BUZZ KILL...problem-do i roll with clones or wait???long for autos to arrive??

[hicksticky]

So heres the issue i want to get rolling on, just getting everything squared away for my indoor now/outdoor later grow, organic soil(limited funds) I can get some pineapple express and i think Bubblegum Kush clones ASAIC, or i was getting very tempted to order out for some autos (seeds), Kandy Kush,black cream, Tangilo rapidio..... I never sent out before and not knowing what that in-tales,(complications, wait time from u.k. to states)and so on..

What i want is the best end result and less over all wait time...

Anyone have any input/experience in these matters?
Ever order out? what the wait approx.?

thank you,

 

[its trypp]

Heya hick. I ordered my seeds from herbiesheadshop.com, and they did arrive 11 days later, which is a reasonable wait for a UK ship imo. And they actually wound up double shipping my order to me which I will never complain about free seeds lol.

But as everyone has told me, if you are going to grow an auto seed, as soon as it germs you should put it into its final place of growing to avoid losing precious days of growth from shock. Cheers

 

[its trypp]

Oh also I suppose I should tell you that autos are more structured in their grow cycle than normal plants are. Since with a clone you can veg out for almost as long as youd like, it will take longer for you to get a harvest but larger harvest over all. Autos will be done in a relatively fast time period and still have a nice harvest, just not as much quantitatively. (For me that isn't a problem though since I grow indoors and cant start a grow any time I like, it's more in consideration of if you want to do an outdoor grow or not)

 

[hicksticky]

Thanks trypp good points, i was reading up on autos they say some strains will do what they do in any light schedule like 18/6 so while i am still veging my clones the autos will be happy......at leased thats what i took from what i read.

so i kinda thinking on both, clone now and autos when they get here, as far as getting the autos i been browsin around trying to find a good shop that takes criedt cards so i skip the wait time of send them the money and then them sending the goods.....

Any recomendations? also autos any you think would be worth the wait? (cheap,good yield,fast)

Again thanks

 

[hicksticky]

Oh also I suppose I should tell you that autos are more structured in their grow cycle than normal plants are. Since with a clone you can veg out for almost as long as youd like, it will take longer for you to get a harvest but larger harvest over all. Autos will be done in a relatively fast time period and still have a nice harvest, just not as much quantitatively. (For me that isn't a problem though since I grow indoors and cant start a grow any time I like, it's more in consideration of if you want to do an outdoor grow or not)

also can you clone from a clone? is it good to?

 

[its trypp]

No problem lol. I'll link you to some auto's that I have been looking into getting after my harvest with my trans siberian

The problem if you are using the same light for clone and auto is if the auto gets to bloom before the clone does. When in bloom the plant benifits more from the red spectrum of light versus blue spectrum, which is great during veg. So you would have to choose if you wanted your clone to enter bloom early and be just as potentially potent as the auto, or if you want to get a larger crop, where your auto will lose its potency.

Yes, you can clone from a clone from a clone from a clone, etc etc. (As far as my own research has informed me at least.). It's not as if you are "thinning" the plant out genetically or anything like that, simply designating a new "main shoot" to grow from. I say it this way because I compare a clone to the trickery that is used during LST. When you tie down for lst the plant will designate a new main shoot for growth, since it no longer recognizes the main shoot as being there. When you take a clone you remove it from its main shoot, and the plant then designates a new one to continue growing. Thats my understanding of it at least.

Herbiesheadshop.com takes credit/debit cards, and as I said I got my order in 11 days from ordering it.

Here are some of the strains I have been looking at
http://www.herbiesheadshop.com/sweet-dark-devil-autoflowering-feminised-seeds-3780
http://www.herbiesheadshop.com/heavyweight-fast-and-vast-autoflowering-feminised-seeds-4648
http://www.herbiesheadshop.com/lowryder-2-autoflowering-feminised-seeds-1542

But there is a huge variety on the site. Look around and see what makes you happy.

 

[hicksticky]

solid stuff Trypp, sry for drainin ya but i got the hook in ya for some anwsers..lol as far as the light situation it would still mess with the plant if that certain light spec. wasnt directed on it but still in the same area? wher as i would be runnin 18/6 for both.
and second but maybe not last hows that siberia, i was lookin/droolin at that and was thinkin about it being one that i get.. but i am trying to find out all that i can before i bite... does well outside?

Again sorry and Thank you, you rock for put up with my noob ass

 

[its trypp]

No problem, I am a bit of a noob as well, but did as much research as I could before I decided to grow

as far as the trans siberian, this is my first plant of her so I wont know how delicious she is until june probably lol.

As for lighting, as long as you have different SOURCE lights, you are fine and the plant will only benifit slightly more (if at all) with extra lighting from nearby lights. As lights lose their photosynthetic potency the further they are from the plant, any effect an adjacent light will have on another plant will be minimal at best. So if you have clones under light A and then have seeds starting under light B, and the seeds reach budding before the clones under Light A do, and switch light b to a budding light, then you are fine for the most part. Since autos will bud on their own without having to switch over lighting cycles, the veg cycle for the clones shouldnt bother the autos too much. as I said just be ready to switch the light that the autos are under to something that is more red spectrum heavy.

Now as far as indoor versus outdoor growing... from my search of information auto flowers tend to turn out the best under the more heavily controlled conditions from an indoor grow. The plant is less exposed to improper temps, humidity, insect predators, etc. It's also a lot easier to control an indoor light cycle compared to controlling the sun