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Cali regs allow 25% PM coverage, hair, poop and all your fave pesticides!

Chunkypigs

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Bugs, Mold and Excrement

Welcome to the Brave New World of California Cannabis

On November 16, 2017, California officials released a new set of regulations for cannabis manufacturing, testing, and growing. In many respects, these updates are a significant improvement to the initial draft regulations, however, some major problems remain.

Two important issues pertain to regulations on mold and foreign filth, which are absurdly loose. And unlike the initial proposal, no statement as to the rationale behind the new regulations has been released.

Safety requirements:

Allowable limits for contaminants including pesticides, solvents, and microbes are described in sections 5718-5723 of the new regulations. These regulations have fixed a major issue in the initial draft where two different units were confused – parts per million by weight (µg/g) and parts per million by volume. Now solvent and pesticide limits are given in µg/g.

Other significant changes:

Solvent limits are largely improved. Certain class 2 solvents have been banned, as Project CBD had previously suggested.
Pesticide limits have swung from being very strict to being overly lax. The environmental concerns related to pesticide overuse appear more problematic than the health effects for consumers.
Many pesticide safety limits are still based on regulations for tobacco, which is entirely inappropriate.
Required tests for microbial contamination are minimal.
Limits on mold – one of the most common contaminants of cannabis – are nearly nonexistent. A product is deemed to pass regulations if less than 1/4th of it is covered in mold.

Solvents - §5718

Solvents are broken into two categories for the purpose of regulations. Category 1 solvents are banned and are not permissible at any detectable levels in cannabis products. Category 2 solvents are allowed up to set action limits that depend on the solvent in question and whether the product is inhaled or not. Action limits for non-inhaled products were appropriate in the initial draft proposal and have not changed.

The initial proposed regulations allowed for the use of highly dangerous solvents, including benzene, which Project CBD suggested be banned from use in cannabis manufacturing. We also suggested that regulators consider banning “class 2” solvents such as chloroform, since they are unnecessary for producing most kinds of cannabis extracts.1 The new regulations now ban the use of benzene and some class 2 solvents like chloroform, but allow other class 2 solvents, including hexane. (Hexane is rarely used to extract oil from cannabis, but is sometimes used to clean the oil of pesticides or other adulterants.) Although Project CBD hopes that cannabis manufacturers avoid using hexane to extract or clean oil, we believe these regulations are appropriate.

Each permissible solvent has a maximum allowable concentration in inhaled cannabis products (e.g. vape cartridges). In the initial draft proposal, these limits were based on safety data from California’s Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA), although the limits were improperly calculated due to confusion with units. (“Parts per million” can have multiple meanings, as mentioned above. See the previous Project CBD statement for more detail.) The new limits are particularly stringent for some class 2 solvents and are overly lenient for ethanol residues.2 On the whole, the new limits are sensible.


Pesticides - §5719

Similar to solvents, pesticides are broken into banned pesticides, which are not allowed at any detectable concentration, and allowed pesticides. The action limits for permitted pesticides depend on whether the product is inhaled or not.

The regulations were released with only 5 days for public comments – including the weekend – and were not accompanied by any statement of reasons explaining how new safety limits were determined. As such, Project CBD’s comments on the new pesticide regulations point out potential problems without necessarily suggesting how these issues could be fixed or their extent.

In the new regulations, the list of banned pesticides has shrunk dramatically, from 42 to 21. One of these now-allowed pesticides is a neonicotinoid (acetamiprid) and four others have “high acute toxicity” to humans, according to the initial statement of reasons (bifenthrin, cyfluthrin, naled, and abamectin). Most of the rest of the now-allowed pesticides were banned in the original proposal due to environmental concerns, including myclobutanil (often sold Eagle-20).

The initial set of draft regulations on pesticides were very strict in some regards. The limit of detection (LOD) – which is the lowest concentration of a compound that can be detected reliably – was arbitrarily set at 0.01 – 0.02 µg/g. This is lower than the actual LOD of pesticides in cannabis for most labs. This has changed – now labs will determine their LODs scientifically and list these LODs on lab reports.3 This is an important fix.

To reiterate: because no statement of reasons has been released, we do not know the rationale behind the limits for pesticides on non-inhaled products. But we can say with some certainty that it is not based on the relative safety of these pesticides.

Safe limits for pesticide ingestion are given as the acceptable daily intake (ADI) or acute reference dose (ARfD), and are reported by the World Health Organization. The ADI indicates a level of pesticide ingestion that is considered safe for chronic daily use, which makes sense for food or medicine. Converting the ADI into a limit for a pesticide in cannabis products depends on the amount of product that is consumed. If the limits were based on safe ingestion limits, the ratio of the ADI to the action limit would be constant. In the current proposal, this ratio varies from 2.5 to 750, a 300-fold difference. Pesticides like trifloxystrobin, bifenazate, and permethrin have very high action limits compared to their toxicity when ingested.

