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!!! calling all chemists, calling all chemists!!!

C6H6

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so im moving out of the house that im in rite now into an apartment and would like to continue to grow but i have a lot at steak of i get caught. so far no one but my parents, of all people, know i grow and i wanna keep it that way. My main concern with living in an apartment is smell so i have set about building a new carbon scrubber system and would like some imput on oder neutrilizing solutions.

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now let me explaine,
1. air is drawn in and pressurized
2. air passes through a tube to a layer activated carbon
3. activated carbon does its job and scrubbs the air
4. the air that has passed through the activated carbon then bubbles up through water and it released once again with having been throughly scrbbed.
incase this idea isn't clear think of and air stone in a fish tank, same idea. i also realize that from this quick 5 min sketch i have omited alot of the necessary hardware i did this to show the basic idea of whats going on.


now for the chemistry
thinking back to my organic classes i remember that most of the "smelly things" in the world are made up of aromatic compounds first thing that comes to mind is vanilla and well benzene. i want to apply the idea of aromaticity to the aroma pot gives off. now i personally dont know if the pot smell is aromatic or not but id be willing to bet that an aromatic ring is somewhere present. the water in the scrubber would be a mixture of water and some other compound that would destroy the aromaticity making it not smell.
now i would never do this but it should give an idea of what kind of reaction i would like to go on . take a solution of sodium hypochlorite and water, house hold bleach, and let the air bubble through that. i want to stress to anyone who is reading this, THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA, their would be a larger concentration of Cl in the air which is very harmful to people and plants. but for purposes of and example its great. the Cl being very EN would attach it self to the aromatic ring and hopefully destroy the compound.
so what kind of reactions do i have at my desposial some things that i am considering while looking for that perfect reaction are the byproducts, product availability, and safe desposial. so now what are some options?
 
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Whatever

You lost me almost from the start...just buy an off-the-shelf charcoal scrubber matched to the appropriate inline fan necessary to provide adequate air flow for your grow space and make things simple. If you have an idea for a new product just develop it, test it and bring it to market.
 

DIGITALHIPPY

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Whatever said:
You lost me almost from the start...just buy an off-the-shelf charcoal scrubber matched to the appropriate inline fan necessary to provide adequate air flow for your grow space and make things simple. If you have an idea for a new product just develop it, test it and bring it to market.
this is the ticket man.
 

flubnutz

stoned agin ...
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i agree. i did a bit of searchin around, didn't find much useful except that terpenes react with 03 to produce particulate matter that can cause increased lung irritation (something for the ozone guys to look into). there are probably a variety of terpenes comin off the plant so whatever reagent you use, even assuming you can supply the environment for a desired reaction (heat, pressure, catalysts etc.) the result will be mixed and maybe ugly.
 

Mr Celsius

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Kickin'ItEasy

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Why are you trying to complicate your design here? I'm not too sure what you're attempting to accomplish with the chemical solution that can't be done with an activated carbon scrubber.

Simple activated carbon scrubbers have been rigorously field tested by many, many growers. I'm certain one will work for you, too. All you've got to do is build one big enough and ensure that your fan can provide the necessary power to move air through it. However, if you're willing to invest the time and money to develop something that will work better/be cheaper/be more compact, then more power to you.

Also, if you are growing in an apartment, smell will be only one of many serious concerns including: stealthiness of your growbox, disposing of plant trimmings, and possibly electricity consumption if you're going for a big setup.
 

fumancu

Member
I use the ona and bucket that was in the link above.That stuff is great my 8x13 room full of buds smells like laundry.
 

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