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Calif. 'Pot Docs' Put Selves at Risk

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By LISA LEFF
Associated Press Writer
Published November 5, 2006, 4:06 AM CST


COOL, Calif. -- Dr. Mollie Fry never thought telling her patients where to get the medicine she recommended for pain, depression and nausea would be a problem.

Federal drug agents who raided her home and office thought otherwise, and she was indicted last year on felony charges of conspiring to distribute marijuana.

"I assumed the fact that I had 'M.D.' at the end of my name gave me the right to make judgments about people's health," said Fry, who estimates she has issued thousands of cannabis recommendations since setting up her thriving practice northeast of Sacramento in 1999.

Since California passed the nation's first medical marijuana law a decade ago, a provision requiring written doctor approval to grow and buy pot has created conflict between the state mandate and federal drug laws, and strained the doctor-patient relationship.

Until the stalemate is resolved, doctors recommending marijuana do it with trepidation and a good deal of risk.

Medical marijuana advocates estimate that 1,500 doctors, mostly oncologists and AIDS specialists, have authorized pot for at least one patient. But most recommendations have come from about 15 self-appointed specialists, the so-called "pot docs," who charge $150 and up to walk what the California Medical Association calls "a gray area between the clearly permissible and clearly impermissible categories of action."

Following complaints by local law enforcement, nearly all have been investigated by the state board that licenses and disciplines physicians. Four had devoted their practices to acting as medical marijuana consultants and ultimately were sanctioned, ranging from the public rebuke that Fry got to having their licenses suspended.

California's medical marijuana law, also known as Proposition 215, named a host of ailments for which marijuana might prove helpful in easing symptoms: cancer, anorexia, AIDS, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine.

Unlike medical marijuana laws enacted in 10 other states, California's also gave doctors discretion to certify patients with "any other illness for which marijuana provides relief," leaving open the possibility that recommendations could be made to people who did not need them.

David Thornton, executive director of the California Medical Board, said that until the board issued guidelines two years ago outlining what constituted "accepted medical standards," physicians pretty much had to figure it out on their own. Most concluded it was not worth the risk.

Although a federal appeals court ruled four years ago that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration cannot go after doctors merely because they recommend marijuana to patients, the state medical board's guidelines make it clear the ruling did not amount to immunity either from prosecution or disciplinary proceedings.

The board advises doctors that relying on a patient's word instead of prior medical records to determine whether a marijuana recommendation is appropriate could constitute medical negligence. Failing to conduct an independent exam or to consider whether another drug would be as effective could lead to charges of unprofessional conduct.

The California Medical Association is even more explicit, warning doctors never to tell patients where to get pot and urging them to remind patients of possible side effects. Discussing dosages with patients, opining on whether they should smoke or eat marijuana, and signing a form that enables patients to obtain a state-issued medical marijuana ID card also are steps the medical association cautions could lead to them being sanctioned.

Frank Lucido, a Berkeley physician who devotes about 30 percent of his practice to working with medical marijuana patients, said he abides by those recommendations, but thinks pot docs are being held to higher standards than doctors who prescribe lots of Viagra, prescription painkillers and other abused medications. Doctors who prescribe sleeping pills for patients who complain of insomnia, Lucido noted, are not at risk of being called quacks if they don't do a hands-on exam or develop a long-term treatment plan.

Fry, 50, who is awaiting trial, continues signing recommendation forms for patients who come to see her from throughout the state. She no longer sells her patients starter plants, but freely tells them about what she sees as the spiritual, emotional and economic benefits of growing their own pot.

"What did I take an oath to do? To do no harm and to alleviate pain and suffering," Fry said. "I'm going to be true to my oath, and I'm even willing to go to prison for it."



Copyright © 2006, The Associated Press
 

Nikijad4210

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Now this just pisses me off, we have a big enough problem in this fucking country with making sure there's enough doctors to go around in the first place, shoving perfectly capable ones in the pen is NOT HELPFUL IN THE SLIGHTEST.

Our doctors are dealing with enough problems right now, dealing with malpractice insurance they almost can't afford, worrying they'll get sued and lose their license for the most minor of problems, have the feds breathing down their necks over painkiller prescriptions, etc etc. It's no wonder no one wants to be in that field anymore, they're sitting ducks for both the lawsuit-happy morons of the country and the feds alike.

This hardcore "we'll tell you how to operate" federal bullshit's got to stop before doctors become scarce, or non-existant entirely, on US soil.
 

