Butane honey oil for dummies

[Gray Wolf]

As many of ya'll who have processed BHO know, water can find its way into the solution from the ice that forms at the edge of the evaporating pool. I have found two ways that work well to prevent that happening.

The first is that if the humidity isn't too high, simply setting the evaporation dish in hot water throughout the extraction process, not just to purge, will suffice.

When the humidity gets too high, we use a deep stainless bain marie vessel, so that the edge of the evaporating pool has a deep layer of butane floating over it, so that the moisture laden air is unable to reach the dew point area. That bain marie vessel sits in another bain marie container, full of hot water.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Because I spoke with the guy who made it, thats why.

There was no water involved so there was no water left in the oil. Its that simple kids. There was butane left and is crackled, funny you have a hard time accepting that.




Why do you think its water when I assure you NO water got into the batch? Butane sizzles .

your buddy was unaware of how the water got in. you aren't thinking of all the possibilities, and limit yourself.


and when does butane sizzle? i have never heard a lighter sizzle. butane just lights on fire, almost silently.

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

As many of ya'll who have processed BHO know, water can find its way into the solution from the ice that forms at the edge of the evaporating pool. I have found two ways that work well to prevent that happening.

The first is that if the humidity isn't too high, simply setting the evaporation dish in hot water throughout the extraction process, not just to purge, will suffice.

When the humidity gets too high, we use a deep stainless bain marie vessel, so that the edge of the evaporating pool has a deep layer of butane floating over it, so that the moisture laden air is unable to reach the dew point area. That bain marie vessel sits in another bain marie container, full of hot water.

that's how you got water in the bho tokingham. you're getting schooled kiddo. either that or you're just a good troll..

gray wolf, can't you just put the bho in an oil bath and avoid the condensation all together?

 

[Gray Wolf]

that's how you got water in the bho tokingham. you're getting schooled kiddo. either that or you're just a good troll..

gray wolf, can't you just put the bho in an oil bath and avoid the condensation all together?

Yes, and that would sure beat hauling hot water, but the fondue pot that I use for my oil bath doesn't have explosion proof controls.

I have set the water dish on a labratory hotplate, that has explosion proof controls, and kept it up to temperature that way.

 

[juicepuddle]

Because I spoke with the guy who made it, thats why.

There was no water involved so there was no water left in the oil. Its that simple kids. There was butane left and is crackled, funny you have a hard time accepting that.




Why do you think its water when I assure you NO water got into the batch? Butane sizzles .

Your obviously having a hard time reading. This has been discussed to death. Let me say again, this has been discussed to death, also splashes are not the only source of moisture hahah, ever heard of humidity? Or auto budder?

I'm done trying to help you, why come to this forum when your opinions are already fully developed. You don't even fathom that it could be moisture so why should I even humor you.

 

[Hammerhead]

its not a complete failure I now know where the moisture comes from

 

[mad librettist]

jeez, I have gotten water into my ethanol hash before, just by putting it in the fridge before scraping. When i took it out ( humid day) everything was fine for 30 seconds, then my oil was suddenly all wet.

It crackled and popped like crazy too.

 

[Tokingham]

jeez, I have gotten water into my ethanol hash before, just by putting it in the fridge before scraping. When i took it out ( humid day) everything was fine for 30 seconds, then my oil was suddenly all wet.

It crackled and popped like crazy too.

ALL ethanol already has water in it, you cannot get 200 proof. so your comment does not apply.

 

[Tokingham]

Your obviously having a hard time reading. This has been discussed to death. Let me say again, this has been discussed to death, also splashes are not the only source of moisture hahah, ever heard of humidity? Or auto budder?

I'm done trying to help you, why come to this forum when your opinions are already fully developed. You don't even fathom that it could be moisture so why should I even humor you.

I am constantly learning from you. Just not how you would think because your lessons teach me what not to follow. So as long as I am not like you I will do just fine.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

no.

why tell people what to do, and also infer we would be ignorant haters if we do not? you are almost always abrasive and confrontational in your posts.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Even though the people arguing their opinion only know what been typed online and nothing else.

No water go into the butane and I know that for fact, you can assume all you want but that only makes u an ass.

The guy vacume purged his stuff a few times so it wasn't the water left. Water and oil do not bond or mix, butane and oil do mix so it harder to vacuum purge out the butane than the water.

I know butane will crackle and sizzle from experience. Not speculation.




