Brown spots dying leaves

[Villasukka]

Hi,

1 month flowered CBDcrew plants. 20 litres of soil each, i've been feeding Bio Bizz bloom to these.

Still i got massive leaf problems rather quickly, in matter of last two weeks and now one plant looks quite horrible.

I've been adjusting ph with liquid PH down and i have been aiming for the 6.5 range.

Gave some supplemental N with passive "fertilization sticks" when they were in veg, and thought that's enough, but i should have used Bio bizz grow 1ml/litre too, as recommended by biobizz. i did not.

What's going on? Is this a nute burn or a deficit?

Other plants have same issues too, but a lot less.

 

[GoatCheese]

Hello

Has your soil/medium gone very dry lately? ..could be damage from watering them too little.

If the plants are watered frequently enough BUT too little, first tops and fan leaves close to lamps, then fan leaves in general start to yellow, get some brown spots, but may hold their natural shape and waxy-look if they still get some moisture from the soil. When there's even less (relative) moisture in the soil for 2-4 days, some leaves might die/fall off.

When plants are watered too little and HPS/MH lights are on and temps high, the damage can start showing quite fast. The leaves don't have to be super droopy for them to get damage from too little moisture in soil for several days.


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Also..
BioBizz nutes should be all you need for basic nutrients from start to finish.
For veging plants/moms, once the potting soil has run out of nutrients, 2ml of BioBizz Grow seems to be enough for all plants i have grown so far.

Here's a post i made on how i use BioBizz nutrients during 12/12. This is for plants that are medium-feeders
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7408485&postcount=68

This feed schedule could work for plants like C99, Apollo 11, Black Domina, Blueberry and such medium-feeders with little individual tinkering perhaps, but not much. It's a "more or less"-example of how i'm using the BioBizz atm. but it changes around abit all the time.

I wouldn't give them any nutrient stick, try use the BioBizz two-part nutrients like you're supposed to (..but don't feed as heavily as BioBizz suggests, cause it's too much for many strains. Try half dosage at first (LIGHT MIX (common potting soil) SCHEDULE)).
Atleast this way you know how much goes in, and you don't have to think about how much some supplements might add into it = major chance for nute burns/ deficiencies. Bio Bizz doesn't need other NPK-supplements, imo, bud-boosters and additives maybe but not NPK-boosters of any kind.


If you think you might be watering them too little, don't over compensate cause you easily start over-watering them. Up your watering dosage a little and make sure you get enough run off. If they're dry, the first time you can give them a proper soaking, but then start watering them normally, but little more than before.

Hope you find the fix.

 

[ganjygav]

I agree with the above. I'm starting to get yellow up top and I have think it's because I let my soil get too dry a couple of times.
I've just decided to change up to watering less in volume but more frequently.

 

[Kmetak]

Dont use ph up and ph down acids!!! you must use citric acid in biogrow for PH balance!! acids(acid N and acid P) is for mineral fertilizer!! you kill your soil bakterias!

https://www.*********.com/community/threads/biobizz-nutrients-answers-from-biobizz.78899/



good luck

 

[Kmetak]

Biobizz Nutrients: Answers From Biobizz
Discussion in 'Nutrients and Fertilizers' started by Ooopsi, Feb 1, 2016.
Tags: biobizz nutrients
Feb 1, 2016 #1
Ooopsi
Ooopsi
Well-Known Farmer
255
690
93
Hello fellow farmers.

I thought I'd share an email I got from BioBizz concerning different questions that seem to be popping up again and again so here we go.

Question: Everyone knows that charts are just an avarage and every plant is different. But let's say the values given are indeed an avarage of nutes to use and let's say we'd have a plant that has an avarage tolerance to nutrients. Would it be a good idea to really use all the products all together at full dose during an entire grow? Isn't using all products all together making the solution a bit too hot for the plants? Or would this actually be very beneficial? Noeone on forums can tell because nobody has yet used them all, not that I know.

Answer: So, a super interesting topic! Good you askJ First of all : the Grow schedule is not the bible. It is a general guideline that gives the maximum dosages and when to start using which product, or when to stop. If you would use all products at the same time you do not need to worry that much, since you are only using maximum to NPK products: Bio-grow or Fish-Mix and Bio-Bloom. All other products are stimulators that compliment the nutrients, improve assimilation, metabolism, chlorophyll production etc etc etc.
We try to give a divers menu to the plants. If you want to live healthy, you do not eat a hamburger with a hamburger and a hamburger for desert. You’d eat a hamburger, with a salad, some orange juice, a yogurt or cheese for desert and maybe a small digestive afterwards. This is the function of the stimulators: Root-juice, Bio-Heaven, Top-max, Alg-a-Mic and Acti-vera.

