BigBud grow! aiming high!

[charliegreen]

hello fellow coco growers, ive jus stared a new grow in a 7 and a half feet by 3 and a half by 8 feet high room using canna coco in 25 litre buckets, using canna a+b and superthrive at the mo, im aiming for 5 ounce per plant, i have five plants. ive been told this should be easy as long as theres no major mistakes along the way, and should be aiming for 6,7 ounces plus espicially with the strain i have. is this possible with the amount of space i have?? im currently vegging under 600hps and planning on adding either another 400 or 600 in flower depending on how i can control the temps as its around 85 degrees with jus the one 600, and i have no pssible way of venting in and out i jus keep the door open every few hours with a fan blowing in.
i will get some pics up soon and hope to get a grow journal up and running.
all input appreciated cheers guys

 

[Neptune]

not possible in a 3ft. wide grow room... you will be lucky to get 1 ounce per plant if this is your first grow.

85F with one 600w is your maximum wattage, adding more will result in a zero yeild. I would recomend reducing your temps by 10F.

not all big bud strains yeild. Also, it's about 80% on the grower and 20% on the strain to yeild proper.


good luck, but aim lower and you will be happy

 

[charliegreen]

this is my second grow, my first grow was in exactly the same space same set up using coco and the same nutes, using to 400 hps i vertical i did eight plants of various strains and yeilded 25 ouncess dry weight, so il be hoping than more than 1 ounce per plant Neptune espicialy in 25 litre pots as i only used 7 litre pots for my first grow. and i yeilded 3 and half ounces per plant of the armegeddon skunk from my first grow so aiming for five ounces to me dont seem to unrealisticc.

 

[Old Man Time]

It would behoove you to look into proper ventilation. I have found that to be very important for a robust grow.
Your aspirations of 5 zips a plant wont happen without it.

With a perfect environment you might be able to achieve it.....but in your situation....no....i think not.

 

[charliegreen]

i think its posible as i sed in my previous post i got close to 3and a half ounce per plant from the armegeddon skunk and i did three of that strain in my first grow with the exact same setup as i hav now, i also made a lot of mistakes on my first grow, (i left them unattended for 3 days i came bak to them and they had all wilted but i managed to bring them bak) and considering im using bigger pots now which will allow me bigger root space therefore bigger plants which should get me a bigger yeild. but who knows?? only harvest time will tell!

 

[charliegreen]

i forgot to mention im planning on vegging for about five maybe six weeks to get them as big as possible, so this should help to increase yeild.

 

[sophisto]

Bro go for it man. I would document it along the way though. This way when you get some extra cabbage and get proper environmental control ( ventilation) you will be able to see clearly how it effects the grow and inevitably, yield.
If you only get .5 zip from each plant and have it documented with notes and solutions how to fix the current problems the grow was a success, if not now for future grows. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.. Good Luck with ya gro bro....

 

[EddieShoestring]

sounds like you're doing something right-some pics of the set up would be good

eddie

 

[charliegreen]

i will hopefilly very soon. jus havin some trouble with my cam eddie, its nothin special really compared to some of the setups in on here, ive jus got no possible way of gettin proper ventillation so il jus hav to make do with wot ove got.
one little question ive got i planted my rooted cuttings straight in to my 25 litre buckets will this hav any affects on my root develeopment or the overall plant develpment??
cus i kno most people start smaller then transplant.
cheers guys.

 

[DinoHanf]

nice going man, are u using aircooled lights?

 

[BotanicalBill]

My .02, given your lack of ventilation which is certainly your limiting factor and given the geometry of your room, #1 I don't think you'll be able to succesfully get 2 600W HPS in that space with no ventilation without running temps close to 100. I didn't catch if your ballasts are outside the room or not, but if they are you may be able to pull off 2 400s in that space to get better coverage for that geometry and hang them as close to the plants as possible. I think 2 600s even with the ballasts outside would probably be very hard to pull off temp wise. I've done similar spaces before with similar wattage and have had decent ventilation and was running in the mid-high 80s still.

Regardless of what you go with, best of luck with the grow!

 

[EddieShoestring]

alright charlie

one little question ive got i planted my rooted cuttings straight in to my 25 litre buckets will this hav any affects on my root develeopment or the overall plant develpment??

i'm no expert being quite new to growing in pots-
but it seems easier to get the watering right if they are in smaller pots and, i'm told, that they develop a better rootball is potted up a few times.
Having said that-on my first coco grow i did exactly what you've done-they showed slight signs of overwatering for the first few days but once they got going the grow went well.
good luck

eddie

 

[charliegreen]

botanicalbill- yh ur right about the two 600's in there i was thinkin maybe two 400's would we better, yh i have got the ballasts outside the room wich is helping but even with the 1 600 my temps are ranging from 80 and 86, (bearing in mind that here in the uk we are in summer, which is coming to an end so the temps should be dropping soon) which is still too hot and my plants are telling me this too (leafs curling upwards, is this due to heat stress??) ive also noticed some brown spots on some of the leafs is this due to heat stress too ? ive read it maybe a mg deficiancy.