It appears that the limits were not based on environmental concerns either: Of the seven least regulated pesticides (i.e. those with the highest allowable limits), five were originally banned due to potential ground water contamination.

For inhaled products, the limits still appear to be based on tobacco, as described in the initial statement of reasons. This may be because very little is known about the effects of heating or burning pesticides (an information vacuum attributable to lobbying from the tobacco industry). Some pesticides will, in fact, become safer when burned, while many others will break down to much more toxic compounds.

The EPA has previously stated that it need not study the health effects of burning pesticides at concentrations below 0.1 µg/g in cigarettes because those individuals are already smoking tobacco. After all, nicotine is the insecticide upon which neonicotinoids are based.

It may be true that inhaling less than 0.1 µg/g of most pesticides is safe. But regulations need to be based on scientific data. If safety data on burning and inhaling pesticides is not available, then the law should include provisions to be updated as new data emerges.

The outcomes of the tobacco industry’s war against science should never be used as the basis of safety regulations for another industry. Tobacco is the leading cause of preventable deaths in the United States, killing roughly half a million people every year. This is precisely because the tobacco industry lobbied to ensure that scientific data on health and safety was not used to inform laws or regulations. That should not be the starting point for any aspect of the emerging cannabis industry.

Foreign material - §5722

The foreign material testing, described in §5722, is beyond the pale. §5722(e) states that:

A sample shall be deemed to have passed the foreign material testing if the presence of foreign material does not exceed:
(1) 1/4 of the total sample area covered by sand, soil, cinders, or dirt;
(2) 1/4 of the total sample area covered by mold;
(3) 1 insect fragment, 1 rodent hair, or 1 count mammalian excreta per 3.0 grams; or
(4) 1/4 of the total sample area covered by an imbedded foreign material.

A small piece of chocolate weighs about 3.5 grams. Under the new regulations, a 16-piece chocolate bar would be considered acceptable if four pieces were covered in dirt, four more were covered in mold, and each of the 16 pieces had an insect part or rat poop on it.

Microbes - §5720
There is an unprecedented change in regulations on microbial contamination. Cannabis is not required to be free of mold nor are labs required to test for mold. The only limit on mold is given in (2) of the foreign filth section quoted above, which states that up to 1/4th of a product can be covered in mold.

Under the new proposal, products only need to be screened for three microbes: pathogenic E. coli, salmonella, and in the case of inhaled products, aspergillus. Since no statement of reasons were released with the regulations, it is not clear why California is so loose with microbes. Giving regulators the benefit of the doubt, it may be that they are trying not to restrict the use of beneficial microbes, an organic growing practice that uses non-harmful microbes as an alternative to pesticides. But mold is one of the most common contaminants on cannabis. It is absolutely essential to test for mold on cannabis, particularly when grown indoors.

Phase in of safety testing - §5715

The regulations have been released with just over a month before they will be implemented. To ease the burden on labs, testing will be phased in over the course of a year. This gives labs time to develop and validate methods for each kind of product and each kind of test.

On January 1, 2018, all legal products must be tested for cannabinoids, allowed solvents, banned pesticides, microbes, and product homogeneity.4 On July 1, 2018, three additional tests will be required: banned solvents, allowed pesticides, and foreign material. On January 1, 2019, heavy metals, mycotoxins, and possibly terpenes will also be tested before sales.

Project CBD hopes that terpene testing will become more commonplace, as this will help to illuminate the therapeutic properties of these important plant components.
Other regulations

There are many important aspects of the new regulations that address issues beyond consumer safety. Here are some key points:

There is effectively no longer a limit on the size of grows. Each license allows a group or individual to grow up to one acre of cannabis, but there is no limit on the number of licenses a group can get. Project CBD shares the concerns of farmers who are worried that this will allow large-scale agriculture to push out smaller, more sustainable gardens. Privileging wealthy out-of-state investors and big players at the expense of family farmers is bad policy with unhealthy long-term implications for California’s economy and environment.
Law enforcement are allowed to copy the materials, records, and books of any employee of any licensed cannabis business. See §5800(a)(4).
Recreational products can’t be given away for free. Medical patients can be given free products through a compassionate care program, but this program must be run by a local jurisdiction, not a cannabis business. Moreover, only licensed retailers (e.g. a legal dispensary), not product manufacturers, can provide free products to patients. See §5411.
Medical patients under the age of 18 cannot be served at a dispensary. Their caregiver must buy product for them. See §5400(b).
Edibles are required to contain no more than 10 mg THC per serving and 100 mg THC per package. Other products must contain less than 1000 mg or 2000 mg THC per package, depending if the product is recreational or medical. See §40306.
Edibles cannot contain any other addictive substances, including caffeine, alcohol, and nicotine. Exceptions are made for cannabis chocolate, tea, and coffee. See §40300(b).
Labs are required to be certified by one of two groups (the International Standard Oganization or International Electrotechnical Commission). This will help ensure the accuracy and consistency of lab tests, which has been problematic in the past.
It is now much easier to get a license to do ethanol extraction, since it is considered a “nonvolatile solvent.” See the definition of “nonvolatile solvent” in §40100.
 

