Canfan vs. Vortex vs. AN Baddass inline fans?

[agoutihead]

Trying to figure out exactly what fan is best for me for attachment to a carbon filter.

Seems the big names are Vortex, Canfan & the Advanced Nutrients Baddass fan

From my understanding the AN Baddass uses 25% of the electricity compared to other centrifugal fans.

Is this found to be true? If that's the case, it is worth the extra few dollars, let alone for the increase in blowing on top of that. Plus it's said to be the quietest one on the market?

How do these Canfan Maxfans compare to the BaddAss? They seem to be way smaller. Are they quieter & more efficient, yet still powerful?

And I'm not sure if I want to go 6" or 8", how do I determine what size I want to use?

Thanks.

 

[Rowdy420]

Fantech FKD series, the best period. Ohm's law is always a great way to determine if salesman are feeding you crap. I would go with a can fan over the badass, I just haven't seen any claims from Advanced hold water - you can't always believe everything from a shiny advertisement!

Good luck, Peace

 

[Granger2]

Johnny,
Can't say anything about the badass. Vortex is as good as any I know of, has 10 year warranty. I learned the hard way to go with the larger fan option if you have the money and space, because you never know if you'll need need the capacity later or with another grow. If it moves more air than you need, just speed control it down. It'll be quieter. Quality centrifugal fans have a long life, so the extra cost is minimal over the life of the fan. Good luck. -granger

 

[Granger2]

Johnny,
Can't say anything about the badass. Vortex is as good as any I know of, has 10 year warranty. I learned the hard way to go with the larger fan option if you have the money and space, because you never know if you'll need the capacity later or with another grow. If it moves more air than you need, just speed control it down. It'll be quieter.

I wish I had bought an 8" to cool my 3 600's in the summer. If its too much in the winter, I could slow it down. Quality centrifugal fans have a long life, so the extra cost is minimal over the life of the fan. Good luck. -granger

 

[Phychotron]

I'd get a generic 8" inline fan~720-50cfm off Ebay for about $90-140. Fan technology is not very trivial, and these fans have developed for other industries. The premium you pay is for the marketing towards your hobby. AN will teach you all about that.

I looked at the AN fan and it's nothing special. They seem to claim to remove turbulence in the air, as if it's a problem.

"Your BaddAss Blower® gives you superior velocity and more cubic feet of air movement than any other blower in its class... "

If their turbulence reducing technology did that, then why does it move less CFM than other 8" inline fans? Their 8" moves max of 630 CFM vs mine @ 750. Maybe they had to invent a special class to say that. It probably runs quieter because its running on a lower maximum speed. probably where the power savings comes in too.

"they built the BaddAss Blower® solid, like the Rock-of-Gibraltar, by using permanently lubricated and enclosed bearings so you'll never have to worry about rust or a loss of performance."

standard bearings made to sound tricked out.

"even better, it has precision fitted high-grade steel construction with vise like sealing to ensure moisture never penetrates your vital circuitry and a rust proof coated housing offering you another layer of protection in humid environments guaranteeing you maintenance free performance. What's more, you get an unprecedented 20 year warranty, the best of any inline blower in the industry."

not sure, but it sounds like some more standard safety stuff with electricity they try and hype out. I do like the 20 yr warranty though. However, fans are pretty durable and are able to be warrantied for that long.

If noise is an issue then use larger 10-12" stuff at lower speeds. The larger the duct the less strain on the equipment.

 

[agoutihead]

Those Fantechs sounds great, but they are just so much more expensive compared to other fans, I can't justify it. Even if they are the best.

So we are a no go on the Baddass, thanks guys. (Unless I want a fancy red blower)

What about those Canfan Maxfans? They seem to be way smaller and a different design all together compared to the centrifugal. Are they quieter & more efficient, yet still powerful?

My buddy has a 6" & 8" fan he is willing to sell me, basically brand new, only used for a couple of grows at most probably. I think they might even be Vortex, I may just pick those up.

The used equipment market seems to be the way to buy this kind of equipment. It rids the sticker shock & the equipment is generally built so well or made of plastic like tables that there is no loss in quality from buying a brand new one. Especially with the warranties.

I'll probably run the 6" for an intake for the room and the 8" for the outake of the room & attached to the carbon filter. I'll be running LED's so I'm not worried about cooling lights like most people. These fans would strictly be for air exchange & odor elimination.

