Blue Streak upgrade

[mdanzig]

After growing some these out recently, I noticed that I am not happy with the way they are looking and tasting. So, I have begun a smaller scaled project to go back and find some older
Blue Streak genetics and I found a few beautiful keepers, that will pollinated soon by a much taller male. These could reach 2.5-3 feet tall. My plants flower under 24 hours of light and prefer said light regiment.

 

[BUDOGHI]

out doors a latitude 20 these things are midgets not really worth my time even if it is only seventy five days. crossed with tall diesel ryder will see what happens.

 

[dude06version]

so i just wasted money then? what exactly didnt you like about the taste.. is it weak?

 

[BUDOGHI]

Nothing wrong with taste just too small they need a long light cycle

 

[krazycure]

Hmmm that seems a little overly negative... don't be fooled I was lucky enough to taste some of the early bluestreak and it was exceptional... but a breeder is their own harshest critic usually. Also you can't nail down a stable taste in early versions... they'll run the gambit. And it is NOT weak no matter how it tastes.

 

[dude06version]

^^ok cool, thats refreshing..

 

[mdanzig]

Okay heres the deal. After I made Blue Streak, I was contacted by Joint_Doctor who wanted me to send him 1000 Blue Streak seeds for him to grow out all 1000 and make 50,000 seeds. He made 30,000, and sent me like 3000. However theres a long story behind this. At first they were supposed to be feminized but was then told by Joint_Doctor that his grower fucked up the entire grow. JD then supposedly started a whole new grow on his own, to which he was supposed to do in the first place. Now I'm not sure how he did this considering the pervious grow was supposed to have been a total loss, so where are the seeds from?. So JD now says to let him do this grow the right way, so he finally completes this project more than one year later. It was only supposed to take 3 months. The selection was done, he had the seeds, but sat on it, or claimed total losses by "his" grower. I would have never agreed to this had I known the seeds were then going to another breeder who I dont even know. Finally this is how I got the seeds. Im not sure now how well he selected the best genetics. Fortunetly the seeds from Gypsy are from me and not JD, but anything from any other place other than IC.Mag, or Sacred Seed, I'm not responsible for. I have considered going exclusively with Gypsy because of this kind of shit. I just cant keep track of my own genetics anymore. There is literally thousands of seedbanks selling fraudulent seeds that are not mine. The make way more money than I'll ever make.

so i just wasted money then? what exactly didnt you like about the taste.. is it weak?

 

[bobmerlay]

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[mdanzig]

Any seedbank that Joint_Doctor has sold my seeds to has until JULY 1st to get them off of their website. If they are sold after July 1st, then basic morals are being broken.

 

[THC123]

There is literally thousands of seedbanks selling fraudulent seeds that are not mine. The make way more money than I'll ever make.

now that is some fucked up shit , too bad you can't trademark it since the branch you are in isnt exactly legal.

 

[mdanzig]

hey mdanzig.....

Is this an old generation bluestreak you have found a freak "huge" specimen,

or have you completely started again, and instead of backcrossing to lr, have come round to the idea, that unlike about a year ago you dismissed as "bullshit"

Which was that to create a fully automatic cannabis plant, you cross "an automatic" (ie lowrider/auto ak47 etc) with a "standard" (veg stage followed with 12/12) plant and grow out the seeds to f3-f4 stage, when, if you have selected the naturally occuring auto traits in the offspring from 1-3% from the f1's to 100% in the f3-f5 a new autoflowering cannabis plant "strain" is created. Which you previously said was "impossible"
Yet other "amateur" automatic breeders on planetganja CONFIRMED, after lowlife publically diverged how to create an auto cannabis strain

you were never seen on planetganja again, or replied to the evidence, after this was mentioned, as you yourselfe admitted ALL YOUR CROSSES ARE BACKCROSSED WITH ORIGINAL LR

ie, giving all your genetics much closer resemblance to original lr than the "oroginal cross" which was why your plants are/were smaller and less potent than the lowlife genetics


It seems after a few years of making 3 or 4 crosses, now, 18 months after this knowledge, you appear to have a much MUC MUCH bigger plant than any of yourprevious crosses.


Bearing in mind you never replied or discussed on planetganjas original LR crossing thread after the above mentioned info came to light, can it be assumed you now practice the inbreeding of "12/12 strain x lr" to attain this, and your forthcoming crosses, that you previously dismissed, as your new breedine regime? because you now have found out that yes, lowlifes breeding technique has surpassed quality in your original seedstock due to his higher % of "original" genetics inbreeding brings rather than backcrossing to original LR as many times as possible until autoflowering is 100% in the next generation of seeds, which you previously, mistakenly claimed was the only way to make auto strains, which also makes sense why your fully auto strains were much smaller and less potent than lowlifes strains, due to this breeding difference

im sure the cannabis community would like to hear your response

Nope, your totally wrong. First off the reason I left PlantGanja was because of the differences I had with Lowlife, one being he/she claims that they crossed a non-auto to an auto, and back to a non-auto and locked in 100% auto-flowering. I have a huge problem with that statement, there is absolutely no way. I dont want to get into that. We have sort of talked a little and we dont seem to harbor any more hard feelings.


Listening to you, you sound as if you know more about breeding than me, so whats your point? Dude, I didnt mistakenly make claims to anything. I post what I know.

From my experiences, and remember Ive been doing this for 7 years now, probably way more than anyone else except Joint_Doctor. It takes another cross to an auto to fully lock in auto-flowering (that means every plant grown will fully flower under 24 hours of constant light). Your also wrong about me changing any of my breeding practices to copy Lowlife. If you read my SourBubbleryder thread you will notice that it is Diesalryder X SourBubble Bx4 (Purple male) X Master Low. Lets see, thats two autos right? So where is the change my friend. I wil tell you that a one time cross will not give you 100% auto-flowering. By the way my plants flower under 24 hours of constant light. I will challenge anyone to tell me any different. I just didnt jump into autos yesterday.

Also there is no competition. I do my thing and others do theirs, thats all, nothing more, and nothing less.

 

[BUDOGHI]

Is blue streak and blue ryder the same thing?

 

[mdanzig]

Yes, they are the same. I had agreed to let JD change the name in Europe to sell his share of seeds there. I guess his Disalryder is doing very very well in the UK, and good for him.

 

[IceColdCrickets]

what is the age of the plants in the first pic?

 

[mdanzig]

Close to three weeks old.

 

[S_a_H]

It seems after a few years of making 3 or 4 crosses, now, 18 months after this knowledge, you appear to have a much MUC MUCH bigger plant than any of yourprevious crosses.

If you bother to go back and find my grow threads on Blue Streak you'll see many plants and grows of this size of BS and bigger before that 18 months you talk about.

S_a_H

 

[bromhexine]

from my understanding if you cross an auto to a non auto you'll get close to zero autos but if you cross those seeds together the result will be 25 percent auto is this correct? i assumed only crossing it once to the auto this way will lock in more desired traits and keep the ruderalis to a minimal

 

[mdanzig]

If you bother to go back and find my grow threads on Blue Streak you'll see many plants and grows of this size of BS and bigger before that 18 months you talk about.

S_a_H

Hey S_a_H, I dont believe that person has been following my grows. I have many, many grows of very big auto's. I wish I knew were these people come up with this crap. He has no clue what-so-ever.

 

[mdanzig]

Maybe it would have helped had he spent the time to even look at my galleries

 

[beek]

Damn, I don't need big. I need small for my backyard

That male on the right is already too big