Blue Apollo...droopy/curly...

[greenehype]

ok the 1st pic is the worst one. The second pic is the second worst(the plant to the left is joey weeds WR grown from seed). Third pic shows bottom row of the 3healthy Blue Apollo(from seed, joey weed) the row above that is 3 healthy Chronic about 6 weeks from seed.

Ok this droop/undercurl of the leaves on the BA has been going on for about a week now. They were fine after transplant(from dixie cup to 1gallon), but over the last week theyve curled and curled...I just watered and they havent changed. The research ive done suggest OVER watering...but ive only watered twice now since seedling(once after transplanting and once one hour before pic taken)...and the other 3 strains in the octagon are doing just fine.






How long has this problem been going on?
about a week
What STRAIN are you growing?
blue apollo
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)
seed
What is the age of your plants?
6 weeks
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?
since seed
How Tall are the plants?
7-10"
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
vertical racks, bare 1000w hortilux hps.
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)
they are in 1gallon pots now...plan to transfer to 3 gallon after problem fixed.
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
Sunshine #4
What Nutrient's are you using?
GH, following label dosage
How often are you feeding?
As needed, after transplant on ly one feeding...didnt seem to change condition one way or the other.
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
fun off was about 5...maybe a little less. (using one of those liquid ph drop kits for the moment)...the tap water going in was about 7 and nutrient solution was about 6.5


When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
about 1 hour before pic taken
What size bulb are you using?
1000 watt hortilux hps
What is the distance to the canopy?
about 30" from bare bulb, suspended in middle of octagon
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
50%
What is the canopy temperature?
78-82
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
day 82 night 75-78
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
room is 21x13x9, using valueline 750cfm exhaust fan and a/c for intake
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
both ac and exhaust running 24hr
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
there is a fan blowing directly at plants
Is your water HARD or SOFT? no clue
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled?
tap water
Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
big city tap water
Are plant's infected with pest's?
had a slight case of spider mites, used floramite...droop/curl problem was present before and after.


Thanks in advance for any info.

 

[Brother_Monk]

The only real problem I feel you have is your very low runoff Ph. This suggests that you have a salt buildup. But I see you have only fed them once since transplant? Dosen't make sense.

I will say however, I also ran JW's Blue Apollo a few years ago, and had almost the same problem. I thought I was overfeeding them because they developed the claw. Only mine showed no other signs of overfert. No scorched tips, no severe greening etc. Perhaps it's the strain.

But please, re-check your runoff Ph. If it is still at 5, you need to address that.

 

[Weedman Herb]

I think the leaves are just facing the best light ... That isn't a normal claw or droop ...

 

[greenehype]

Brother Monk, thanks for the reply...how did you find the smoke?...reports are few and far between.

 

[MrMcBean]

overwatered? .. just a guess.. water less and up the nutes in this case..

At the size of 8-10 inches the roots probably havent gotten around much in the soil if you know what i mean. That makes for a lot of moisture to build up. Even if the top of the soil seems dry, there is plenty water below and the roots need to grow to find it..

 

[VirginHarvester]

I'm following this thread. I have a pack of Blue Apollo and am hoping it shows hybrid vigor, not some kind of endemic problem.

 

[Brother_Monk]

The smoke was very heady. Very much a good combination of the BB and Genius side of the Apollo 11. I think that is where the droopyness comes from. The Genius is a very floppy, weak stemmed plant that needs support. I don't have any pics because they were in my Overgrow gallery when it got shut down. The pheno I kept was a short BB pheno. It grew very much like a stout indica. Made my head feel like a balloon.

 

[greenehype]

progress report

progress report

For Virgin Harvestor, others who might be interested: Here is a pick of the best BA female. Shes about 2 weeks into 12/12, in which time shes stretched from about 15" to 32". Smell so far is faint but has a sweet peppery type aroma. She is still a bit droopy in parts but like an above poster said, it may just come from the genius side...

I'll post other photos of other phenos, info etc if people are interested..

 

[farmerred]

How did she finish up greenehype? If I had something blue and something apollo, would they be worth combining in your experience?