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Calling BULLSH*T on the Independent UK

alphacat

Member
...Or should we say Inde-Pedantic UK?

Link to Schizophrenia?! Oh yeah - that's why India & Jamaica have historically had statistically exceptional numbers of occurrence, huh? NOT! It just makes you wonder who leaned on who to make this happen.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6464149.stm

Paper 'sorry' for cannabis stance
The Independent on Sunday has carried a front-page apology for its 10-year campaign to legalise cannabis.

The newspaper says it has changed its stance in the face of growing fears over addiction to the drug.

There are now more than 22,000 people a year, almost half under the age of 18, being treated for cannabis addiction.

And the paper says mental health problems and psychosis affect thousands of teenagers who use high-strength cannabis, known as "skunk".

When the Independent on Sunday's then editor Rosie Boycott launched a campaign to decriminalise cannabis in 1997, 16,000 people marched through central London to support it.

Then, the paper says, it was "leading a consensus", but now its editorial says that "the growing evidence of the risk of psychological harm" has forced it to do a U-turn.

The Police Federation's Jan Berry told BBC One's Sunday AM programme she welcomed the apology.

"Many people only read one newspaper or maybe a couple of newspapers and their views of the world are formed by what you put in those papers," she said.

"So 10 years ago, the Independent on Sunday said very big that cannabis should be legalised, should be decriminalised. And today they're putting in an apology and I think that's great if they acknowledge they've done wrong."

'Schizophrenia link'

The paper says that in 1997 there were just 1,600 people in the UK being treated for cannabis addiction compared to many times that now.

It quotes several senior scientists, including the head of the Medical Research Council, Professor Colin Blakemore, who backed the campaign, but has now changed his mind.

Professor Robin Murray, from the London Institute of Psychiatry, also tells the paper that at least 25,000 of the UK's 250,000 schizophrenics could have been spared the illness if they had not used cannabis.

And the paper points to research to be published in this week's Lancet which says cannabis is more dangerous than LSD and ecstasy.

The fact that the possession of cannabis - and other drugs - is illegal acts as an important social restraint
Independent on Sunday

In 2004, the government downgraded cannabis from a class B to a class C drug.

The Independent on Sunday says it believes the current classification and level of police enforcement is "about right".

"The fact that the possession of cannabis - and other drugs - is illegal acts as an important social restraint," it adds.

The paper says skunk smoked today contains 25 times more of the active ingredient than was typically found in cannabis during the 1980s.

It also says cannabis is more easily available, having fallen in price from about £120 an ounce in 1994 to £43 today.


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o.gkushowns

18 and Doh!
Yea WTF when I quit weed i have not the slightest problem, when i try cigs it's impossible and they wanna use likelyness to be addicted to decide whether somethin should be legal?

However I do have to agree that people who are genetically prone to be schizophrenic should not smoke weed as it makes them more likely. I'm not basing that on anyones views but my own. I've been to the nuthouse and seen first hand that weed aint great for some people.
peace
 
G

Guest

"teenagers who use high-strength cannabis, known as "skunk". " thats where they loose me?
 

Kaiser

New member
There's definitely something "anti cannabis" cooking over here in the UK. Last Tuesday evening I was driving along listening to Radio 1 and up came a story about a young man who had just been given a life sentence because he killed his best friend by almost chopping his head off.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/6450195.stm

I was amazed to hear the female news reader say "Cannabis addict sentenced to life for murder". What shocked me was the word addict. I've been smoking for 13 years and have never felt addicted once! I know of nobody who is addicted, its true that some people may get carried away, but there is no chemical addiction like Hereon or Crack. I fear there is a media drive to put cannabis into bad light and this is part of a bigger campaign.

I just don't understand what drove the news reader to say this, even the story on the link above doesn't say this and that's probably where she got the news from!
In addition to this, over the last year lots and lots of cannabis factory's have been raided and destroyed here in the UK. Admittedly, this may not be such a bad thing for skunk smokers because alot of these were the big crime gang farms (or so were told). So maybe its now down to individual tokers to start growing there own stash, this should improve the quality of weed circulating.

Anyway, I'm slightly considered at the way things are going, only last week a person as busted down the road from me for growing a few plants. This is getting very close to home!

I wish it was £43 an ounce, that would be amazing. I beleive its more like £160 - £200

 
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Kaiser im with you. A person got busted in an apartment across the road from me.
I was shitting myself. Kinda safe at the moment cos im hoping theyll go somewhere else,
rather than target one area. But looking out the window and seeing old bill & then turning
around and seeing my plants was kinda scary.

Grow ya own, but stay safe.
 

Kaiser

New member
Wow, that must have been intence. Hope you hadnt been toking at the time, i would have freaked out.

In my second month of growing i had 3 ladys sat upstairs. I was relaxing in my front room when I heard a noise in the passage outside. I looked out the window and at first i saw a copper in a yellow flourescent jacket setting up what looked like some eqiuplment. I freaked and thought i had two minutes before they kicked my door in.
I just stood there and watched out the window and it thankefully it turned out to be a photographer setting up a tripod to take a picture for some paper or other. I told myself off for that one!
 
S

sow the seeds

While I could see there actaully being a link between schizophrenia and weed...it certainly doesn't CAUSE it! I'm thinking more along the lines of if you have a family history of it...cannabis helps bring it out...just as many other factors can.

These people seem pretty dumb...saying that "The fact that the possession of cannabis - and other drugs - is illegal acts as an important social restraint ".

If it were legalized it could/would come with a warning saying "if you have a family history of schizophrenia you might not wanna take this."

Its just too bad this publication supported the legalization and now turned a total 180*. Sounds like political pressure/influence or a change of staff to me.
 

alphacat

Member
o.gkushowns said:
Yea WTF when I quit weed i have not the slightest problem, when i try cigs it's impossible and they wanna use likelyness to be addicted to decide whether somethin should be legal?

Bob Saget in ½Baked: "Marijuana is not a drug! I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some dick for marijuana? "
 

o.gkushowns

18 and Doh!
"marijuana addict kills"

ok it's now officially no longer LIKE reefer madness. it IS reefer madness qoute for qoute.
peace
 
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