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Can't seem to find exactly what's wrong?!Help!

Dakine

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So long story short, I adopted these plants 2 Weeks ago. They where root bound badly, had some type of insect infestation, where nutrient deficient. When I got them they where also 1 1/2 to 2 weeks back into Vegging hours, after an unknown time flowering outside..

I thought these plants had a nitrogen and calcium problem, and being root bound where the only problems besides the insects..

1 of the plants had ugly looking outside dirt/soil being used, and the other had decent looking soil mix with some perlite in it. My friend said the junk looking soil was good because it was from his compost pile then thrown into a red worm bin.
When I replanted them I used my friends "Dirt"/Soil Lol for the plant that already had it and my quick Soil mix I started 2 weeks prior for the other. Black and Gold Potting Soil Nitro-0.13%,Phos-0.04%, soluble potash-0.14% mainly contains 50% Sphagnum PEAT Moss,Comp Pine Bark, and worm castings and I put perlite. I also added only 1 Tblspn of molasses into some water before covering the soil up and putting it outside.

I also added in some bat guano to give them some nitrogen.

I made A Onion/molasses/cinnamon stick Foliar Spray to combat the pest. So far I think there's been black spider mites, a little bit of red ants because the plants where outside, A black/dark purple looking small bug that looks like it flies but doesn't, and A bug that looks like a lady bug but it attaches itself to the main stalk only where nodes are and will literally chew a hole through. There hard to get off unless u have something the shape of a knife. It looks like a bunch of microscopic hairs lining the inside of this dome thing but it's actually a shit ton of small bugs.

There's no more red ants and less of everything else but there still there so it's hard for me to completely diagnos the problems..

I have the plants under 21/3 lighting. Water every other day with plain tap water and once a week a mix of water/molasses mix I have brewing.

I have a new Log thread a mod moved into not the right sub forum that has some pics of when I first got the plants. I'll be putting the link I my signature when I get home to my computer.

I'll post pics of them currently in the next post but wanted to post this incase something messes up. The reason for all the above info is so you understand what these plants have been going through. I notice a lot of people ask questions and expect everyone to be magical Gurus and solve their problems with out info.

I'll get to the pics now, thanks guys.
 

Dakine

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Just to clarify, he didn't do ANYTHING at all to these plants or see them the whole time until he put them back into veg lighting.

I've topped some branches and the main top. I just started to train them. I want to get these 2 into good condition and then I'll tRy to make some clones..

The darker green plant that has way more under growth and branches trained is actually A Pineapple Chunk and the lighter green plant with less undergrowth and branches is a Lemon Haze. My log says the Chunk is A white chocolate strain but I got things mixed up..
 

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Dakine

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I'm not sure why every time I try to upload multiple images as attachments in 1 post, only 1 picture is able to come up..
 

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Dakine

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These pictures are the Lemon Haze, and the 2 Above are the Pineapple Chunk.

The top Half of the Chunk doesn't have the yellowing and some dying new growth like the bottom half. But surprisingly there is WAY More growth and new growth going on. Compared to the growth the Lemon Haze is going the Chunk could actually be called A "Good Plant" haha
 

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Dakine

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So these don't seem to die no matter what Foliar spray I make. Even with a little hydrogen peroxide or 99% alcohol/isopropyl . Or well they die but just keep coming back
 

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rockymountainJ

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Damn, them little basterds look like they mean buisness!! Can't really tell they look too big to be mites... just not a good enough pic to distinguish.. I've had good luck with sns 217 for mites, and am battling thrips with sns203. Hope you get them under control!!
 

rockymountainJ

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Sounds also like your biggest issue may be the fact they where outside!! Bringing and outside plant inside with outside pest.... well it causes problems!! Indoor we have no beneficial bugs to keep the balance.. thus we rely on sprays and such! Best advice don't bring any foreign plants into your grow. Never know who's riding along! Cheers man kill those lil nasty fcks
 

Dakine

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Yah man, those bugs do mean business haha. If I don't try to eradicate them every day the next day after its like they produced 100 babies , it's crazy.

Yah I should've just took them outside when my friend gave them to me but he wanted me to get them into a veg state to take clones. If I put them outside they'll go back straight into flower mode..

What type of sprays do you make if you see pest? I've tried the cinnamon,honey/molasses,onion,garlic,hydrogen peroxide, and 99% alcohol/isopropyl Foliar sprays.

I try to make sprays that get rid of pest but are still healthy and nutritional to the plants. Maybe I should try something other then a spray..
 

Dakine

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So for the past 2 hours I've been cutting dying fan leaves with pest on them and using a hydrogen peroxide about a 2:10 ratio to garlic water mix where ever I can. Now I've noticed another pest coming to the party.. So I've been noticing black specs on my leaves lately with the usual pest I have and noticed a very small yellowish worm looking things near a bunch of black specs.

So I'm thinking it's either larvae and the black specs are its feces?

This is getting rediculous. I might just try to take what ever clones I can and throw these 2 plants on the mountain just to give them a chance.. This is getting very time consuming and seems pointless. Plus it HAS to be stressing the plants out even though new growth is at its prime right now..

Any help would be greatly appreciated to get rid of these pest once and for all
 
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