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Biotech Researcher Finds Medical Pot Laced With Feces

Storm Shadow

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http://www.businessweek.com/article...-researcher-finds-feces-mold?campaign_id=yhoo

Marijuana’s Buzzkill DNA: Biotech Researcher Finds Medical Pot Laced With Feces

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Months after her biotechnology company sold for $40 million, Jessica Tonani is on Seattle’s Highway 99, where Kurt Cobain in his final days shot heroin in cheap motels. She’s scoring a gram of Blueberry Kush.

Tonani doesn’t plan to smoke the pot. Her typical procedure is to isolate some of its DNA and bank it, sequence its genetic profile, and test it for bacteria. After her stop at Choice Wellness, a medical marijuana store in one of the states where pot is newly legal, she buys the same strain in three more places (often collecting a “new-patient gift” of pot-infused gummi bears or goldfish). The goal for her new company, Verda Bio, is to build a database bringing order to billions of potential DNA combinations and, eventually, create stable strains that people can grow like a Red Delicious apple.
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ight now, Tonani says, people using pot for health conditions—legal in 23 U.S. states—are doing the equivalent of rummaging through their medicine cabinet blindfolded. One day they might get Tylenol; another, mouthwash. Even when they buy the same strain from the same place, it might not have the same effect because of differences in how each plant is grown.

The variety Harlequin, for example, is sometimes recommended for children with epilepsy because it’s high in cannabidiol, or CBD, a non-psychedelic pot compound that appears to limit seizures.

Tonani analyzed more than 20 samples of Harlequin along with Analytical 360, a Seattle testing lab, and found that 22 percent were high in the psychedelic tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, and had almost no CBD. Any kids taking it were likely just getting stoned.

Tonani is also looking at contaminants to determine where they’re introduced and how to control for them. The first two samples turned up a long list of nastiness, including the fecal bacteria Enterobacter asburiae and the vaginal bacteria Gardnerella vaginalis. What this means, politely, is that many people handling pot don’t wash their hands.

The irony of legalization in the U.S. is that recreational users often now have more certainty of their weed’s safety than people with legitimate conditions whose suffering was part of the original justification. Washington State, for example, requires its few dozen recreational stores to test pot for contaminants and to display THC and CBD content. There’s no such rule for the far more numerous medical pot stores—as many as 300 in the Seattle area alone—which are still in a legal gray area after the state legislature failed to pass a bill regulating them this year.

“It’s exactly the opposite of the way it should be,” says Randy Oliver, chief science officer at Analytical 360. Oliver says his lab gives failing grades to about 15 percent of the recreational samples it tests for mold, potentially dangerous to sick people with compromised immune systems. Medical pot stores rarely seek tests of mold and other contaminants, he says.

Some of the latest states permitting medical marijuana, including Florida and Utah, have done so by allowing only a type that’s verified as low in THC and high in CBD. Colorado, the other state to permit recreational use, doesn’t require contaminant testing for medical marijuana centers, though most test on their own, says Natriece Bryant, a spokeswoman for the state’s Marijuana Enforcement Division. Colorado also has rules on hand-washing and sanitation for those locations.

In the dispensaries Tonani visits, there’s little consistency. The waiting room in one place is like a doctor’s office, with plush leather chairs and stacks of manila folders. At another, lit with a harsh bulb over a marijuana plant growing in a converted shower, the guy at the counter says he’s never found that certain strains work any better for ailments. Just find one that gets you really high and numbs the pain, he says.

Tonani, 38, who co-founded GnuBIO, a DNA sequencing company sold (PDF) in April to Bio-Rad Laboratories (BIO), has a personal as well as financial interest in pot’s future. She turned to the drug a decade ago for a gastrointestinal condition that led to the removal of part of her stomach, multiple surgeries, and twice-weekly intravenous infusions. Her doctor has since asked her to counsel other patients who think pot might help, and she’s frustrated not to have better answers.

While Colorado is spending $9 million on research into marijuana’s potential medical benefits, there’s little federal funding because of pot’s classification as a Schedule I dangerous drug. Many of the cannabis breakthroughs—like Sativex, a mouth spray for multiple sclerosis sufferers developed by the U.K.’s GW Pharmaceuticals (GWPH)—have occurred overseas. Verda Bio, which may raise money from investors later this year, hopes to eventually generate revenue from licensing or sales of stable plant varieties and cannabis-based treatments, Tonani says.
“I honestly believe it saved my life,” she says of pot. “But it’s just not a medical system right now. Some people get lucky, and some people don’t.”
 

Weird

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While the genes dictate potential it is the environment that dictates the expression, especially of secondary metabolites.

our differences are physical, psychological and biological phenotypes.

older cultures recognized this, you can tell with asian (indian or chinese?) art that shows a person and the many aspects and of the same being connected and duplicated as if it were a shadow.

My guess is that they used psychedelics, and visualized what science has intellectualized either way both were conceptualized.

now ain't that special
 

Chunkypigs

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I keep my stash safe from prying noses in the old lady's vag, natch!

seriously we need better testing of turpine profiles, dna might be too specific.
 

waveguide

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While the genes dictate potential it is the environment that dictates the expression, especially of secondary metabolites.

western civ/"science" is incapable of making observations or discernments because capital is ubiquitous. if environment dictates expression, maybe the weed they're studying should be grown in lots of environments and not just around wealthy people who are interested in accumulating wealth.

you can imagine, if that were to have any effect on the expression of weed, it would be a fuckload of time before "western civilisation" were able to observe it. of course, all westerners know that a persons aspirations have no effect on physical substance lol
 

hush

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Awesome, I can use this story as further proof that legalization and regulation are way more important than people being able to make sick profits out of their spare bedroom in the bullshit gray market.
 