Try to see it like this: You use as a basis Bio-grow or Fish-Mix and Bio-Bloom. The stimulators are your tools to guide your plants into the direction you want to go, or enrich them. You make the menu for your plants, depending on the type of plants, their age, the moment in the cycle and of course the type of genetics. Here some key caracters of the stimulators:

Root-juice: besides a root stimulator, it protects the roots again the most common root diseases and protects against over feeding
Alg-a-Mic: repairs damage from overfeeding, boost calcium and magnesium assimilation, boost production of chlorophyll
Top-max: improves density of the flowers and stimulates natural sugar production ( taste improvement )
Bio-heaven: accelerates flowering, boosts mineral assimilation,
Acti-Vera: improves metabolism, full of essential enzymes and amazing for seeds that have just hatched. Aloë vera rules!

Some people simply use all products at the same time. But as soon as you know your favorite genetics inside-out, you use the stimulators as supplements at the moment you think the plants need it.


Question: Presuming we would be sticking to the official chart, should we be feeding nutrients every time we water the plants or alternate water with nutes? People actually argue about how long it takes for the nutrients to become active in the soil and how long it takes for the plant to react to nutrient changes. Some say it takes up to 3 days which then implies a bit of 'thinking' ahead. If it takes that long, alternating nutes and plain water would be really counter-productive. The question is about the built up in the soil. There's lots of rumors around this as well.

Answer: We prefer you give water with Biobizz every time you water the plants. If you switch between just clear water one time and water with nutrients the second time, you’ll have every time different Ec/pH levels. Every time the plants need to adjust.

Indeed, the organic material in Biobizz products needs time to decompose inside the soil. About 30% is available immediately, the rest becomes available in 1-3 days maximum.

What you can do is this: you start with 50% of the recommended dosages and use Biobizz every time you water the plants. You stay at this percentage or slowly increase if the plants demand it. Organic gardening is all about the visual connection with your plants.

Question: Should we consider the chart as the absolute maximum of nutes to use or is it really just an avarage?

Answer: The schedule is the general guideline. With these dosages we think it is almost impossible to not get a good result. But as we stated above: try to see the guideline as an indication for maximum dosages and when to start/ stop using products. No more no less


Question: Most people, including myself do think that this is the right way to mix the nutes:
Leave the bucket with tap water for 24 hours to get the chlorine etc. evaporated.
Add all desired nutes and just feed it to the plants (in case of BioBizz soil of course)

Answer: PERFECT! ;-)


Question: After adding the nutes to the water, what to do?

Quote " BioBizz says if your ph is between 7.0 and 7.3 it's just perfect. Don't change anything! Feed it to the plants and the soil will buffer the rest. "
Ok. I believe that it works just fine like that as I was never measuring ph.
STILL the question is: what would happen if you were using organic ph-down like canna ph down or earthjuice to drop this 7.3 nutrient solution to 6.3 from the start, before feeding? Would this be counter-productive for getting the right ph or actually help the soil getting it right faster? It's hard to tell because these ph meters in soil can't always be really trusted and opinions vastly differ.

Answer: Again, a very good question. First of all: always measure the pH, measuring = knowledge. Now here is how Biobizz works:

Our soil has a pH of 6,1-6,2. This is the perfect pH for using our liquid products. When you water the plants, the Biobizz products start to decompose, with the help of the micro-life in the soil, the organic material breaks down and the pH always stay naturally at 6,1-6,2. So if the water you give has a pH of for instance 7,0-7,3, the micro-life will ensure the pH in the soil will drop to the desired 6,1-6,2. This is why you never had problems, because you let nature do it’s work.

Now, the micro-life can lower the pH to 6,1-6,2, but if you feed water with a pH lower then 6,1-6,2 you can have a problem. The micro-life can lower the pH, but not increase it. So basically: as long as your water, mixed with Biobizz is above 6,2-6,3 ( give it a bit of margin ) you are just fine. Of course, when you have tab water with a pH of 9,0 ( which happens ), you will have an issue anyway. Try to avoid the use of pH correction products. Try to rely on the micro-life to do the work.Non-organic pH products will damage the micro-life we rely on so much.


