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Calif. Governor Veto Allows Warrantless Cellphone Searches

RetroGrow

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Now even Jerry Brown is getting into the "take away your rights" game:

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

The Sunday veto means that when police arrest anybody in the Golden State, they may search that person’s mobile phone — which in the digital age likely means the contents of persons’ e-mail, call records, text messages, photos, banking activity, cloud-storage services, and even where the phone has traveled.

Police across the country are given wide latitude to search persons incident to an arrest based on the premise of officer safety. Now the nation’s states are beginning to grapple with the warrantless searches of mobile phones done at the time of an arrest.

Brown’s veto message abdicated responsibility for protecting the rights of Californians and ignored calls from civil liberties groups and this publication to sign the bill — saying only that the issue is too complicated for him to make a decision about. He cites a recent California Supreme Court decision upholding the warrantless searches of people incident to an arrest. In his brief message, he also doesn’t say whether it’s a good idea or not.

Instead, he says the state Supreme Court’s decision is good enough, a decision the U.S. Supreme Court let stand last week.

“The courts are better suited to resolve the complex and case-specific issues relating to constitutional search-and-seizure protections,” the governor wrote.

Because of that January ruling from the state’s high court, the California Legislature passed legislation to undo it — meaning Brown is taking the side of the Supreme Court’s seven justices instead of the state Legislature. The Assembly approved the bill 70-0 and the state Senate, 32-4.

The bill’s sponsor, Sen. Mark Leno (D-San Francisco), was flummoxed by Brown’s action. “It was a curious veto message suggesting that the courts could resolve this more effectively than the state Legislature,” he said in a telephone interview.

Under California statehouse rules, neither Leno nor any other lawmaker may introduce the legislation for at least a year.

Orin Kerr, one of the nation’s leading Fourth Amendment experts, said Brown should have backed the state’s Legislature. “I think Governor Brown has it exactly backwards. It is very difficult for courts to decide Fourth Amendment cases involving developing technologies like cellphones,” he said.

In 2007, there were 332,000 felony arrests in California alone — a third of which did not result in conviction.

Brown’s veto also shores up support with police unions and the Peace Officers Research Association of California, a police union that opposed the legislation and recently donated $38,900 to Brown’s campaign coffers. “Restricting the authority of a peace officer to search an arrestee unduly restricts their ability to apply the law, fight crime, discover evidence valuable to an investigation and protect the citizens of California,” the association said in a message.

That support would be key if Brown decides to seek a second term.

In the last year alone, at least seven police unions donated more than $12,900 each to Brown. Those unions, including the California Association of Highway Patrolmen and the Sacramento County Deputy Sheriff’s Association, had given Brown more than $160,000 in combined contributions.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/10/warrantless-phone-searches/
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
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the Peace Officers Research Association of California, a police union that opposed the legislation and recently donated $38,900 to Brown’s campaign coffers. “


That support would be key if Brown decides to seek a second term.

In the last year alone, at least seven police unions donated more than $12,900 each to Brown. Those unions, including the California Association of Highway Patrolmen and the Sacramento County Deputy Sheriff’s Association, had given Brown more than $160,000 in combined contributions.


Well that tells you right there what needs to happen. Old Jerry, and all the rest of them, listens to da dollars.
What is needed to counteract these police unions is this-
Unions need to be formed to donate cash to politicians.
The Growers Union Of Southern CA-Donate 50,000.00
The Growers Unions Of Central CA-Donate 50,000.00
The Growers Union Of Norcal-Donate 50,000.00
The Trimmers Union- Donate 50,000.00
The International Brotherhood of Tokerdom-Donate a total of 50,000.00
The Street Slangers Union donate 50,000.00
Start putting the dollars where they need to go things will change. Until then leo will keep on insuring their place in your life right down the street with a camera and video tape.
 

Sam the Caveman

Good'n Greasy
Veteran
Thats amazing he veto'ed that with the amount of legislative support it had. I mean 70-0 and 32-4, thats unheard of in any state legislature.
 

qupee

Member
Thats amazing he veto'ed that with the amount of legislative support it had. I mean 70-0 and 32-4, thats unheard of in any state legislature.

Can they overturn the veto? I don't know their state system, but it's common for legislature to overturn a veto with enough votes right?
 

DuskrayTroubador

Well-known member
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Can they overturn the veto? I don't know their state system, but it's common for legislature to overturn a veto with enough votes right?

According to wikipedia, California State Legislature may override a veto with a 2/3 vote in each house.
 
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guest456mpy

!) Past voting should assure a veto overturn.
2) time to vote this governor out of he office since his obviously does not listen to the voters choices!
 

Tony Aroma

Let's Go - Two Smokes!
Veteran
In the last year alone, at least seven police unions donated more than $12,900 each to Brown. Those unions, including the California Association of Highway Patrolmen and the Sacramento County Deputy Sheriff’s Association, had given Brown more than $160,000 in combined contributions.
What ever happened to "we just enforce the laws"?
 
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Nondual

The industrial prison complex is strong with this one....
Yeah people talk about legalization/decriminalization and I keep saying this is one of the main reasons it's difficult to believe that will happen. Soooo much money being made on the criminal enforcement side it's a HUGE business. That entity does not want to die and will fight to the end.

Thats amazing he veto'ed that with the amount of legislative support it had. I mean 70-0 and 32-4, thats unheard of in any state legislature.
Sounds pretty crazy!
 

Yes4Prop215

Active member
Veteran
JB is a sack of shit.....the whole police union wants to strip our rights one by one. bet they support a ban on the 2nd amendment too.....they want all the power.


i had a punk cop run through my cell phone..making jokes about calling the numbers and seeing if they were selling weed...commenting on my facebook updates...totally embarassing and a violation of my rigth to privacy..and it did not contribute in anyway to "protecting" the citizens of california.....its such an insult to hear those idiots even have the ignorance to say that...

california is the biggest example of a nanny state..
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
He also just vetoed the Hemp bill the Legislature passed. Said even though it's hemp it's still classified as marijuana under federal law. This Dem gov is a dick all around.
 

PoopyTeaBags

State Liscensed Care Giver/Patient, Assistant Trai
Veteran
Yeah people talk about legalization/decriminalization and I keep saying this is one of the main reasons it's difficult to believe that will happen. Soooo much money being made on the criminal enforcement side it's a HUGE business. That entity does not want to die and will fight to the end.

Sounds pretty crazy!

the criminal justice system as a whole i do beleive is 1/3 of are economy or some shit... i was watching some documentary im pretty sure this is what they said at least lol... i was amazed when i heard the numbers...
 
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