Do you guys think I'll have a vaccum issue with the 6" as intake & 8" as outake/carbon?

 

[joe fresh]

6" in and 8" out....sounds good to me, as long as it will move enough air for you its ll good

 

[Hydrolized]

I just bought 4 Fantech FG series and they were only $20 more than the others...4" are $125... I'm with Rowdy about both the FKD and the FG series...they are the only totally sealed fans and come perfectly balanced, I've had 2 Vortex and 1 CanFan that had a slight vibration/hum and in NO way passed a "smoke test" when I checked for leaks.

 

[gus738]

which brand is the winner for actual cfm ?

which brand is the winner for actual cfm ?

I just bought 4 Fantech FG series and they were only $20 more than the others...4" are $125... I'm with Rowdy about both the FKD and the FG series...they are the only totally sealed fans and come perfectly balanced, I've had 2 Vortex and 1 CanFan that had a slight vibration/hum and in NO way passed a "smoke test" when I checked for leaks.

i know its been some time since this thread was active but hydrolized which fan brand would be better as actual cfm ? 2 vortex? are the vortex the clear winner?

im asking because im going to need intake and exhaust so 2 fans. i think 6 and 8 wold be good. ?

 

[federal-inmate]

HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW VORTEX S-LINE SAME DESIGN AS S&P TD SILENT WITH SAME MOUNTING BRACKET AND HAS AN INTEGRATED BACK DRAFT DAMPER, IT LOOKS VERY COOL ,

ALSO THE NEW PHRESH HYPER FAN SAME PEOPLE FROM PHRESH FILTERS, IS SMALL SUPER COMPACT WITH INTEGRATED SPEED CONTROLLER AND HAVE SERIOUS POWER.

NOW I WANT TO REPLACE MINES, I HAVE A COUPLE OF S&P'S AND CAN'T DECIDE BUT BOTH ARE GOOD OPTIONS, CHECK THE LINK FOR VIDEO SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OR BATTLE, THE HYPER FAN BLEW THE VORTEX IN POWER

BONUS THEY RUN ON LOW WATTAGE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DkzX6ElX_4

 

[Mate Dave]

Go bigger than you need to with fans as they will be able to deal with all that comes your way, in summer you wont have to drop a watt or gram!

 

[mojave green]

i like the 14" one:

got 2 of the 10" ones as well. 14" is actually quieter than 10" ers.

 

[TheCleanGame]

6" valueline has been running for 2 years without issues. Pretty much constantly.

Keep it Clean!

 

[mliokv48]

Im looking to get some fans to anyone know anything about the REBEL fans from monster gardens? Do the new vortex fans with dampners do good pulling through filters? Also I think most fans are the same noise and watt wise.

 

[nachoconqueso]

Max fans are beast. Amazon had a bunch of 8" as open box items for $160 w/ free shipping. Can't beat that. They're loud but work great.

 

[cannaera]

vortex work great. But if you want something real, get a max fan, I suggest finding a 14 inch one, as if you look, they draw the least amount of energy out of any fan/per cfm. i think full speed is 1850 cfm and only 256 watts

 

[gus738]

so max fan? have you seen the hyperfans? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSOKYz1ponI

 

[mliokv48]

Phresh Hyper-Fan with rhiostat 35-100% controllable. these are the ones I am picking up.

200 bucks for 10" 1065 cfm
190 bucks for either 8" 720 cfm or 325 cfm 6"

the 8 inch is 5 lbs
75 watts at 720 cfm!
about 360 cfm through a 8x39 phresh filter
about 325 cfm through a 8x24 phresh filter

I am getting 10 inch for 200 and 8 inch for 190

 

[habeeb]

^ do they have a static pressure chart for there products?

they might be good, but that's nothing until ducting and carbons are hooked to them..


they look good for the wattage used, but they might fail to deliver when used in real world

 

[mliokv48]

^ do they have a static pressure chart for there products?

they might be good, but that's nothing until ducting and carbons are hooked to them..


they look good for the wattage used, but they might fail to deliver when used in real world

you can see one outperform a max fan and vortex on youtube and one of the videos also had a static pressure chart against different phresh filters.

I just picked mine up pretty cheap - 390 for a 10" and 8" now I just need to figure out how im going to use em.