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busted my unforunate story

billycw

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first off this is the first time i have touched a computer in over a year. i was a member of cw for a long time, and i'm very depressed to hear what happened to that wonderful online community. so thanks to icmag for filling a void in alot of peoples hearts.
let me start by giving you alittle backstory on myself. about 15 years ago i fractured a vertabre in my spine and herniated a disc. ever since then i have lived in constant pain. i was working in a major company for a while but had alot of labor involved. of course my back flared up and was given the option to quit or go on disability. being i don't like taking money for nothing i quit.
i chose to self medicate with marijauna instead of the somas and vicadan my doctors had been feeding me for 6 years. my stomach could not take anymore abuse. its my body i can choose what i put into it.
i chose to grow my own, and as i did i found a small group of sufferers that could use my help. this is what happened next. i might be a little veg on some details to protect myself because i'm still in the middle of it.

ARREST NIGHT:
one night last year after 10pm me and my girlfriend were about to watch a movie when there was a knock at the door. thinking it was a friend or family we opened the door without looking. well it was 2 cops saying that our car had been vandilized, so stupid us we stepped out to look at our cars. right when that door closed behind us, cops came at us with their guns drawn, they told us they susspected that this was a grow house and that we were being detained. i instantly asked for a lawer to be presant, which was ignored, than they started asking a bunch of questions, still out side my house, and we were dening all of it and acting innocent.

next a police car pulls up,the first one the others had parked somewhere and walked, and we were told to get in. at the police station we were put in holding cells of all concrete. if i sat my back hurt, if i stood for a while my back hurt. i was then taken out and questioned extinsively without the miranda being read, without a audio tape, and after asking for my lawer countless times. then the f*** threatens to take my girlfriend, who had no part in the grow, to jail and all the things that will happen to her and he'd make sure of that. so on his word and against my better judgement all i said was its all me. she knows nothing, everything is mine. thats all i would say to him.
next i was taken to jail, without my house even being searched yet or any real evidance. they took my girl back to the house to do the search warrent. the whole time they were ripping my house apart, they were sexually harrasing my girlfriend who had to sit on a chair and watch. they kept on asking her out and making daragatory remarks about me, and at somepoints made graphic sexual inuindos to her and a couple other things i'll leave out.

in all i had over 50 plants going. they took my cars, cameras, computers, dvds, posters, books,grow eqp., pipes, a little money, pictures of my girlfriend, and tons of other useless stuff that had nothing to do with marijauna plants. they just took everything they wanted.

HOW IT HAPPENED:
the cops had a hydroponics store staked out and were profiling customers and following some people leaving. all they saw me with is a co2 tank. that is it. after getting fustrated from watching my house and seeing no illegal activity or traffic of any kind, they also did trash pulles and found nothing, they chose to come to my door.
the warrent which they sent to the judge was all lies. it qoated me saying all kinds of things and also my girlfriend was qoated saying all kinds of things and she never evan talked. on those lies they got their search warrent.
i am facing over 20years if connvicted of all the charges. plea is at 7 years right now. and to this day i have never been read my miranda rights.

on top of that we were told if we charged sexual harrasment on the cops it would just make it harder on ourselves.

CONCLUTION:
watch your self around grow shops and never go to the grow after visiting one, never trust police, and be in a state thats medical friendly, and your guilty until proven innocent.

hope this helps someone avoid a situation like mine for i wish it on no one.

if anyone has any questions i'll try to answer as best i can.

stay safe and keep up the good fight!
 

robotwithdreams

Active member
Veteran
my heart really sank reading this. Im so sorry this has happend to you.

THANKS for sharing and I hope you have a real decent lawyer, this is really horrible but not surprising that cops would do that. :badday:
I have a couple friends who grow for personnal stash and they thought they were just being paranoid about this kind of thing.

GOOD LUCK and keep us updated if you can
 
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im really sorry man, thats absolutely horrible what they did to u two
 

Lord Doobie

Member
with over 50 plants, I guess the sickos feel they can abuse you and your g/f anyway they see fit
all the best...but you may wanna simply move to a place where it's decrim...even legal...and just forget this mess
 
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Guest

damn man. that fucken sucks ass. almost sounds like a movie. shit i wish it was a movie nobody deserves to go thru some bullshit like that. especially someone like u trying to cure your pain. i have a jaw overgrowth and smoke reefer to cure the pain of that,and just to relax. every time ive smoked weed ive never shown an ounce of aggression. but when im drunk as shit, like now. i get crazy u know its like fuck u LEO. Suck my mother fuckin dick. cuz u can lock us up, u can put us on probation, but mother fuckers y0ou will always be wrong. and we are always going to konw that, and karma will bite those chicken shits right in there ass.


good luck to you and your girl. fffFFFUck the police
 

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
a long winded pst from me wouldnt help you atall so ill just say that is seriously fucked up. Best of luck with it, and a curse of syphiliss on the dirty lying donkey-fucker pigs
 

billbob

Member
Good luck. Hope your lawyer does his job. It is sick what really goes on over a plant that is so amazing. Can't believe people allow it to go on. Almost a bad dream if it were not sooo real.
 

billycw

Active member
Veteran
thank you for all the well wishes.

some things i left out are they were a state task force. i was the 6 to get caught from this stake out. they used a tatic known as a mailman clause, being where ever the mailman goes they can go. also they were trained from a seminar in canada about grow tatics.

