Blah's First Ppk

[Mr Blah]

I think I am going to just do a straight shot of 2" PVC out of my control bucket vs perimeter. From that straight shot just cap it and put my 4 rubber hoses into.

First I have to take care of downstairs. Got to make my light runs longer from 10' adding 15' to meet my new 10ballast/20light flip box.

I have asked this in the other threads, maybe somebody has done it here; From hanging bulbs, moguls, 10'-16g wire run,...can't I just connect green/black/white with the same ones from the extension with wire nuts and rap with electrical tape? Or do I need to put it into it's own junction box?

 

[Ganoderma]

I think I am going to just do a straight shot of 2" PVC out of my control bucket vs perimeter. From that straight shot just cap it and put my 4 rubber hoses into.

First I have to take care of downstairs. Got to make my light runs longer from 10' adding 15' to meet my new 10ballast/20light flip box.

I have asked this in the other threads, maybe somebody has done it here; From hanging bulbs, moguls, 10'-16g wire run,...can't I just connect green/black/white with the same ones from the extension with wire nuts and rap with electrical tape? Or do I need to put it into it's own junction box?

They sell extension cords with the same connectors to connect your ballast and hood. Then this way you are not cutting wires and having to splice them together (w/ wire nuts). If you are cutting wires and connecting them with wire nuts, you should have them connected inside of a junction box. It's just safer to do it this way.

 

[Mr Blah]

They sell extension cords with the same connectors to connect your ballast and hood. Then this way you are not cutting wires and having to splice them together (w/ wire nuts). If you are cutting wires and connecting them with wire nuts, you should have them connected inside of a junction box. It's just safer to do it this way.

Sorry I should of explained, I previously cut the ends off so I could attach it to a DIY flip box relays. The flip box is relocated but the rooms are not hence the extension.

 

[delta9nxs]

You can see what looks to be some milky white shit floating around in the container. I vacuumed it out.
Also you can see the 12" hole at the center top sucking out and exchanging the air a few times a min. The fan is a 12" 1056cfm on 24/7. THe tent is 275cubic ft. The room where the tents are is a constant 65F. Not to worried about lights out humidity due to the massive air exchange from the surrounding room.
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the white stuff in your float container is surface precipitation. are you mixing in the jack's portion first?

are you using pre-mixed stock solutions?

what is the starting ppm of your water?

are you adjusting ph? if so, how?

it's normal to se a little precip in your recirculating system but not normal to see it in the float container where the surface tension is being broken by the drip.

 

[Mr Blah]

the white stuff in your float container is surface precipitation. are you mixing in the jack's portion first?

are you using pre-mixed stock solutions?

what is the starting ppm of your water?

are you adjusting ph? if so, how?

it's normal to se a little precip in your recirculating system but not normal to see it in the float container where the surface tension is being broken by the drip.

When I mix up a 42-3gal batch I start with my RO water which is at 0.0ppm's and 8.2ph.
For veg I take out about a gal in two 5 gal buckets and mix 5Tbsps of jacks in one and 5Tbsps nitrate in the other.
I than return the Jacks mix gal back to the 42-3 gal brute and incorporate with the RO water than repeat with the 1 gal of reserved nitrate solution. That gives me 830ppms and 5.8ph measured the next day.

For flower I do the same 0.0ppm RO water, same reserved water for solution mix but mix 6Tbsps of each. To give me a 5.6ph and 970ppms.

No where am I adjusting ph.

 

[McKush]

over the past 2months, been learning the same thing on less feed more often. seems to be a positive direction to feed with a quart or so every 1.5-2 hrs. some plants have taken quite well. i had certain plants that hated these systems, till the change in watering sched..

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Hiya Gman! Just saw ur post. Less more often seems to have the best success rate so far from what i can see.

BTW your suggestion to get those root riots up higher and not saturating them has been a *big* help in the evolution of my system! Thanks again brother. Doing a stacked netpot approach by my patent pending McNetpots has seriously improved my ability to grow bigger plants! Lol . I am going to grow some wld this fall and winter and see if i get the same results.

 

[McKush]

Thanks D9, There was a 2"gap prior to me unplugging the float valve and letting it flow in. I should of taken the picture before I did that. But just like the vegging issue, It some how solved it's self. It is now leveling out by itself.
Although my next build I am putting the hole on the side of the cereal box vs the bottom.
How much of an air gap should I have using the 1.5" tailpipe?

Hi B sorry f i missed it or misunderstand but the hole in the cereal box needs to be on a side wall and above the bottom of the carton. If you dont have this you should change it. Put a screw in the old hole and drill a new one just for me....

 

[Mr Blah]

What is the best way to measure for air gap without making a mess of things?
I moved the float valve on the control bucket and I think the air gap might be to small. What are some signs the plant will show if it is?