Eddie- cheers for the input, i was thinking the same that i should of built up a nice root ball before going into larger pots. i was jus in a rush to get this grow on the road an was too lazy to get some smaller pots, ohweel too late now.
cheers!

 

[charliegreen]

hi guys ive got sum pics now from this grow any one no how to post pics up??
cheers guys.

 

[charliegreen]

ok guts so i found how to post pics now lol!
ok well heres some pics of my called big bud plants ( my guy who said they were bigbud is now sayin the person he got them from is tekkin him they are cheese can anyone tell from the pics? ) at 3 weeks veg from clone 25 liter buckets in 100% canna coco, under 2 x 400hps, nutes im using are canna a+b started at 5 ml per 10 liter now at 15ml per 10 liter and a teaspoon of superthrive per 10 liter

lookin a litle droopy here not sure why??





i noticed some brown spots on a few of the leaves and also some curling inwards any one no wot this is?




cheers guys il post some pics soon. all feedback welcome jus lookin to gain knowledge of all the pros on here. cheers

 

[guest5703]

damn 3 ounces a plant is surprising for the setup you have....Well I guess not, your doing it right I suppose. I have one 400 watt, and 6 plants in a small box, I hope to yield an ounce IF THAT off each plant. Your temps don't seem too bad to me. My shit is always around 85 and it does just fine like others I have talked to on this site same with them. Good luck, I'm sure you'll get close if not what you want. PEACE

EDIT-The brown spots are probably because you overfed them...Do you PH your water? If not you NEED to this will greatly increase your yield. And the curling on the leaves, it's summer heat still I bet. Even though you said your box only gets to 85, your plants look like they are telling you it gets too hot at some point of the day. They curl to try to reduce rays I think, maybe I am wrong, but they do curl because of heat. Hope this helps, Later

 

[mikeraach]

Looks more like a CA/MG def to me. Definitely check your ph though and make sure thats not off before you start adding things.

 

[charliegreen]

hey cheers caligreen, i thought that i may hav ovefed them, because from what im reading on here most of the growers water everydayin coco,an i hav been waterin everyday til 10% run off, but with my first grow i treated the coco i little like soil and waited till the coco was a little dry until i fed them again, i think im gonna miss a couple days an see how they respond. yh i know its hard to beleive me getting 3 ounce plus a plant my first grow, but i vegged the for arouund five and a half weeks i kno a lot of people veg only a couple days or a few weeks then flip em, so i think the veg time for me was what got me a fat yeild, i think im gonna veg these for about 6 mayb 7 weeks to take advantage of the root space in those buckets,
safe growin , cheers

 

[guest5703]

For sure bro, a big veg will yield bigger if you have the space and equipment. Cal mag Def I don't think that it is...I have grown in soil, hydro, coco, and mixed. In my hydro, that is more like coco to me than soil is, I had some brown or "rust" like colors on the leaves. Just because it was overfed a little. You get cal/mag def when you really start putting a bunch of flowering nutrients in the mix. Phosphate, and phosphorous is what causes so much of a cal/mag def(this is what I read from the grow bible)

When I started to flower my half soil half coco mix I used a lot of flowering nootes to get them in started good. Well I did not use cal mag plus, this is what I use now. With cal/mag def you would get twisted or curling leaves, also missed calcium alone will cause the leaves to bend and twist. My plants in my box I have now were FOR SURE NO DOUBT cal/mag def. The new flowering frosted as hell leaves were all twisting and turning and I knew from prior experience this meant calcium problems. I got the cal/mag and started using it every watering I gave them and now my leaves are straight and DANK.

Anyway, that's my two cents on cal/mag def! haha, good luck figuring out the problem, when you learn what it is you'll never do it again I bet! Experience is golden! Also bro, I'll ask again, do you PH your nutrients before you give them to your girlies? BIG BIG thing you must do! PH!! If you don't test the PH levels, then you might as well just forget giving your plants food because if you don't PH those nutrients you add to your water will be nutrients locked out from the roots. Make sure you PH if you don't have a digital PH stick(like I wish I had) then go to your local hydro or pet store and get a PH tester. GOOD LUCK BRO!!!

 

[charliegreen]

cheers cali, ive neva tested my ph before cus as i sed the guy who told me to use the canna a+b said u didnt need to test the ph wen usin this stuff because it fixes it for u, is this correct or should i deffinitly test the ph?? this is the third week of veg and ive only jus starte dnoticin these brown spots up until now they looked fine jus a few leaves curling here an there
i have a bluelab truncheon nutrient meter but i dont think this reads the ph it jus says ppm, ec and cf???? not sure how to read this thing i got it free wen i bought couple lights of a freind.
cheers guys