Cannabis Based Insecticide?

[PDX Dopesmoker]

I knew I had to spray something on one of my outdoor plants to get rid of the mites & was trying to decide what to spray. I read that a 50/50 Everclear/Water mixture was effective & decided that it sounded like the least offensive of the options available to me so yesterday I sprayed it down with 3 shots of Smirnoff Red with no noticeable negative effects and a lot fewer creepy crawlers on on the plant this morning. I was about to give my plant another few shots of vodka and then I was thinking about pesticides and how some people theorize that cannabinoids evolved for pest control. As it so happened I was in possession of some Everclear with cannabinoids dissolved in it (nowhere near saturation) so I used that mixed 50/50 with water to spray the plant. I estimate that I sprayed about 150mg on the whole 3' plant so it might not even be enough to have an effect.
Of course I have no basis for comparison on effectiveness because I only have to one problem plant, but I feel really smart having thought this up all by myself anyway although I doubt I'm the first to have the idea.

If it is effective at this concentration the you could produce it for about $20/liter pretty easily. Of course you have to buy into the theory about cannabinoids being effective in pest control, which I'm not sure is true. Evolution just happens, not everything has a purpose & people who think "intelligent design" is a real thing have probably just had too many mechanical machine elf hallucinations. Those guys are just in your head and "intelligent design" is just as fictional.

 

[_tessarecting]

I just use essential oils...sulfur if its bad

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Cannabis esstential oils or some other ones? Other ones sound cheaper. Where does the sulphur come from?

 

[_tessarecting]

I get the essential oil mix from buildasoil, wettable sulfur is like 10 bux at the hydro store, made by bonide, must be atomized, and cannot be used within 30 days of using an oil. Essential oils dont count. Ive used them the day after spraying sulfur. You dont want to spray S past the second week of flower or if trichs are present

 

[Chunkypigs]

I think that sounds like an awesome idea!

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

I think that sounds like an awesome idea!

If you eat enough speedy sativa weed the idea can really make your head spin. I got daydreams of every tomato plant, fruit & vegeatable in America with THC sprayed on it. People will eat a much healthier diet when fresh fruit gets you high.

 

[Chimera]

Cannabinoids have no effect on insects since insects lack Cannabinoid receptors! I doubt it will be an effective insect repellant or pesticide.

Also, cannabinoids are toxic to regular cells which is why they are produced and sequesterred to specialized glands (trichomes) where they will not come into contact with leafy/cellular material inducing cell death (apoptosis).


Cannabinoid receptors are absent in insects.
McPartland J1, Di Marzo V, De Petrocellis L, Mercer A, Glass M.

Abstract
The endocannabinoid system exerts an important neuromodulatory role in mammals. Knockout mice lacking cannabinoid (CB) receptors exhibit significant morbidity. The endocannabinoid system also appears to be phylogenetically ancient--it occurs in mammals, birds, amphibians, fish, sea urchins, leeches, mussels, and even the most primitive animal with a nerve network, the Hydra. The presence of CB receptors, however, has not been examined in terrestrial invertebrates (or any member of the Ecdysozoa). Surprisingly, we found no specific binding of the synthetic CB ligands [(3)H]CP55,940 and [(3)H]SR141716A in a panel of insects: Apis mellifera, Drosophila melanogaster, Gerris marginatus, Spodoptera frugiperda, and Zophobas atratus. A lack of functional CB receptors was confirmed by the inability of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and HU210 to activate G-proteins in insect tissues, utilizing a guanosine-5'-O-(3-[(35)]thio)-triphosphate (GTP gamma S) assay. No orthologs of human CB receptors were located in the Drosophila genome, nor did we find orthologs of fatty acid amide hydrolase. This loss of CB receptors appears to be unique in the field of comparative neurobiology. No other known mammalian neuroreceptor is understood to be missing in insects. We hypothesized that CB receptors were lost in insects because of a dearth of ligands; endogenous CB ligands are metabolites of arachidonic acid, and insects produce little or no arachidonic acid or endocannabinoid ligands, such as anandamide.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Cannabinoids have no effect on insects since insects lack Cannabinoid receptors! I doubt it will be an effective insect repellant or pesticide.

Also, cannabinoids are toxic to regular cells which is why they are produced and sequesterred to specialized glands (trichomes) where they will not come into contact with leafy/cellular material inducing cell death (apoptosis).


Cannabinoid receptors are absent in insects.
McPartland J1, Di Marzo V, De Petrocellis L, Mercer A, Glass M.

Abstract
The endocannabinoid system exerts an important neuromodulatory role in mammals. Knockout mice lacking cannabinoid (CB) receptors exhibit significant morbidity. The endocannabinoid system also appears to be phylogenetically ancient--it occurs in mammals, birds, amphibians, fish, sea urchins, leeches, mussels, and even the most primitive animal with a nerve network, the Hydra. The presence of CB receptors, however, has not been examined in terrestrial invertebrates (or any member of the Ecdysozoa). Surprisingly, we found no specific binding of the synthetic CB ligands [(3)H]CP55,940 and [(3)H]SR141716A in a panel of insects: Apis mellifera, Drosophila melanogaster, Gerris marginatus, Spodoptera frugiperda, and Zophobas atratus. A lack of functional CB receptors was confirmed by the inability of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and HU210 to activate G-proteins in insect tissues, utilizing a guanosine-5'-O-(3-[(35)]thio)-triphosphate (GTP gamma S) assay. No orthologs of human CB receptors were located in the Drosophila genome, nor did we find orthologs of fatty acid amide hydrolase. This loss of CB receptors appears to be unique in the field of comparative neurobiology. No other known mammalian neuroreceptor is understood to be missing in insects. We hypothesized that CB receptors were lost in insects because of a dearth of ligands; endogenous CB ligands are metabolites of arachidonic acid, and insects produce little or no arachidonic acid or endocannabinoid ligands, such as anandamide.

Thanks for the pertinent info, but I question your apparent definition of "effective" in

"I doubt it will be an effective insect repellant or pesticide."

People will buy it cause its made out of weed and that means its effective. What if someone wants to distill it and dab the stuff? Of course selling people known ineffective insecticides (maybe its good on mold?) might be considered "not nice" in some circles.
How about THCA? Does that do anything to insects? Thats the form the stuff takes on the plant most of the time.
I'm not actually all that dedicated to joining the pesticide industry either way. What I really wanted to try for the bugs was diatomaceous dirt, but I already have the Everclear here at home so i went with that instead.
"Moonrock brand potency enhancer"

 

[_tessarecting]

Thats almost, but not quite as bad, as selling "structured water"...at least you get SOMETHING out of it.

Might be better to call the product...instead of insecticide...

Crazy Jims What Is This Stuff Maybe Bugs Wont Like It Serum (but you sure will!)

 

[INTENTS]

Dr bonner peppermint hemp soap. rediculously good as a insecticide and sooooo many other uses...awesome.

 

[_tessarecting]

Yep...my go to surfactant for foliar ^