Breeding question

[coldcanna]

Say you buy a 10 pack of straight seeds, it's a line that's been worked so should have some level of consistency, lets say 5 phenos just for shits. You pick 1 male and 1 female and breed them, not necessarily picking for a phenotype just random. Will the offspring of this cross produce seeds inclusive of all 5 parent phenos being that it's just one generation? Or is it likely that you would cull some of the genetic variation within 1 breeding cycle?

 

[igrowone]

unfortunately, a pack of straight seeds isn't so straight
what are the seeds? probably a pack of F1's
which is going to give a very different result from an IBL line
but it is posiible to do a lot of breeding from a small source, BOG seems to have done just that
at least according to posts i've seen

 

[coldcanna]

It's a BX of gg4 done by a pro that sells online. I made the mistake of popping beans before a long vacation, a buddy was taking care of everything and when I got back there were only 4 out of 10 left alive. And when I said straight I meant not feminized... so it's probable that I only have 1 or 2 females and can't phenotype hunt. So if I bred them would I have access to all the phenos I would have from the original batch?

 

[igrowone]

good specific question, i'm sure a better breeder may give a better answer
it does sound like your phenotypes will be more restricted than say breeding with F1's
and the gg#4 lineage will likely have quite an effect on the outcome
i'm not up on the gg#4 genetic line
my limited experience came from selfing an F1, that resulted in a large number of phenotypes
every pheno was different

 

[jesbuds]

Genotype (B and b)/Phenotype (color coding):

Breed BB to Bb and you've 'lost' bb (but you can still get it back in future generations).

 

[Scrappy-doo]

I'm no breeder, but if you want genetic diversity you want to do an open pollenation. 1 male and 1 female will seriously limit the potential. I'd use all 4 plants and search through the f2's.

 

[coldcanna]

I'm no breeder, but if you want genetic diversity you want to do an open pollenation. 1 male and 1 female will seriously limit the potential. I'd use all 4 plants and search through the f2's.

Most likely will be what happens, just blows now I have to wait through 2 cycles to get some seedless buds! Oh well... and scrappy I still shed an occasional tear after our missed connection a couple months back. Thanks for chiming in here.

My inclination here is that a couple generations of breeding what I was able to salvage I will eventually see most expressions from original parents. You can't help but wonder if that keeper of a lifetime phenotype was in the dead ones and I'll never see it again, the suspense kills !

 

[Scrappy-doo]

I don't even remember a missed connection lol. I've had a lot of conversations though, I'll have to check my pm's. You can always hmu though if ya wanna chat.

 

[Tonygreen]

What BX is it from?

Depends on how it was made bro. Might be in there, might not...

 

[Tonygreen]

What BX is it from?

Depends on how it was made bro. Might be in there, might not...

 

[hailand3r]

i have a question of breeding, thinking in cross a standart Ace Pakistani C Kush x standart Ace Golden tiger

my question is: what is the difference to use a Male PCK x Female GT or a Female PCK x male GT....

will be the same parental spectrum for the two combination? or, if I pollinate a female GT x Male PCK will got more the parental spectrum of GT cause she is the mother? or in that case will got more the parental spectrum of PCK becouse he is the father?

or dont have any diference between use a male or a female the two combinations will have the same parental spectrum independent of who is the male or the female?


cause i want to get a plant with shorter flowering time, but high THC, Big production, and High resistence to mold and rain and high vigor.... is it possible?

 

[Koondense]

Better ask Dubi if these are Ace strains, maybe he knows a detailed answer if he made that cross before.
I think it all depends on individual selected parents, their dominant/recessive traits and the relation in which they combine with the other parent's traits.
There's a pretty detailed description of crossing Zamal and Hashplant in the Zamal Hash F1 cross, should be somewhere in the "new 2014 seeds" thread of the Ace subforum.