Babbabud

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Mollie Fry is a wonderful person and has devoted herself to making sure that the people get the medicine they need. Even after a huge battle with breast cancer herself that came very close to ending her life. She is truly a wonderful doctor and friend.
 
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The California Medical Association is even more explicit, warning doctors never to tell patients where to get pot and urging them to remind patients of possible side effects.

It's posted all over my Doctor's office to not inquire about where to get medicine period.

I spoke freely with the Doctor about how Cannabis benefitted me and what strains were good for what, but never were clubs discussed. I think the DEA is doing everything possible to do away with clubs or at least curb their growth. They are loosing the war, and so they intimidate even Doctors. I feel sorry for a country and for the Doctor who has to worry about being imprisonned for prescribing an herb.
R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S
 
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i saw a thing on the news how theres a shortage of doctors and the future is not so bright for new ones
 

FreedFromWithin

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Yeah I use pot, 2 puffs mid day and 2 before bed and it's helped my depression and motivation and social anxiety more than anything lately. I'm 21 and I feel I would be discriminated against if I tried to get an MMJ script because I don't have AIDS, MS, Cancer or glaucoma and am 21.

There's still this paradigm/stigma that people shouldn't use pot or it's wrong or you need to be chronically ill to have an excuse to use it. I've managed to drop college twice without using any cannabis at the time and have periods where all I did was stay in my room and play video games days on end. And gone weeks without talking to other people besides ordering food and checking out books a the library.

I'm not trying to get any sympathy over what were my actions and choices, but if mild use of cannabis makes me want to get up and go out in the world or enjoy it more I don't know what the problem is with that. My parents were ignorant enough they actually took my pot just before my 21st birthday over the summer because they somehow thought they found the cause of my problems. It only made me in a near rage for a week where I just played video games and wouldn't talk to them. My only protest to this refusing to drink when my parents ritualistically took my to dinner for my birthday. It was only a further blow to an almost nonexistent relationship. I don't spend much time thinking about the status of any of my past relationships and might as well burn all bridges to my past. By the time I get on my feet in life I doubt I'll really spend much time looking back. Marijuana laws have nothing to do with anything besides being a form of social control and personal deprivation.

Been a depression suffer for a long time although just quietly suffered with little outward symptoms. More or less I was one of those people who went through life like a zombie who wasn't aware of his own personal impoverishment. Coming into college these issues came to a head sooner or later. Finding cannabis has been like the next step in my life to be able to finally advance and live with some autonomy and independence. I feel happier and more in control of myself and life than at any point thus far. My childhood was fucked up and I lucky to come out of all this and be ok with my head on straight at this point. I think I more than qualify to be able to use marijuana.

Apparently they harass, arrest, and successfully prosecute medial users who never hurt anyone. I figure you might as well grow it illegally, rather than telling the fucking government you're growing.
 
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Very well put, I hate the idea that someone can tell you how Cannabis benefits your mental or physical health. Hypocrites is what they are. How many times have you heard even from patients themselves "I see healthy young people come in and out of the clubs..."

Did they ever stop to think they are healthy because the herb is giving them a better quality of life. Nice story man, I have anxiety and pain issues myself and if anyone tries to judge me I'll give them a thought or two to ponder. peace/
 

Nikijad4210

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I wonder how many people realize Cannabis was once listed as poisonous.


I shit you not.


Let me go find the link.



http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/h/hemind22.html

Hemp, Indian
POISON!
(Please DO NOT e-mail me about this being listed as a Poison. This is the way it is listed in the original edition, published in 1931, by Mrs. Grieve. I’ve attempted to keep the "electronic" version as faithful as possible to the original - Editor, botanical.com)
Botanical: Cannabis sativa (LINN.)
Family: N.O. Urticaceae
Description
Constituents
Medicinal Action and Uses
Dosage
---Synonyms---Cannabis Indica. Cannabis Chinense. Ganeb. Ganja. Kif. Hanf. Tekrouri. Chanvre.
---Part Used---The dried, flowering tops of the female, or pistillate plants.
---Habitat---India.




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Marijuana
(Cannabis indica Lam.)
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Habitat. In Britain, and formerly elsewhere, only Hemp grown in India was recognized as official, but the heavy tax has resulted in the admission by the United States of any active Cannabis sativa, whether grown in the States or in Africa, Turkey, Turkestan, Asia Minor, Italy, or Spain.