HidingInTheHaze

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To treat cannabis flowers as true medicine is kind of asinine, it should be looked at more as an herbal remedy.

I just find it funny people make such a big deal out of a little contaminants on pot that is intended to be smoked when there is much worse on your food.

The vast majority of produce at the grocery store is laced with pesticed and herbicide residues that cannot be washed off, even when all the skin is removed an uncomfortable amount of chemical residues still remain. Not to mention all of the artifical chemical preservatives, colorings, etc that is used in packaged food and no one one is really concerned about that.

Pot should be looked at and sold more like a vegetable or an herb, you wouldn't scoff at a little dirt on your corn would you? If you want clean pot with chemical consistency the only possibility will be lab derived concentrates. I just don't them being able to get that kind of consistency with flowers, way too many variables and I have seen myself the same clone turn out wildly different with just subtle changes to the environment.

I think one of the biggest problems is with weed is there is a lot of dumbasses out there running hog wild in this unregulated marijuana industry with little regard for human health but at the same time there is a lot of idiots that are legitimate farmers too that grow food without regard for human health and just hose their food crops down with what ever because they are too lazy to learn how to grow or kill bugs naturally.

But as the hypocrite Hush talks down about growers growing in a spare bedroom, well bud I bet some of those growers working out of a spare bed room know this plant better than some of the most well trained horticulturalists out there and put a lot of care into producing clean crops so don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
 

hush

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Hypocrite? I guess you think you know me or something? I'm not talking down on all bedroom growers, dumbass. I'm talking down on the ones who cry about legalization happening and how they won't be able to afford to keep their bedroom grow going when inspections are mandated, JUST LIKE THEY ARE IN VEGETABLE FARMS. I'm not throwing out shit with shit... How did you possibly misread what I typed up there?

I'm saying the bedroom horticulturalists ultimately need to move into a regulated and inspected farm place if they want to be able to sell their bathwater baby to customers. That is what I'm working on in the real world... getting people to understand that there are more greedy growers out there selling mislabeled bullshit product than there are good honest ones, so there is no longer any room for retail product that isn't heavily inspected, preferably by the FDA.
 

Floridian

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He has crusty kaka in his brain if he thinks Florida has medical MJ.In a few months hell yea though!Want to hear a good one?I'm being denied harmless shit like morphine and methadone after years because of some Scooby doo in my pee pee! lol fla
 

hush

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The word hypocrite has a specific meaning. I think you meant to call me a dick. And that's fine, you can think I'm a dick, as I'm surely at odds with you if you believe I just took a dump on you. That means you are someone who believes weed shouldn't have to be inspected before being sold in an open market, whether medical or recreational. Because that's who I was "taking a dump on" and no one else. I'm more concerned with the rights of the people who want to consume the product than I am the people who want to sell it.

Anyway, I'm not interested in arguing, or having internet confrontations. So, I'll walk away now.
 

HidingInTheHaze

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You're not a dick but I think hypocrite fits. Either way it's water under the bridge as I am not interested in arguing either.

Since you wanted to get technical...lol


hyp·o·crite
ˈhipəˌkrite
noun
noun: hypocrite; plural noun: hypocrites
a person who indulges in hypocrisy.


hy·poc·ri·sy
hiˈpäkrisē/
noun
noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies

the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.


Now back to the poop in my weed! :biglaugh:
 

hush

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I don't sell my weed, dude. Not sure where I'm being hypocritical? But whatever, let's stop hijacking this thread. I swear this was my last post. Moving right along...
 

Gry

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When we were speaking of crap of cannabis, it was an interesting thread. When we get to the point of talking about crap on people, I think it is time for something else. Or maybe reach for an umbrella or maybe toilet paper or something.
 

10ftGanja

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So wait... They want it grown organically in shit, but there cant be any shit near the weed?
That smells like guano!
 

resinryder

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New organic rules state that in order to grow any crop in a organic type grow any manures have to sit in the soil for 18 months before anything is planted in it. So you wouldn't be able to use bat or bird guano's during the grow
Use folar sprays and you are no longer growing organically because what's happening to the plant is no longer happening at the root zone.
Let your light dep greenhouse grow get inspected just prior to harvest and while the inspector is standing there a bird fly's in and takes a shit while doing so and on the spot your crop must be destroyed because it's no longer organic certified-happened at an organic veg farm in Charleston, SC last year. Farmer had to pull the whole crop and destroy it.
This is the reason more and more farmers are changing over to the "substanibly grown" designation.
Let the fda get involved in the production of marijuana and you'll really see just how fucked up the government can screw shit up.
 

Gry

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I think big corporate can fuck shit just as well as any government, and at several times the cost.
 
Chunkypig, there are companies such as Steep Hill Analytics that are testing terpene profiles and then working with some grad students here at CU Boulder to find correlation amongst the cannabis genome and cannabis terpene profiles... Figuring this out will lead to much more efficient, goal oriented selective breeding!
 

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