CBD#1 x Panama when you have the chance.