Calling All BLUEBERRY Experts

[Guest]

Hello all, yet another OG refugee. Belated props Gypsie for stepping up to fill the void (sure it was a great business opportunity but you gotta give respect when due).

A couple years ago in a city far away I was mailing out clones of various strains and Blueberry seeds to OGers. I had some crappy free KC Brains strains that all hermied after topping, but I caught them very early and monitored my seed-mommy closely before doing a controlled pollination, so I am certain of the seeds' veracity, they are blueberryxblueberry, Dutch Passion to be exact.

I've popped 40+ of these seeds in three separate grows, and have popped and flowered several other strains. I pay careful attention to phenotypes.

The issue is I think I have a genetic freak on my hands. You know that massive greasy smelly kid from junior high gymn class, the one with the pituitary gland problem? Perhaps you were that kid. Well I have a female blueberry example of such hormonal overdrive in my veg chamber.

A grower who began with pure sativa, I was always frustrated by blueberry's sluggish growth. This plant's growth rate is amazing. It easily outpaces every bb pheno and every other strain in the box, and it branches extremely well when topped, which has been lacking in other bb phenos. And it clones sooo easily, more easily than white widow. The bb clones are already pushing on the humidity dome while the others are still getting their bearings. It has very very little coloring on the stems.

But I wonder if it is a sativa pheno of BB? I read something about it on the old strainguides. I think he said it had no coloring on the stems but surprisingly flowered purple (which I'm hoping for).

So, if you're an old hand at blueberry, have you run across a sativa-leaning pheno like this? Or have I popped the Yao Ming of Blueberries by shear volume?

 

[Guest]

I'm no blueberry expert by any means, but I believe Reeferman considered the Blueberry Sativa a 1 in 100 pheno. Either that, or it's an f1. Either way, sounds like you've got a winner on your hands

Edit: Sorry, didn't read your whole post, I guess(about the blueberry x blueberry). Considering that the other ones from this cross aren't nearly as vigorous, I'd assume that it's a sativa pheno. I'd love to see pictures of her.

 

[TGT]

I have grown Blueberry for many years now. I first started off with a Blueberry from DJ Short and just about a year and a half ago got a crazy BB clone that has been cloned since the early 90's. This is the best smoke I have had to date in potency and taste, but yeild is small. I decided to make some beans with it and see how well they would turn out.

She sometimes puts out a couple bannanas here or there if left to veg too long. I used this to my advantage and crossed an AK47 select clone I had. The results were a plant I call 'Big Bertha'. She has every trait Blueberry has with a huge yeild ability. This is the only strain of Blueberry that I have seen that can compete with Chronic for yeild. She maintains all of Blueberry's goodness, and if you were to smoke a bud you would swear it was only Blueberry in it's genetics. I guess I got lucky. So now I keep a clone of Big Bertha and am going to grow her out for a second time this grow.

So, in a sense I guess you could call this a freak. It's funny how sometimes you can get so lucky with a cross, and other times totally strike out every time for months. Must be phases of the moon or something.

TGT

 

[Guest]

Interesting gmb, I had no idea the sativa pheno was that rare. I actually at first thought it was male, until it showed female a week ago. It was strange, the growth of a sativa but with the thick stems of indica. It does seem like a winner, but time will tell... I will post a final report to this thread once she's harvested. If it turns out as I'm wishin', I'll be sure to spread the love around with a mailout.

Sounds like we both got lucky TGT! The wonders of chaos eh? Its a numbers game. Personally I remove every strain with hermaphroditic tendancies.. Zero tolerance policy. That way I don't have to check them all the time.

Found the strainguide.. http://www.hanflexikon.de/Dutch_Passion/Blueberry/index.html

God I can't wait to smoke Blueberry again. It's like candy.

 

[Red]

Sounds like you have found an elusive BBS. If you have flower this girl at 6-12 inches as she will grow like mad well into the flowering cycle. Ease up on the nutes and don't over water her. Please let us know how she does!

 

[bartender187]

Nice find love to see pics when you get around to flowerin her. take care and thanks for sharin, bartender187

 

[Guest]

Hahaha Come on Red, I know what I'm doing.

 

[Guest]

Hello, I'm no Blueberry expert, at least i dont think i am.. But i have grown it for several years. I have also crossed it with other breeds.. You asking about a Sativa blueberry pheno?.. i have it. at least i think i do.. Most of the blueberry plants i see online are short dark green and more indica looking to me. The Blueberry i got was from Dutch Passion seed co. back around 1999-2001. When i started the seedlings.. they all looked okay.. but grew a bit slower than the rest. i.e. most my other plants i started at the same time where almost double the size (width/height) of the blueberries BUT! Once i moved the plants into the bloom phase, the blueberries started shooting its side shoots out crazy. IT also trippled in height. I thought to myself "What the fuck? 80% Indica my ass!". So i grew them out to finish, and i must say, they are Awesome. they grew like a Sativa, but the blooms where little Indica nuggits. The smell and cured taste are a 10 in my book. the "effect" of it was a 7 of 10 for me.. Luck for me one of these blueberries hermied durring the bloom @ week 5-6. So i kept that plant alone to bloom out, and I collected many many S1 Dutchpassion Blueberry seeds. I also used some of that hermi pollen to spread on my other breeds i had around. like these



here is a picture of the blueberry i have starting to bloom..



here is another shot of a cross,, blueberry x northwest



And last but not least, the uber'est one of them all. This is a S1 seed i got from the original Dutch passion seed pack's hermi. She is one of the top plants i have ever had the pleasure of knowing..



