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CBD from hemp = CBD from cannabis?
- Thread starter BakedApe
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CBD is CBD just like THC is THC and it doesn't matter which source one gets them from. There are variables in chemical blends but not isolated chemistry.
Old Piney
Well-known member
So this might be the confusion, there are hemp seed oil extracts marketed for pain and inflammation. However, these contain no CBD.. hemp seed oil has been shown to have some anti-inflammatory properties .Also a peeve I have is that CBD Drug strain cannabis is leagaly defined and commonly marketed as “industrial hemp “ .In my opinion hemp is cannabis used to produce fiber or seed regardless of it's chemotype specifically how much THC it produces. Hemp is cannabis all this aside and all cannabis seeds contain no CBD or THC
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EnjoyingLife
Well-known member
I've read that cannabis will have more CBD than hemp when looking at it at from a parts per million standpoint but don't remember where so it could be bro science or just false in all regards.
Old Piney
Well-known member
Again Hemp is cannabis no matter how you define it. The only difference is it's use and perhaps legally now it's chemical make up. It's the same plant. A small ( or large ) amount of THC is said to improve the effect of the CBD .This is referred as the entourage effect and is the way that all the cannabinoids and terpenes work together to be more effective than any one of the alone
EnjoyingLife
Well-known member
Very true
Digit
Active member
First thought was, same.
Second thought was an anecdote of someone saying "marijuana" is different to cannabis, and them being corrected on the biology and political history of the renaming.
Third thought was I don't need to answer, since first reply nailed it.
Fourth thought, ah, but... what differences between industrial hemp fields and more tended ganja grows, in fertilisation and growing medium nutrients causing what toxic taint, for full spectrum, sure, but then even isolates are not 100% (it gets expensive to push into 99.99%, 99.999%...), so, perhaps there may be a smidgen of a difference in that regard.
Then, fifth thought, some kind of psychic quantum imprint from people's expectations, perceptions, prejudices...?
Sixth thought, despite those two areas (my fourth and fifth thoughts), it's worth pointing out again, in practical purposes, CBD from cannabis grown industrially for hemp is same as CBD from cannabis grown for cannabinoids and whatnot.
[7th thought extending 6th]... Though if going full spectrum, rather than isolate... industrial will likely come from fermion12 or similar varieties. Proper ganja varieties, are far more numerous and nuanced, even among the CBD focused varieties, which would provide different chemovar profiles, with different levels of each actives whichever extraction method used managed to catch.
Second thought was an anecdote of someone saying "marijuana" is different to cannabis, and them being corrected on the biology and political history of the renaming.
Third thought was I don't need to answer, since first reply nailed it.
Fourth thought, ah, but... what differences between industrial hemp fields and more tended ganja grows, in fertilisation and growing medium nutrients causing what toxic taint, for full spectrum, sure, but then even isolates are not 100% (it gets expensive to push into 99.99%, 99.999%...), so, perhaps there may be a smidgen of a difference in that regard.
Then, fifth thought, some kind of psychic quantum imprint from people's expectations, perceptions, prejudices...?
Sixth thought, despite those two areas (my fourth and fifth thoughts), it's worth pointing out again, in practical purposes, CBD from cannabis grown industrially for hemp is same as CBD from cannabis grown for cannabinoids and whatnot.
[7th thought extending 6th]... Though if going full spectrum, rather than isolate... industrial will likely come from fermion12 or similar varieties. Proper ganja varieties, are far more numerous and nuanced, even among the CBD focused varieties, which would provide different chemovar profiles, with different levels of each actives whichever extraction method used managed to catch.
Leolanlan
Active member
Hi, I heard Schott Blakey (Shanti Baba), on a podcast, explaining that to achieve proper CBD extract on large scale, you need to grow a shit load of biomass, due to concentration (%), main difference with drug type cultivars, farming speaking. Whatever the cultivar (hemp, etc)
revegeta666
Not ICMag Donor
Hey man, do you remember what podcast and episode that was? I am just getting into making CBD products and I would be interested in hearing what he has to say.
revegeta666
Not ICMag Donor
Ah ok thanks I am subscribed but I have missed a few episodes
Old Piney
Well-known member
I'm either misunderstanding this or I disagree. CBD cultivars now have from 8 to 20% CBD. Granted to produce any kind of cannabis extract or concentrate on a large scale you must grow a lot of plants. What's the difference? CBD is a drug
Leolanlan
Active member
Well I am not a hemp farmer, only a landscaper and homegrower. Schott runs an international cannabis multi spot cannabis operation & business in medicinal and recreational…better ask the lad straight up…
goingrey
Well-known member
A lot of those might be too hot to grow legally (the limit is 0.3% THC in USA/EU for example).
Old Piney
Well-known member
No I'm talking about certified legal “Hemp “ strains .As I understand it ,just about any CBD strain has the potential to spike just a bit over that .3% limit. That's why they have to be monitored. It's all just silly .3% won't get you high but .4% will? But I suppose they have to set the limit somewhere.
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goingrey
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I see what you mean. But, in fact, they do not! There does not need to be any limit, it should all be legal.
Ca++
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Cannabinoids such as CBD and THC can be produced by engineered yeast now, amongst other things.
The future of production isn't huge greenhouses that use lots of electric. Medical users will likely loose access to plant based Cannabinoids, when they can be made with so much less damage to the planet. CO2 targets need to be met, and when 3% of Cali's power generation is growing plants, it's an easy and effective target. One that really has no argument to continue.
Recreational use is a bit different, but we have seen smoking turn to vaping. Both for green and tobacco. So how will buying green look, beside much cheaper extracts. Then how will the tax man react, when he can say high green tax is to save the planet, and we can get stoned some other way.
Sorry.. I should of stopped at yeast.
The future of production isn't huge greenhouses that use lots of electric. Medical users will likely loose access to plant based Cannabinoids, when they can be made with so much less damage to the planet. CO2 targets need to be met, and when 3% of Cali's power generation is growing plants, it's an easy and effective target. One that really has no argument to continue.
Recreational use is a bit different, but we have seen smoking turn to vaping. Both for green and tobacco. So how will buying green look, beside much cheaper extracts. Then how will the tax man react, when he can say high green tax is to save the planet, and we can get stoned some other way.
Sorry.. I should of stopped at yeast.