Well you now have the most up to date info from Biobizz directly. Hope you can put this info to good use! A pleasure to communicate these topics with you. We hope this message contains enough info to help fine –tune your own personal schedule.

Thanks for helping us start the fucking Blue Monday in a nice way. And no worries, we can talk about Biobizz all day. We have a feeling this will not be the last time we speakJ

Best regards, Biobizz Mister Bloom. https://www.facebook.com/biobizz.mrbloom


BIG THANKS TO BIOBIZZ!!!!! I’m out of questions now…

 

[ganjygav]

Biobizz Nutrients: Answers From Biobizz
Discussion in 'Nutrients and Fertilizers' started by Ooopsi, Feb 1, 2016.
Tags: biobizz nutrients
Feb 1, 2016 #1
Ooopsi
Ooopsi
Well-Known Farmer
255
690
93
Hello fellow farmers.

I thought I'd share an email I got from BioBizz concerning different questions that seem to be popping up again and again so here we go.

Question: Everyone knows that charts are just an avarage and every plant is different. But let's say the values given are indeed an avarage of nutes to use and let's say we'd have a plant that has an avarage tolerance to nutrients. Would it be a good idea to really use all the products all together at full dose during an entire grow? Isn't using all products all together making the solution a bit too hot for the plants? Or would this actually be very beneficial? Noeone on forums can tell because nobody has yet used them all, not that I know.

Answer: So, a super interesting topic! Good you askJ First of all : the Grow schedule is not the bible. It is a general guideline that gives the maximum dosages and when to start using which product, or when to stop. If you would use all products at the same time you do not need to worry that much, since you are only using maximum to NPK products: Bio-grow or Fish-Mix and Bio-Bloom. All other products are stimulators that compliment the nutrients, improve assimilation, metabolism, chlorophyll production etc etc etc.
We try to give a divers menu to the plants. If you want to live healthy, you do not eat a hamburger with a hamburger and a hamburger for desert. You’d eat a hamburger, with a salad, some orange juice, a yogurt or cheese for desert and maybe a small digestive afterwards. This is the function of the stimulators: Root-juice, Bio-Heaven, Top-max, Alg-a-Mic and Acti-vera.

Try to see it like this: You use as a basis Bio-grow or Fish-Mix and Bio-Bloom. The stimulators are your tools to guide your plants into the direction you want to go, or enrich them. You make the menu for your plants, depending on the type of plants, their age, the moment in the cycle and of course the type of genetics. Here some key caracters of the stimulators:

Root-juice: besides a root stimulator, it protects the roots again the most common root diseases and protects against over feeding
Alg-a-Mic: repairs damage from overfeeding, boost calcium and magnesium assimilation, boost production of chlorophyll
Top-max: improves density of the flowers and stimulates natural sugar production ( taste improvement )
Bio-heaven: accelerates flowering, boosts mineral assimilation,
Acti-Vera: improves metabolism, full of essential enzymes and amazing for seeds that have just hatched. Aloë vera rules!

Some people simply use all products at the same time. But as soon as you know your favorite genetics inside-out, you use the stimulators as supplements at the moment you think the plants need it.


Question: Presuming we would be sticking to the official chart, should we be feeding nutrients every time we water the plants or alternate water with nutes? People actually argue about how long it takes for the nutrients to become active in the soil and how long it takes for the plant to react to nutrient changes. Some say it takes up to 3 days which then implies a bit of 'thinking' ahead. If it takes that long, alternating nutes and plain water would be really counter-productive. The question is about the built up in the soil. There's lots of rumors around this as well.

Answer: We prefer you give water with Biobizz every time you water the plants. If you switch between just clear water one time and water with nutrients the second time, you’ll have every time different Ec/pH levels. Every time the plants need to adjust.

Indeed, the organic material in Biobizz products needs time to decompose inside the soil. About 30% is available immediately, the rest becomes available in 1-3 days maximum.

What you can do is this: you start with 50% of the recommended dosages and use Biobizz every time you water the plants. You stay at this percentage or slowly increase if the plants demand it. Organic gardening is all about the visual connection with your plants.

Question: Should we consider the chart as the absolute maximum of nutes to use or is it really just an avarage?