Well i hope that any of this info helps.. if not,, at least i got to show off some of my pics lol.. just playing.. be well, stay safe..

Cannabismavin,

 

[Guest]

Hi cannabismavin, and thank you, every little bit helps. Especially the pics. Those are huge for blueberries. And I love that nug array you made, I'm smokeless until my next harvest so its making my mouth water as I type this... after staring hard at the differences in the individual nugs for five minutes lol.

Strangely (well not really considering the randomness of genetic inheritance) my purple princess doesn't display the slower early growth pattern you describe. How easily does yours clone btw? That's a detail I've taken to speak volumes about a pheno's vitality.

I'm too embarassed of my current grow setup to bother borrowing someone's digicam for pics. Its fluoros in a rubbermaid (but it's working guuuuh-reat!), just to keep the plants going. As I ramp up it will be used strictly for cloning.

But we shall see.. I'll get a ghetto-ass flower chamber set up to get a harvest in before I move in a few months, then really grow her out proper. But I'll get a good idea from the first harvest.

Oh and mavin... you are obviously a connoisseur. From one to another, you GOTTA try kali mist -- gotta get the right pheno though, some phenos are just waaaaayyy toooooo cerebral. I miss mine. *sniff*

 

[Guest]

Hello Dislexus, Thank you very much for the kind words.. bless...
Sorry for the long response time.. i've been watching "Ninja Warrior" on TV. its damn entertaining.
You asked it the blueberry cloned easly.. answer is Yes.. no problem.. it liked it..
I personaly like the blueberry gene,, just beware of hermaphroditing. I think the Hermaphroditing might have been my fault. My A/C unit failed, and the humidity was 80+% in the room. Right along with 90+ temps for a day and a half.. talk about a heartattack... a week after that happen, i noticed hermi banana's in multiple locations on the blueberry. I found only two other banana's on two other plants. My homebreed, and Rez's SDv3. But they both where bad, meaning no pollen in them.. but the blueberry was very fertile so i moved her out and let her finish to make seeds.
Hahah, Its funny you recommened the Kali Mist.. I have never got to enjoyed any of it yet and have heard such rave reviews for years.. I know i'm missing out.. I'll have to look at the med clubs; i haven't been there lately. I have drooled over pics of Kali Mist on the web, and have wanted to order seeds of it, but am too chicken to order seeds anymore. Maybe when G.W.bush gets out of office i'll look into them.. I do so want to try the Kali Mist.. Be well Dislexus.. good luck on upgrading your garden,, and remember a small well maintained garden is better than a big ugly messy one, anyday. peace..

Cannabismavin,

 

[Haps]

Here are some blue sativas for ya, all either from Reef's stock or made from it, I love the blue sativas.
H

 

[Guest]

One thing I forgot to mention.

Out of this round of popping, the pheno in question showed sex a week before two less-vigorous purple-stemmed phenos (one male one female). And I'm still waiting on two more to show sex..

Does that indicate anything in particular, from anybody's experience?

It just takes me back to the kid with the berserk pituary gland analogy..

Cannabismavin, it sounds like a possibility.. I've put mine through hell in the past and never had hermies, but I don't think I've put them through high temps and high humidity at the same time. Part of me wishes someone I sent Kali Mist clones out to would hit me up, but I know I would never give an addy, way too paranoid. There was one dude a couple states over.. Wish he'd contact me and be willing to visit to a state park with a GPS to leave a Kali I can take cuttings from. I really liked that pheno, it was a joyous smoke.

Love those pics Haps! I never had low enough temps for the purple expression, but the nugs always came out a dark blue-green with a nice sugary glaze. But it wasn't for sale, just me & friends, so it didn't matter.

 

[DankU]

sweet ...good info..thanks got to love blue berrys....

 

[tarzan of thc]

It is at least a 1 in a 100 shot.

 

[tarzan of thc]

I think. LOL!

 

[Guest]

Anybody ever definitively deduce the harvest time of a BB-sativa-leaning pheno, using the magnifying glass method? Is it about the same (60 days or so?)

 

[Closet Funk]

It makes since that there is a Sativa pheno(s) with Blueberry. It's genes have Thai in it. The more Indica dominant probally favor the Afghan growth, but once in awhile throw you a Purple Thai pheno. The pheno is probally less frequent then the Indica dominant pheno.

 

[Guest]

Anybody ever definitively deduce the harvest time of a BB-sativa-leaning pheno, using the magnifying glass method? Is it about the same (60 days or so?)

Yes i have I had 3 sativa phenos in my blueberry from dutch passion.. and the harvest time under the scope was anywhere 50 to 60 days.. It ripens very quick.. I like it hahah..
I noticed that they packed on the Trich's early in bloom (week 2-3, then size was packed on in weeks 4-6..) I harvest at a 70% cloudy, 15% clear, 15%amber.. and that happened at week 7 and 8 pheno dependant.. hope that helps.. Peace.. and good luck..

Cannabismavin,

 

[THCpulmonary]

Anyone here know where I could obtain some spice of life Blue Sat F1's?

 

[Guest]

Haha awesome news mavin! I was hoping that the harvest time wasn't affected too much when a BB pheno leans sativa, sounds like it's not affected much at all. It all just seems too good to be true.