also left out the fact that we were repediatly called murders because, as they tried to say, weed deals alot of the time go bad and people get killed over my weed. i told them i don't sell weed, which is the truth, but of corse they wouldn't listen or believe me.

also when they searched my house they had no respect for anything. it looked as if a bomb went off inside my house. plates on the floor, silverware dumped out, everything in every closet just thown everywere!

they also took all my seeds i had breed that i will never get back. i was working on a afgan x blueberry strain for my back. and also some ssh x tangerine that help one of my friends with migrains.

i haven't fled the country because i still believe i have a good chance of beating this case because of the illeagal search warrent and the miranda violations. it has also been told to me that once you ask for your lawer the interview is supposed to be stoped. if i get out of this believe me i'm moving out of this country that has done me and my g/f so wrong. it feels like ive been violated. and i thought if you flee to amsterdam your not allowed to leave, and i would like to see the world some day. correct me if i'm wrong? also if i win it might help someone else that was caught with simular tatics.

i could also use some help finding some facts about amount of weight per light. i had 2 1000 watts hps hordeluxe and 1 600 watt hps hordeluxe in my flower room and know with out a dought i couldn't have had the amount they said i had. your help would be appretiated. thanks

it has felt like a bad dream that won't end! hopefully some day.
 

pmorris

Member
billycw said:
it has also been told to me that once you ask for your lawer the interview is supposed to be stoped.

That is correct but the only thing that worries me is how could you prove in court that you did ask for a lawyer?

But I hope you dont have a public pretender. Your best chance is to get a really good lawyer. I hope everything works out man. Sorry to hear this cops are just fucked up and will do or say whatever to bust you.

I was arrested about 3 years ago (caught in the act by a cop) and arrested taken to jail and charged with a felony. I found a really good lawyer had to pay $5,0000 but he got my case dismissed totally even tho i was caught in the act.

Take care
 
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Guest

how many plants should i try to keep to so i only go to jail for a couple years?

sorry buddy :badday:
 

supermanlives

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Veteran
holy shit. sorry to hear it. well i dont have a girlfriend they can scare to make me talk.cops lie and break the rules all the time . i have beaten them before in court. nothing like a good lawyer
 

ColoraDro

Active member
damn man i know how bad this sucks cause i am in the same situation as i am typing this i have 9 Felonie counts against me and 5 against my wife :fsu:

and we too have lost pretty much everything we had i know its hard man but keep fighting thats the only way these fuckers will see that we are serious about what we do :bat:

hangin there bro i am sure everything will be ok :wave:
 

guineapig

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Keep fighting the good fight.....it is heartbreaking to hear stories like this but this is something we all must prepare for, unfortunately.....

All this over a harmless medicine.....

:ying: kind regards from the guineapig :ying:
 
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guineapig said:
Keep fighting the good fight.....it is heartbreaking to hear stories like this but this is something we all must prepare for, unfortunately.....

All this over a harmless medicine.....

:ying: kind regards from the guineapig :ying:

I agree....my heart sunk reading this....Billycw, Coloradro keep your heads up....I dont even know what to say other than i'll be praying for you and your familys... :fsu: :fsu: :fsu: :badday: :badday: :badday:
 

billycw

Active member
Veteran
thanks for the support. i dont get alot of that in my state.

coloradro- sorry to hear your in a simular situation. good luck and hopefully youll beat the case.

to the question of lawer, i do have a pretty good one and my g/f has a better one. i wanted to make sure she gets off. no public dick for us.

does anyone know where i can find the info on weight per light, maybe a manufactures page or somewhere else? my lawer wants to have that info and i cannot find it. they are saying i had way, way, way over what i know for a fact i had. i read somewhere a couple years back like 2lb per 1000watt hps and i cant remember where i saw that number. it would be very helpful if someone could point me in the right direction.

also wanted to tell everyone to keep everything you value(seeds, money, pictures and anything else of value to you) in a seprate place from your garden. you could use a nonregulated vault(some nicer jewelry stores have them) or a securety box at bank, anywhere but your house or the cops will take it. prepare for the worst. just one of the lessons ive learned.

fight for your rights,
billycw
 
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Guest

asshole pigs

asshole pigs

I got off on a tech. blunder seems they had the wrong name and address on the warrant also thier probabable cause was screwey. No doubt I was blitzed. I moved point blank, packed up and went to a nicer kinder place to live not every one can because of family ties and roots.... Don't roll over on yourself, make it difficult for the bastards they will be in hell for enforcing unjust laws.
 
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yamaha_1fan

i got busted with about 30 plants. Probably would have gotten probation but i had priors and I also had other unrelated charges so i wound up doing 10 months on a 1 year state sentence.

Heres the deal on Miranda. They do NOT have to read you your rights. Only if they are using something you said against you. But its a pot smoking druggie and his stoner g/f's word against a highly regarded police officers word whether you got mirandized (sp?). so basically they can say anything they want.

In my case i NEVER should have lost that case. I had 2 of the officers on scene as well as the counties ex-head of narcotics turned private invetigator testify and tell the judge that the claims in the search warrant were false or couldnt verify.

The judge said, well detective xx is a trained narcotics officer so HE knows whats hes talking about, warrant upheld. At that point i was screwed since i was trying to get the search warrant thrown out and all the evidence.

The popo is crooked as hell.

Good luck. dont take the 7 years man. keep fighting. get a private lawyer if you dont already. you dont want to go to prison. prison sucks for a healthy person and would really suck for a person with back issues.
 
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