---Description---The plant is an annual, the erect stems growing from 3 to 10 feet or more high, very slightly branched, having greyish-green hairs. The leaves are palmate, with five to seven leaflets (three on the upper leaves), numerous, on long thin petioles with acute stipules at the base, linear-lanceolate, tapering at both ends, the margins sharply serrate, smooth and dark green on the upper surface, lighter and downy on the under one. The small flowers are unisexual, the male having five almost separate, downy, pale yellowish segments, and the female a single, hairy, glandular, five-veined leaf enclosing the ovary in a sheath. The ovary is smooth, one-celled, with one hanging ovule and two long, hairy thread-like stigmas extending beyond the flower for more than its own length. The fruit is small, smooth, light brownish-grey in colour, and completely filled by the seed.

Hemp grows naturally in Persia, Northern India and Southern Siberia, and probably in China. It is largely cultivated in Central and Southern Russia. It is sometimes found as a weed in England, probably due to seeds from birdcages, as they are much used in feeding tame birds. The drug that is official in Europe comes from Bogra and Rajshabi, north of Calcutta, or sometimes from Guzerat and Madras. It is called Guaza by London merchants.

It is imported in parcels of small masses, with flowers, smaller leaves and a few ripe fruits pressed together by sticky, resinous matter. It is rough, brittle, dull-green in colour and almost tasteless, with a peculiar, slightly narcotic odour. It should be freed from resin by macerating in spirit and then soaking in water. The leaves are said to be picked off to form bhang, and the little shoots which follow these are used as above, and called ganja. It is exported from Bombay in wooden cases. Two-year-old ganja is almost inert, and the law requires it to be burnt in the presence of excise officers. In the Calcutta areas the short tops are rolled under foot instead of being trodden, the weight of the workers being supported by a horizontal bamboo pole. This variety is very active, and is usually re-exported from England to the West Indies.

Hemp is prepared in various forms. Ganja is smoked like tobacco. Bhang, sidhee, or subjee is the dried, larger leaves, broken or mixed with a few fruits. It is pounded with water to make a drink, and is the chief ingredient of the sweetmeat majun. Churrus or charas is the resin which exudes spontaneously from the leaves, tops and stems. A usual way of collecting it is for men in leathern garments to rush through the bushes, the resin being afterwards scraped off the clothes. In Nepal the plant is squeezed between the palms of the hands, and in Baluchistan the resin is separated by rubbing the dried plant carefully between carpets. This is the hashish, haschisch, or hashash of the Arabians, the word 'assassin' being said to be derived from it, owing to the wild, fanatical courage given by its use. In Persia the woollen carpets, after scraping, are washed with water, and the evaporated extract is sold cheaply. Another way is to collect the dust after stirring dry bhang, this impure form of resin being only used for smoking.

Flat cakes called hashish by the Russians are a preparation made from Hemp in Central Asia, and also called nasha.

In Thibet momea or mimea is said to be made with Hemp and human fat.

Many electuaries and pastes are made with butter or other oily foundation, such as majun of Calcutta, mapouchari of Cairo, and the dawames of the Arabs.

The madjound of the Algerians is a mixture of honey and hashish powder.

Hemp Fibre is best produced by the plants in cooler latitudes, the best being obtained from Italy, but much from Russia. About one and a half million hundredweight are imported annually for cordage, sacking, and sail-cloths.

A varnish is made from the pressed seeds.

Two or three green twigs collected in spring and placed in beds will drive bedbugs from the room.

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---Constituents---Cannabinone or Hemp resin is soluble in alcohol and ether. Cannabinol is separated from it. It is fawn-coloured, in thin layers, and burns with a clear, white flame, leaving no ash. This is the active principle. There is a small amount of ambercoloured volatile oil, one of the linseed-oil group. It has been resolved into a colourless liquid called cannabene, and a solid hydride of this.

It is said that a volatile alkaloid has been found in the tops, resembling nicotine. It also contains alcoholic extract, ash, and the alkaloid Choline.

---Medicinal Action and Uses---The principal use of Hemp in medicine is for easing pain and inducing sleep, and for a soothing influence in nervous disorders. It does not cause constipation nor affect the appetite like opium. It is useful in neuralgia, gout, rheumatism, delirium tremens, insanity, infantile convulsions, insomnia, etc.