 

[delta9nxs]

What is the best way to measure for air gap without making a mess of things?
I moved the float valve on the control bucket and I think the air gap might be to small. What are some signs the plant will show if it is?

i'm not sure i understand correctly but here goes.

just measure down from the rim of your bucket 4" and set the float valve accordingly. you may have to try a few different float settings to get it right where you want it.

or if the float valve is not located in a bucket you know that a 3.5 bucket is 11"deep. less 4" for air gap is 7" so set your float in your reservoir to keep the solution about 7" deep. if your floor is level the solution level in each plant res should be the same as the control res.

again you might have to play with it some to get it just right.

the first symptom of the roots staying too wet too long is yellowing on the lower fan leafs first.

a 4" air gap is just a good starting point but has been the setting i use the most.

 

[Mr Blah]

i'm not sure i understand correctly but here goes.

just measure down from the rim of your bucket 4" and set the float valve accordingly. you may have to try a few different float settings to get it right where you want it.

or if the float valve is not located in a bucket you know that a 3.5 bucket is 11"deep. less 4" for air gap is 7" so set your float in your reservoir to keep the solution about 7" deep. if your floor is level the solution level in each plant res should be the same as the control res.

again you might have to play with it some to get it just right.

the first symptom of the roots staying too wet too long is yellowing on the lower fan leafs first.

a 4" air gap is just a good starting point but has been the setting i use the most.

Awesome D9. I will adjust it cause the leaves are prematurely yellowing.

 

[McKush]

What is the best way to measure for air gap without making a mess of things?
I moved the float valve on the control bucket and I think the air gap might be to small. What are some signs the plant will show if it is?

Hiya B - check my albums and posts about the water level tool i use to do gap checking. Theres yer ticket!

 

[Mr Blah]

Holy shit Mckush...25pages in one album. Have no clue which one I am looking for.

On a side note, some impressive plants.

On some, how did you get the room to turn upside down?

 

[McKush]

Holy shit Mckush...25pages in one album. Have no clue which one I am looking for.

On a side note, some impressive plants.

On some, how did you get the room to turn upside down?

Oh those pics? I took those while not stoned. Lol.

Most of the pics are in my mcppk thread with comments chap. You may be able to correlate pic date of post to when discussed in my thread...

Otherwise scroll thru my thread looking for the water level posts. Its just a clear ttube connected to the return line of the res and the water level tubing will measure true... always even snaked around stuff.

Pharoahs built pyramids with this tech. Think it was goodyear hose tho. Lol

 

[McKush]

Here you go chap. More pics near these two

If not for the earths curvature i could make two objects the same height 1,000 miles apart with the right hose.... goodyear right? Lol. Shitting ya.

Any clear tube tied into the res somehow will work

 

[Mr Blah]

Oh my god I should of known better....your right. I've done this outside with auto watering and even our rez feeding our control buckets work on this same philosophy.
Ya, clear hose helps.

You got in good with "GoodYear" or what?
Little branding going on.

Thanks for digging up those pictures.

 

[McKush]

see those clamps and bulkheads in that pic......? i'm the old fart who doesn't use goodyear hose and i'm cracking up right now. lol


lol not because i think its bad or anything at all. u use that goodyear hose for bulkhead-less connections which is a pretty good idea come to think of it... lol


Av & D9 just shake their heads... yep, i'm doomed, dain brammage, and all lol

 

[McKush]

to be clear tho, none of my bulkhead & disconnect crap means not a thing to the plant or the ppk system and *absolutely* not needed for ppk but absolutely the result of someone who has too much time on his hands! lol

i've done alot of fishkeeping is all and you don't stick tubes in buckets and hope they keep your precious finned one alive... lol i just can't do goodyear yet even tho its a superior construction method (honestly) i'm sorta programmed not to do it but it has nothing to do with the method itself, just me

 

[Mr Blah]

I here McKush.
I too did things like yourself but the reason I tried the hose in the hole of the bucket thing is to stop any leaks from the upstairs grow to the downstairs grow. So far I am impressed. Not one leak. Not a drop. I still like the connections that I grew up with but honestly it all adds up quickly.

Spend more time at the depot than building.

Speaking of building I have the last two rooms almost done and will get some pictures up.

Also changed the float valve and waiting for the water level to drop so I can have a larger air gap. Got some yellowing on one of the plants.

 

[Mr Blah]

I have been thinking about this new room for a while now and decided what needed to be there and what was just overkill.

So I did away with the 2" pipe all the way around the inside perimeter of the tent and just did a 2" about 5' long and used the 1/2" black hose to connect the buckets.


Also wanted to show some of the progress in the first flower tent. Hard to get one screen in one shot.
Also wanted to show the yellowing of the leaves on another in the same tent. Why it is effecting one and not the other is beyond me. Maybe the more experienced PPKers can help with that.

 

[delta9nxs]

I have been thinking about this new room for a while now and decided what needed to be there and what was just overkill.

So I did away with the 2" pipe all the way around the inside perimeter of the tent and just did a 2" about 5' long and used the 1/2" black hose to connect the buckets.
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Also wanted to show some of the progress in the first flower tent. Hard to get one screen in one shot.
Also wanted to show the yellowing of the leaves on another in the same tent. Why it is effecting one and not the other is beyond me. Maybe the more experienced PPKers can help with that.
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the plant is not draining right.