Chunkypigs

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Here's the PDF on the latest regs.

fuggin ICmag's inserting an extra "s" into all weblinks now and you must remove the s to make the link work.

https://www.bcc.ca.gov/law_regs/bcc_prop_text_reg.pdf

here's the pesticide info with allowable limits for smoking then eating.

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MJPassion

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Does the mold clause include ANY SPECIFIC mold or ALL mold (in general).

Legalization is keeping the black market strong!
 

bigtacofarmer

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Just makes it easier to get consumers to boycott coorperate weed. Vote them out of business by not buying their products.
 

bigtacofarmer

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Each sheep needs connected with on a subject they relate too. I have coverted many to eat better and change the way they shop.
 

DuskrayTroubador

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But dimwits just wanna instagram and facesnap like "zomg pre-rolled joints at Sunoco!1!1!! #Cali #bestcoast"

Fuck 'em. Let 'em smoke mold.
 

PetFlora

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Each sheep needs connected with on a subject they relate too. I have coverted many to eat better and change the way they shop.

You've had better luck than I, and my friends can afford it.

That said, too many items in so called health food stores, ie Whole Foods, are barely better (if that) than similar items in a regular grocery store. It all boils down to taking personal responsibility to learn about what goes into ones mouth

Even 'Organic' is being diluted by big agri
 

bigtacofarmer

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Real food comes from a garden not a package.

The turning point for me was the realization that absolutely everything is watered down, altered or fucked up somehow unless I was careful to produce it myself or carefully make sure I purchased the right one. Not just food, it goes for everything. Once you identify your health and money as a target for someone else to profit off of it becomes way more important to not support the people fucking things up.

I would love to homestead and the research on how led me to feel it most.
 

bigtacofarmer

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It is also a misconception that eating healthy real food is more expensive. We order our organic grains and nuts in bulk. Which helps alot. And when eating proper food it gives you more fuel leading to eating less and feeling better. We also help a few farmers and have converted most of my city lot to a garden. We barely shopped for a few months this year.
 

Chunkypigs

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But dimwits just wanna instagram and facesnap like "zomg pre-rolled joints at Sunoco!1!1!! #Cali #bestcoast"

Fuck 'em. Let 'em smoke mold.

Ha Ha, I came back to this thread to update because of a post on IG by JungleBoyz where they had posted last years regs on their feed.

this is an interesting breakdown of the project CBD article and the huge changes this will make in 2018 by Kevin Jodrey.

this is the link to these regs he's*talking about. page 92 insecticides start.
http://www.bcc.ca.gov/law_regs/bcc_prop_text_reg.pdf

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Tudo

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If they "allow" it then that's what'll be in the big quantities of it. Like adding manitol to blow. Every kilo adds up!


The fkers. Try to find someone local who gives a damn and be a loyal customer
 

Andyo

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none so blind

none so blind

But most consumers like their blind folds & choose ignorance/appathy over education!

Well those that smoke or eat contaminated weed are a herd of fools
Let them consume it .Fuck their ignorance .
Simple answer is grow your own.And if too sick find a good grower who washes his arse ,and uses no pesticides or solvents

we wash our arses where i live not smear them with toilet paper.:moon:
 

Chunkypigs

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all these regs are designed to allow weed for extraction to get grown like corn in massive fields with no human touch in the process.

so there will be lowers covered in mud, uppers with PM and bud rot and the whole field can get oversprayed
with the Zika virus mosquito killer and it will still pass after distillation for edibles and vape pens.

I'll bet you they spray it with an herbicide when it's ripe and let it dry in the fields standing too, cheapest way to go for an industrial feedstock.
 

Easy7

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Ya but there are a lot of folks (trump supporters and all that pile of brainwashed garbage) that buy into the monsanto propaganda and think roundup is harmless. I use it on poison ivy but not near my veggies.
 

led05

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Ya but there are a lot of folks (trump supporters and all that pile of brainwashed garbage) that buy into the monsanto propaganda and think roundup is harmless. I use it on poison ivy but not near my veggies.

This is great, you paint a wide brush claiming a huge chunk of America as brainwashed garbage and believing in Monsanto simply for whom they voted for, of which the two are completely unrelated.

What’s even better is you then go on to claim to use Roundup and thus YOUR directly supporting Monsanto, just not for your veggies, sooo that’s cool... ha

Thanks for making me chuckle
 

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