cali strain scene washed up, what do people want

[InvisibleEmpire]

Definitely joking bro it's pretty obvious in my post above, I never took any of it seriously at all & I hope you did not have to go grab your gun!

I did shoot a bird once with a bb gun, so I'm hard to the core killer!

LOL

I never carried but after I was held at gunpoint, robbed and almost killed and was laid up in the hospital for 6 days with a neurosurgeon contemplating brain surgery, I changed my mind.

 

[SicKSKills]

this forum has gotten so uptight and lame lately.... Greed?? Whats wrong with wanting to move forward in life?? this is my one and only job, its what ive been relying on, and will continue to, for years to put food on the table and keep the lights on...

BUT, more importantly, it is my passion first, i only do it as a job because it was what i loved and made me happy, and there was a demand for vs working in a office all day pushing pencils like some of the tightwads around here these days who's office jobs failed them and they are disgruntled about their current state in life...

like i said i work damn hard to make sure i provide quality over quantity, always have always will, thats why this thread was an intention to find new and better genetics that people love, and want. hate if you want to.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Im hearing you for sure man ,, good work deserves good compensation ..
I think its a case of being able to offer something different than the other folks in the market, a niche ...
You know where they are all offering kushes ,, you go for someting more on the sativa side, it can work , i know ive managed to do such a thing ..

 

[bs0]

Nothing greedy about getting compensated at market rate for the risks you take. Especially if the person claiming it of others is a vendor themselves.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

price is too high or quality ain't there. drive down to sd. there's always people looking for herb....

 

[konstantgrdnr]

If you build it they will come.

http://emeraldmountaincollective.com/

 

[Hammerhead]

tv show border wars was just talking about those bundles they bust the illegals with trying to cross the border. 800$ per lb is what they sale that crap for.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

yea the cherry kush is real nice my friends running some in his greenhouse and they are coming out fat as fuck with nice pink purple hues. another homie just picked some indoor cherry kush (aka cherry pie) and that stuff was strong as hell. too expensive though alll that shits going to the clubs for highball right now. people are trying to jack their prices up real quick before flood season starts...

 

[SicKSKills]

price is too high or quality ain't there. drive down to sd. there's always people looking for herb....

not really the driving type, but you are more than welcome to drive up anytime, ive already put in my work and grown it....

 

[BlueberryLovr]

...but I'm sure it's not a damn kush these freaks around here call everything a kush lmao

Yup. Saw an Obama Kush the other day. Lots of "kush" here with no kush traits.

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Originally Posted by SOTF420
Love the teenage wannabe thugs in this thread! Classic!

"By the way, I would get all my vato loco homeys then we would throw up gang signs and shoot everyone with our Ak-47's and let our pitbulls eat them when they are dead while we have sex with their girlfriends and we smoke their weed! Then we would get back in our lowriders and go play spades in the park and smoke a blunt holmes. Yeah. Then go water my Original Gangster Kush plants. "

Dominoe Motherfucker !!!!

Lols

 

[Super_Silver]

People who complain about the price of good herb and complain that getting 3,000 for a pound is somehow being greedy, you try paying the price of a PG&E electric bill on top of cali rent prices and get back to me. Add in the knowledge it takes to grow high quality herb AND maximize your yield, the $25-45 an hour you pay your workers who you TRUST to come in and trim up your room and 3,000 doesnt seem so high a price anymore.

Complain to the dispensaries who are low-balling growers and high-balling customers.

 

[David762]

I hear you.

I hear you.

the pioneers of the cali scene did it in the 70s and 80s
the glow from the owsley acid was still apparent and conditions were ripe for sharing and caring
we will never see this come out of cali again unless its legalized in November
will legal be a good thing-no-it'll be fucking great-we will see an evolution in ganja on a scale that has not happened since Sam-this will be bad for seed sellers though since the sharing and caring pendulum swing will guarantee it-no more buying $200 packs of seed!!
i would love nothing more than to work in ganja R&D in cali, this time next year attempting to create med strains/clones of the highest order

I predict that if Prop 19 passes, the Cali market will split between MMJ users focusing on cheeper better indica strains, top dollar connoisseur landrace sativas for recreation, and cheeper mids hybrids for the "unwashed masses". The cartels will either go out of business or drastically lower their prices.