Answer: The schedule is the general guideline. With these dosages we think it is almost impossible to not get a good result. But as we stated above: try to see the guideline as an indication for maximum dosages and when to start/ stop using products. No more no less


Question: Most people, including myself do think that this is the right way to mix the nutes:
Leave the bucket with tap water for 24 hours to get the chlorine etc. evaporated.
Add all desired nutes and just feed it to the plants (in case of BioBizz soil of course)

Answer: PERFECT! ;-)


Question: After adding the nutes to the water, what to do?

Quote " BioBizz says if your ph is between 7.0 and 7.3 it's just perfect. Don't change anything! Feed it to the plants and the soil will buffer the rest. "
Ok. I believe that it works just fine like that as I was never measuring ph.
STILL the question is: what would happen if you were using organic ph-down like canna ph down or earthjuice to drop this 7.3 nutrient solution to 6.3 from the start, before feeding? Would this be counter-productive for getting the right ph or actually help the soil getting it right faster? It's hard to tell because these ph meters in soil can't always be really trusted and opinions vastly differ.

Answer: Again, a very good question. First of all: always measure the pH, measuring = knowledge. Now here is how Biobizz works:

Our soil has a pH of 6,1-6,2. This is the perfect pH for using our liquid products. When you water the plants, the Biobizz products start to decompose, with the help of the micro-life in the soil, the organic material breaks down and the pH always stay naturally at 6,1-6,2. So if the water you give has a pH of for instance 7,0-7,3, the micro-life will ensure the pH in the soil will drop to the desired 6,1-6,2. This is why you never had problems, because you let nature do it’s work.

Now, the micro-life can lower the pH to 6,1-6,2, but if you feed water with a pH lower then 6,1-6,2 you can have a problem. The micro-life can lower the pH, but not increase it. So basically: as long as your water, mixed with Biobizz is above 6,2-6,3 ( give it a bit of margin ) you are just fine. Of course, when you have tab water with a pH of 9,0 ( which happens ), you will have an issue anyway. Try to avoid the use of pH correction products. Try to rely on the micro-life to do the work.Non-organic pH products will damage the micro-life we rely on so much.


Well you now have the most up to date info from Biobizz directly. Hope you can put this info to good use! A pleasure to communicate these topics with you. We hope this message contains enough info to help fine –tune your own personal schedule.

Thanks for helping us start the fucking Blue Monday in a nice way. And no worries, we can talk about Biobizz all day. We have a feeling this will not be the last time we speakJ

Best regards, Biobizz Mister Bloom. https://www.facebook.com/biobizz.mrbloom


BIG THANKS TO BIOBIZZ!!!!! I’m out of questions now…

That has so much information that applies to any soil growing. I've recently been having problems... infact I've been having problems for a while.
Anyway recently I did a 50 litre flush with water to bring run off ph up as it sat at 4.9 -5.0 on all 4 plants.
After hours of flushing I couldn't bring the run off over 5.5.

It was annoying but the next day I was talking to a guy who has been in the business years. He said i was wasting my time because the soil is meant to have a low ph to buffer the feeds down over a range of ph levels so the plant would be able to use everything up.
The soil is meant for ph neutral tap water 7.0 that's why the soil buffers it down.
He said I shouldn't be using ph down and that's what's causing the problems.

I started chasing my own arse around forums a couple of years back trying to solve one problem and applying different advice from different people and only gaining even more problems lol.

The only grow I didn't have problems with this last 2 years was when I used biobizz.
That's because I fed every watering. I followed their guide religiously. I did have some necrosis on a couple of plants fan leaves but I think that was because I used ph down also.
I'm gonna use biobizz again next grow without ph down and I'm confident the plants will be great.