I call Bullshit, provide some sort of proof or you are a liar.

maybe some day you will be more open minded and can learn from those who have already spent much time researching to learn proper information.

first off, its not an opinion that what crackles in oil is water, its based on years of observation and tests by many people. almost every experienced oil maker here knows what the truth is in this matter, and none of them agree with you. Must mean something, probably, you should not have such strong beliefs, then its possible to change to allow new information give you a more accurate representation of reality.

as for assuming, you are classicly guilty here: you said yourself you did not make the oil, and even if you did, there are ways the water can get in invisibly to you. a true statement i can make about this is that every time i make oil i cannot assume there is no water in it, until it has been tested with use. you never know for sure if some got in unless you test after. people who say the oil crackles from water are helping you learn what they already proved to themselves.

water does not purge well out of oil, its stuck in there worse than butane. you have to spot cook it out really hot, if you see a drop, but if it was formed by cold dish use, it would take prolonged heat with it spread thin.

light some pure butane on fire and see for yourself, no crackle or sizzle.

light the bubbles on your plate of oil purging, the bubbles light up with almost 0 sound.

take oil that vapes with no crackle, add some water in it and observe.

 

[Gray Wolf]

From the extract artist group:



another use of dry ice for solvent extractions. try it before you ignorantly hate on it.

What an interesting thought!

Such an unusual claim begs pictures and actual weights. Do you have any to share?

 

[Gray Wolf]

ALL ethanol already has water in it, you cannot get 200 proof. so your comment does not apply.

Clearly you haven't checked or you would know 200 proof is readily available.

Just one more thing you are damn sure of that ain't so.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by Tokingham
I know butane will crackle and sizzle from experience. Not speculation.

I call Bullshit, provide some sort of proof or you are a liar.

__________________________________________

Since you are the one with extraordinary claim, you are the one that the onus of extraordinary proof falls on.

I am drawn to remember that, "When the pickpocket meets the saint, he sees only his pockets."

I'm a little slow sometimes, but I call bullshit and suggest that the onus is on you to prove to the rest of us that you and Pineolene are not one and the same person posting on the same thread.

 

[mad librettist]

ALL ethanol already has water in it, you cannot get 200 proof. so your comment does not apply.

ah, i see. the crackling I attribute to water getting in from condensation was actually caused by.... water in my ethanol?

just to be clear, you are saying my comment, inferring water made my oil crackle, does not apply because the crackling could be due to water?

 

[pineolene]

What an interesting thought!

Such an unusual claim begs pictures and actual weights. Do you have any to share?

just join fbook and friend me. I'll add you to the group, we are way beyond this forum. Then again, we have actual scientists and representatives from the major cannabinoid labs keeping us from bullshitting too much (instead of sam just talking shit even tho he is not a scientist). We are an actual group of professional extract artists making medical marijuana for dispensaries and ourselves, you belong with us. Naturally, there is no trolling/flaming because most of us use our real names and have real careers in this field (no financial modding either). Not taking posts out of our closed group is the only rule (yeah, i'm a pathological rule breaker) but I had to post that one just for you GW because you seemed skeptical of the group's techniques. I heard about you from the group GW...

Interesting tec indeed, much like D/I in the pyrex pan... good bho tec that is nowhere on this thread except from me. Holler at ya bwoi!
Dry ice to improve the bho extraction AND suppress bho explosions/fires.

 

[mad librettist]

pathological?

yes.

 

[Tokingham]

Clearly you haven't checked or you would know 200 proof is readily available.

Just one more thing you are damn sure of that ain't so.

Most states ethanols are federally regulated, an ATF permit is required to purchase 190- and 200-proof ethanol in most states.

Its not as easy as 'readily available'

Why must you be so argumentative?

 

[Tokingham]

Originally Posted by Tokingham
I know butane will crackle and sizzle from experience. Not speculation.

I call Bullshit, provide some sort of proof or you are a liar.

__________________________________________

Since you are the one with extraordinary claim, you are the one that the onus of extraordinary proof falls on.

I am drawn to remember that, "When the pickpocket meets the saint, he sees only his pockets."

I'm a little slow sometimes, but I call bullshit and suggest that the onus is on you to prove to the rest of us that you and Pineolene are not one and the same person posting on the same thread.

The MSDS of the (vector)butane used did not say any h2o was in it so there was not water in the tane. the only thing left to sizzle and crackle is butane.

Check the IP's fool then you'll know we are not the same, come on now.

 

[pineolene]

The MSDS of the (vector)butane used did not say any h2o was in it so there was not water in the tane. the only thing left to sizzle and crackle is butane.

Check the IP's fool then you'll know we are not the same, come on now.

bho absorbs moisture from the air. haha, did someone just suggest we are the same person??!!! lmao @ how things go around here... you see why I prefer groups where people use their real names. come on guys, thats not my style at all. haters gonna hate!

dont let them get you down tokingham... more fuel for the fire.