The real money will be in the sativa strains IMHO. And yes, I would love to be knee-deep in Cali ganja R&D this time next year myself.

 

[David762]

Okay SOTF420. I yield.

Okay SOTF420. I yield.

It's gonna pass, mark my Sweet Tooth.

I am going to have to put Sweet Tooth at the top of my bucket list.

And sing your praises no doubt when I get a taste. LOL. THX!

 

[BlueberryLovr]

People who complain about the price of good herb and complain that getting 3,000 for a pound is somehow being greedy, you try paying the price of a PG&E electric bill on top of cali rent prices and get back to me. Add in the knowledge it takes to grow high quality herb AND maximize your yield, the $25-45 an hour you pay your workers who you TRUST to come in and trim up your room and 3,000 doesnt seem so high a price anymore.

Complain to the dispensaries who are low-balling growers and high-balling customers.

Yup. Lots of dispensaries low-ball CA growers. Quotes for <$3000/lb of quality herb (that they'd then sell for $50-60 per 1/8th) is ridiculous but it happens.

 

[SOTF420]

The disp's also have alot more expenses and major overhead (as well as risk) than most people, they do have to turn a profit somewhere and selling clones and cookies is not gonna pay the bills. Like for instance paying everyone who works there, legal fees to lawyers, taxes, commercial rent, electric, commercial business insurance(s), supplies for store, advertising, and all kinds of other shit many can't imagine. Doubling their money put out to buy product is really not the biggest of a profit margin compared to some other businesses in the medical/pharma industry. After all the expenses they are surely not doubling up their funds with every pound of herb they buy, many make just enough to stay in business and keep everything rolling. Plus, employees and owners gotta smoke too!

 

[Rainman]

Love all the experts on the Cali scene that arent even in Cali.

 

[SOTF420]

Exactly, took the words right out of my beak.

 

[BlueberryLovr]

mm good points, SOTF. It is so easy to forget others' expenses when we're focused on filling our own wallets. I'm sure a lot of dispensaries are still profitable, though. But of course their success would be wholly dependent on the number of patients.

Over-simplified math: Assume 1lb bought for $3k and then sold for $50 1/8th: 128*50 - 3000 = $3400 from selling 1 lb in 128 1/8th units. $6800 from 256 1/8s. Indeed, quite tough for fledgling or unpopular dispensaries if they can't unload inventory to cover operating costs (including restocking inventory). Now a popular place with high turnover would just make a killing. And yes yes I know what I said above is stupid and over-simplified, but it's just a small tidbit to consider.

 

[Space Case]

Over-simplified math: Assume 1lb bought for $3k and then sold for $50 1/8th: 128*50 - 3000 = $3400 from selling 1 lb in 128 1/8th units. $6800 from 256 1/8s. Indeed, quite tough for fledgling or unpopular dispensaries if they can't unload inventory to cover operating costs (including restocking inventory). Now a popular place with high turnover would just make a killing. And yes yes I know what I said above is stupid and over-simplified, but it's just a small tidbit to consider.

Uh....your math isn't right there....

$50 eighths=$6400 per lb. in sales. Most Bay area dispensaries charge $55-60 an eight, PLUS tax. $7040-$7680 per lb. sales more realistically, and taxes aren't included, so you can't take that out as an expense. Say they only charg $50 though, and say they move about 4 lbs per month, which isn't much, but you can figure that to about 2 1/4 oz. per day, or 18 eighths. This is pretty low volume for most spots. That means they are getting a net profit of $3400 per week or $13600 per month, considering they are buying at $3000 per lb. Say you have 2 employees and rent and electricity. Say you pay $4000 per month rent (utilities included) for the retail location. If you are running a location of such low volume, you don't need more than 1 employee at $2000 per month.

Thats still a profit $7,600 per month, or $91,200. They should be living just fine moving only 4 lbs per month....

Now the grower's math...thats a whole 'nother story...