 

[Big-Narstie]

I beg to differ that using ph down with bio bizz with a starting ph of 7.3-7.4... I've used both citric and phosoric acid, corrected to 6.5-8 ph- plant depending and things r always lush start to finish.. It just suits my water.
(I'll try adjusting to 7 ph and see what a plant thinks about it)

When I tried no ph adjusting it gave me problems pretty quickly,, wish I could could get away with not using it but I'm forced to

Great info tho thanks for posting

 

[Kmetak]

yea man, its be ok.. dont use acids PH up and down with Biobizz pls!! only citric acid is helpful in soil!! Biobizz Bloom push PH down and Biobizz Grow not too much,then add citric acid(in powder mix with water 1:2),few drops.. its fantastic!

hi

 

[ganjygav]

I beg to differ that using ph down with bio bizz with a starting ph of 7.3-7.4... I've used both citric and phosoric acid, corrected to 6.5-8 ph- plant depending and things r always lush start to finish.. It just suits my water.
(I'll try adjusting to 7 ph and see what a plant thinks about it)

When I tried no ph adjusting it gave me problems pretty quickly,, wish I could could get away with not using it but I'm forced to

Great info tho thanks for posting

I've stopped using ph down and feed brings it down to 6.7 anyway. I swear one of my plants looks better already. I think it's too late for a couple of them and I let the damage get too far on the fan leaves. The ones that were only blotchy are the ones that seem to be picking up.
It's only the fan leaves though. The leaves growing from buds are still nice and green and the buds are growing so I'm not worried.

I only let my water sit out for 12 hrs or the ph goes too high. Our water is chloramine anyway not chlorine so I don't think even sitting out for 24hrs helps anyway lol.

 

[Big-Narstie]

Think our water has both chlorine and chloramine init, could be wrong tho mate.


Edit* our tap water contains chlorine only!!

 

[ganjygav]

Think our water has both chlorine and chloramine init

Well that's a fucker ain't it. I think they do that on purpose you know. Like a conspiracy against growers haha.
I mean why would they need to put both in otherwise. They both do same thing. I think I read somewhere that the only reason the use the chloramine is because it's cheaper than chlorine.
I only switched back to tap water a couple of weeks back and I've already got that white stuff around edge of soil at top of pot.
This is why I only drink bottled spring water.

 

[Big-Narstie]

My mate was having issues no matter what he did soul/coco/hydro really got to him as I can imagine! But told him about RO units he's now using one and using cannas calmag-agent to bring it up to .4ec then adding nutrients and his plants are healthy and he's really pleased.

Think that's the route I'll take in 2017 as our water quality changes week to week so be nice to start with pure o2 and give them exactly what they need. I flush with RO and like the clean smoke so can't hurt using right through..especially seeing it working a treat for matey and he's in same p-code to me.



Has bio bloom always lowered ph????

 

[ganjygav]

My mate was having issues no matter what he did soul/coco/hydro really got to him as I can imagine! But told him about RO units he's now using one and using cannas calmag-agent to bring it up to .4ec then adding nutrients and his plants are healthy and he's really pleased.

Think that's the route I'll take in 2017 as our water quality changes week to week so be nice to start with pure o2 and give them exactly what they need. I flush with RO and like the clean smoke so can't hurt using right through..especially seeing it working a treat for matey and he's in same p-code to me.



Has bio bloom always lowered ph????

I can't talk for it always lowering the ph as I've only used it once and never by itself. I was using all the supplements, my feeds looked like a tea by the time it was all in there. But yeah I remember it brought the ph down but I was adding ph down to get it at 6.5.
As I said best grow I had for 2 years plants looking healthy wise.
Just I want to try it again without the ph down like they suggest.
Fuck the worst that could happen is I get spotty leaves again and in that case nothing would be different.

 

[Big-Narstie]

Has biobizz nutes changed ingredients or % in last 10 years??

Like advanced nutes stuff I don't recognise half their stuff from the ingredients now lol

 

[ganjygav]

Has biobizz nutes changed ingredients or % in last 10 years??

Like advanced nutes stuff I don't recognise half their stuff from the ingredients now lol

Yeah plant magic changed there's twice now I think and they got brought by another company I heard. It's completely different. I started growing using plant magic and for the first year or so I thought I was a weed growing god. I didn't have one issue. Only 2 bottles bloom and veg it had it all.
Now it don't even contain magnesium or calcium in the Base nutes.
Even using the calmag they brought out I still can't get it right lol.
They should have left it alone and put the price up if profit was the reason for this. I would have paid twice the original price to keep my plants the way they used to be.

You would have to ask biobizz about formula changes.
It was only this year I realised plant magic had changed so much.

 

[GoatCheese]

I have used GHE's pH-down for years, and i have hard time believing it damages (oxidizes) soil's micro-life that much, cause i only put 0.1ml of PH-down to a 1 litre of tap water, and i mix it into the water very well and let it sit for 30 mins before i add my BioBizz nutrients in.