The tincture helps parturition, and is used in senile catarrh, gonorrhoea, menorrhagia, chronic cystitis and all painful urinary affections. An infusion of the seed is useful in after pains and prolapsus uteri. The resin may be combined with ointments, oils or chloroform in inflammatory and neuralgic complaints.

The drug deteriorates rapidly and hence is very variable, so that it is best given in ascending quantities to produce its effect. The deterioration is due to the oxidation of cannabinol and it should be kept in hermetically-sealed containers.

The action is almost entirely on the higher nerve centres. It can produce an exhilarating intoxication, with hallucinations, and is widely used in Eastern countries as an intoxicant, hence its names 'leaf of delusion,' 'increaser of pleasure,' 'cementer of friendship,' etc. The nature of its effect depends much on the nationality and temperament of the individual. It is regarded as dangerous to sleep in a field of hemp owing to the aroma of the plants.

---Dosage---Tincture, B.P. and U.S.P., 5 to 15 drops. Solid extract, B.P., 1/4 to 1 grain. Fluid extract, 1 to 3 drops. Of cannabis, 1 to 3 grains. Of best hashish, for smoking, 1/4 to 1 grain. Of tincture, 10 to 30 minims. Of tincture for menorrhagia, 5 to 10 minims. three to four times a day (i.e. 24 grains of resinous extract in a fluid ounce of rectified spirit).

Of extract, from 1 to 20 grains, according to quality.

The following is stated to be a certain cure for gonorrhcea. Take equal parts of tops of male and female hemp in blossom. Bruise in a mortar, express the juice, and add an equal portion of alcohol. Take 1 to 3 drops every two to three hours.

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SLANG NAMES FOR MARIJUANA:
Devil Drug, Weed of Madness, Cannabis, Assassin of Youth, Mexican Ditch Weed, Hashish, Hay, Chronic, Blunts, Pot, Brick Weed, Ganja, joint, Acapulco Gold, dime Bag, Rope, Grass, Weed, "L", Jive Stick, Nickel Bag, MaryJane, Loco, Boom, Bhang, Ganja, Indo, Hydro, Stick

Also see:
Hemp, Enc. Britannica, 1856 .
US Goverment's "Street Terms" for Marijuana, 2003
Misc Music and Audio files

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Budless

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It's sad to see such a bias and ignorance fueled war still raging in the day in age where we believe ourselves to be enlightened and the most advanced civilization known about. The country has more than enough money and man-power to do research on this drug, but from the lies that have been fed to our current politicians throughout their lives by the previous government officals the stigma of "POT WILL KILL YOU/MAKE YOU CRAZY/etc." still lives strong. That being said the research is almost impossible because of the lies about drugs the current politicans live by. If I recall correctly it is easier for a research company or school research program to obtain Cocaine over Marijuana. That tells me the USA government thinks MJ is a more dangerous drug than Cocaine. Anybody with a slight of common sense of the real world can tell you Cocaine is by far the more dangerious of the two. So why do we continue to live by these lies? The people on capitol hair that wear their crowns of grey and their blindfolds of ignorance refuse to change stances on any subject that may cause them to be rejected by any voters what so ever. They are essentually whores that fail to provide their end of the bargin when we own up to theirs.

Though this attack does not suprise me due to the past track record of our country, it does give way to my ideas as to what direction this country is headed. The USA prides itself on being top dog, but the only thing we have achieved top dog on is a continual ruination on the grounds and hemp paper the US was founded on. We have destroyed the delecate balance of power that our founding fathers left for us in hopes that the masterful framework of their times would give rise to the best country in the world. I can not bear to say this is all the fault of the country itself, more accurately so its the work of power-hungry politicians and the corrupt method of politics we have today.

Is it hard to believe I grew up in the USA? No, I don't think so. Is it hard to believe I have grew up in the heart of the conservitive-south and still hold these views? To me it is, but I am just happy that I was not blinded by the shroud blind faith that most people are adorned with from birth in the South.

I love what this country stands for and the pieces of paper called the "Bill of Rights" and the "Constitution of the United States of America," But I so much as loathe the current state of affairs the USA represents now. I hope it changes, I can only hope for the best. If worse comes to worse, I will pick up a cause my self. There is nothing I feel more strongly about today than the demolition and reconstuction of politics in this day and age.

Sorry to hear the doctors are getting a foot in their ass by the US government, but they seem to be doing that a lot these days to everybody else.
 
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