Bone Meal

[jaypee89]

I have some 4-12-0 bone meal that i WANT to use for my flowering stage but I have a problem. Where am I going to get the potassium?

Or should I just use some Schultz African Violet 8-14-9 for flowering?

 

[glock23]

Try Maxicrop (kelp) for your K in flowering. Organic and it makes a BIG difference. Your plants will shoot right up. Most people don't use blood and bonemeal indoors. They say it's just too stinky.

 

[kush07]

Molasses has some potassium in it as well as other beneficial hormones. Espoma makes a Potash (0-0-60) ammendment that might work well in a tea mix. PSG, Indonesian Bat Guano, and Jamaican Bat Guano are also good to put in tea mixes.

Happy Toking

 

[TheBudWhisperer]

Maxicrop powder is my favorite fertilizer. It dissolves almost instantly even in cold water, stimulates the growth of benificial microbes, has a nearly complete array of trace elements, is an excellent source of K as stated by glock23, and a large container of it can last a small grow years, literally. I use it every other watering on all my plants. Some local garden centers and even a few large department stores carry it.

 

[JackTheGrower]

I'm getting ready to spread a layer in my soil box.

I will add the bone meal to a mixture of organic soil mix.

To that I will add some alfalfa meal, some crawfords micronized compost, sea bird guano high in N ( still in veg ) and something I am trying out this year shrimp meal.

I do have a large carbon filtration system at work so the odors are taken care of.

Mixing with a soil mix helps provide bulk that spreads easy,

The rule I have used with things like bone is put it there early so it can get processed..

I still have some time to go before flowering.

 

[BurnOne]

Try Maxicrop (kelp) for your K in flowering. Organic and it makes a BIG difference. Your plants will shoot right up. Most people don't use blood and bonemeal indoors. They say it's just too stinky.

I agree with the Maxicrop. But, I have never had "stinky" blood and bone indoors. I use Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered concentrate. You can also use Maxicrop liquid or Neptune's Harvest 0-0-1 seaweed. Or, use kelp meal in your soil mix (which is what I do). Earth Juice Meta-K is also another good choice.

If you want to use organic nutes like blood, bone and kelp...
Dry Ferts:
1 tablespoon blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.
Mix all the dry ferts into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it with Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the bone meal and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.


And, here are two very good organic soiless mixes to start things in...

LC’s Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Check the link in my sig line below for cheap earthworm castings. Free shipping to the eastern USA.

Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as “parts” in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.

Burn1

 

[jaypee89]

Hey guys! thanks for all the info and everything however, where I live, there is now Lowes or Home Depot or Walmart or any of those stateside shopping places haha.

Over here, all we got is Ace Hardware and only organic Ferts they carry are blood and bone meal heh. Everything else is Schultz or MG Chem ferts

No Kelp Meal, Maxicrop, LK, FoxFarm, Dolomite Lime, Guanos.

Its sad, really. I Think I'll just stick to Schultz's african violet 8-14-9

 

[JackTheGrower]

Groworganic.com mail order Jaypee..

Just don't get it too stinky!

 

[kush07]

Hey guys! thanks for all the info and everything however, where I live, there is now Lowes or Home Depot or Walmart or any of those stateside shopping places haha.

Over here, all we got is Ace Hardware and only organic Ferts they carry are blood and bone meal heh. Everything else is Schultz or MG Chem ferts

No Kelp Meal, Maxicrop, LK, FoxFarm, Dolomite Lime, Guanos.

Its sad, really. I Think I'll just stick to Schultz's african violet 8-14-9

FoxFarm isn't entirely organic. Check for some Mr. Naturals stuff at Ace. The provida a CLM mix and some organic worm castings so look for them at Ace next time you run by there.

Happy Toking

 

[barnyard]

kelp meal

 

[jaypee89]

So I got this bag of 4-12-0 bone meal and I want to use it in flowering. Gonna go look around for something that has Potassium.

Planning on making a tea solution.....How much of the bone meal should I throw into the stocking per gallon of water? On the bag it only gives instructions for using it in a soil mix. Hows about as a tea?

 

[Guest]

jaypee,

You shouldn't.....Bonemeal doesn't make a very "water soluble" fertilizer....Read the bag and you'll see how much of it is water soluble...Somewhere around 2-3%....You need to put bonemeal in an organic soil mix and let the bacteria break it down and make it available....LC

 

[BurnOne]

LC's back.

 

[Don Chocolate]

I just noticed that ^ myself. Welcome back LC!

 

[JackTheGrower]

jaypee,

You shouldn't.....Bonemeal doesn't make a very "water soluble" fertilizer....Read the bag and you'll see how much of it is water soluble...Somewhere around 2-3%....You need to put bonemeal in an organic soil mix and let the bacteria break it down and make it available....LC

I agree and you can use a little molasses to aid this. A watering with a kelp molasses mix won't hurt.

 

[Guest]

Hello Everyone,

Hope you've been "misbehavin" since I been gone....Got my computer straightened out and an internet provider I can use....I'm back at home again with my mother...She's had two strokes since may and she has to have someone to stay with her all time...But she's doing fine.....Glad to be back

JackTheGrower,

Better watch that shrimpmeal....I got two hundred pounds of that sh*t in my barn...That's some "potent" long term sh*t...Watch and don't mess the flower cycle up with that stuff....I quit using it.....LC

 

[CaptJamesTKirk]

So I got this bag of 4-12-0 bone meal and I want to use it in flowering. Planning on making a tea solution.....Hows about as a tea?

LOL

Did you ever try reading up a little? Water soluable? not really. Breaks down easy? NOT. Good choice? not really.

Maybe try a search or two,,,


naaaaaa, doubtful.


You may not have a good store locally, but you do get mail regurarly right?

They got this new thing,, you buy something and they ship it to your door.

eBay has people selling FoxFarm, GH and many other brands of suitable products - and they work great.
Just a thought.

 

[Guest]

The Capt is right....For indoor grows, I prefer ferts that are "shorterm release"...Longterm release fertilizer's belong in the garden or in grows that are started in the same container that they will "finish" in....That's the reason that when useing bonemeal, you always use a faster release N source like bloodmeal to "be gone" when the flower cycle comes around....LC