Now, i understand that nitric/phosphoric acid- pH down/up can damage micro-life and possibly change chemical composition if the solution is very strong, or PH up/down added into nutrient mixture AFTER you've put your nutes in, so that 100% strong Nitric/phosphoric PH down gets in direct contact with organic nutrients etc.


But i have thought about buildups of my GHE pH down cause it is a buffer for awhile in the soil, so every time i give my plants plain water every 3rd or or so watering, i don't use the pH Down. And sometimes i make the nute mixture without it too.
..sure one could argue about pH fluctuations, but the soil is a buffer, so it will even things out after a while. Also different nutrients are bestavailable in different levels of pH, so little fluctuation might be good even.



Now i'm not claiming organic pH buffer isn't better,i have never looked into those, i'm just saying so little amount of pH Down (0.1ml/L water) isn't going to kill all living things in that soil.


Here's a nice read
pH acidity: what it does to your plants
http://www.canna-uk.com/ph_acidity

Here's few lines of a study about the effects of urea and nitric acid to plant growth.
..can't copy and paste the text here with my pdf reader. There's a block of some sort on it.
http://horttech.ashspublications.org/content/12/1/131.full.pdf

 

[ganjygav]

Yeah it's phosphoric acid I use as ph down.
I also mix my my nutes first then ph down so maybe there's a problem there.
Also I've been thinking about my tap water will rise to 8 if I leave it sat. My nutes bring it down to between 6.7 and 7. That's fine while I'm using nutes but if I'm using a strong soil like allmix and for the first 4 weeks or so I'm using pot ups to feed the plants and only giving plain water. How's that gonna work with high 8 ph? Biobizz says the soil works between 7 and 7.3 to buffer.

So I'm gonna try an organic ph down in them first weeks

 

[Kmetak]

I have used GHE's pH-down for years, and i have hard time believing it damages (oxidizes) soil's micro-life that much, cause i only put 0.1ml of PH-down to a 1 litre of tap water, and i mix it into the water very well and let it sit for 30 mins before i add my BioBizz nutrients in.

Now, i understand that nitric/phosphoric acid- pH down/up can damage micro-life and possibly change chemical composition if the solution is very strong, or PH up/down added into nutrient mixture AFTER you've put your nutes in, so that 100% strong Nitric/phosphoric PH down gets in direct contact with organic nutrients etc.


But i have thought about buildups of my GHE pH down cause it is a buffer for awhile in the soil, so every time i give my plants plain water every 3rd or or so watering, i don't use the pH Down. And sometimes i make the nute mixture without it too.
..sure one could argue about pH fluctuations, but the soil is a buffer, so it will even things out after a while. Also different nutrients are bestavailable in different levels of pH, so little fluctuation might be good even.



Now i'm not claiming organic pH buffer isn't better,i have never looked into those, i'm just saying so little amount of pH Down (0.1ml/L water) isn't going to kill all living things in that soil.


Here's a nice read
pH acidity: what it does to your plants
http://www.canna-uk.com/ph_acidity

Here's few lines of a study about the effects of urea and nitric acid to plant growth.
..can't copy and paste the text here with my pdf reader. There's a block of some sort on it.
http://horttech.ashspublications.org/content/12/1/131.full.pdf

Yes man, you have right! Small concentration,one twoo drops in liter water inst bad. But periodic watering without flushing cause problems like on first picture in this thread.. My Mother plants should have same problem with water with acid nitric. Long time in grow was all ok but after cca 6-8weeks leafs got brown dot and yellow color..
Next solution is RO water mixing with tap water for better PH level.. Or use "bio" citric acid, or lemonjuice for Ph corect in grow..

On other forums most people says i dont use any Ph addict with Biobiiz...! Google this...

In my starts i using only basic soil for garden.tap water filtred over Brita Can and Biobizz fish and bloom and i smoked good results..

 

[Kmetak]

This is last mother plant who survived. She was flushed from nitric acid residues..then iput she in to bigger pot..with bizz allmix and water+ bio root plus.. Now she grow well...

 

[Villasukka]

Got to make do with what i got atm, so.. i should have been using GROW.. i did not

adding 0.5ml micro to mix stopped the problem from progressing. Still got few weeks to go.

Tapwater is PH 8.0-8.5 so highly alkaline: i use few drops of ph down.