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Biden: No Guns for Weed Smokers

Three Berries

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https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-no-guns-for-weed-smokers/

Biden: No Guns for Weed Smokers

The Biden administration is defending a federal ban on gun-ownership for medical marijuana users, urging a federal judge to dismiss a challenge to the statute.

Medical marijuana users should be prohibited from owning guns because the substance impairs the "judgment, cognition, and physical coordination" of those under its influence, lawyers for the Justice Department argued. Florida agricultural commissioner Nikki Fried (D.) is spearheading the lawsuit against the government for its prohibition on people who consume cannabis products with a prescription from owning firearms.

"I'm suing the Biden administration because people's rights are being limited," the commissioner said in April after filing the suit. "Medical marijuana is legal. Guns are legal. This is about people's rights and their freedoms to responsibly have both."

The administration's stance stands in contrast to President Joe Biden's rhetoric on marijuana. Biden has endorsed decriminalization and argued the federal government shouldn’t interfere with state affairs when it comes to marijuana laws.

The Biden administration’s inconsistent stance on the drug mirrors that of Vice President Kamala Harris. As California attorney general, Harris was responsible for locking up thousands for marijuana-related crimes, the Washington Free Beacon reported in 2019. That same year, as she was running for president, she said she was pre-disposed to like smoking marijuana due to her Jamaican heritage. The comment drew stern criticism from her father, who said she was stereotyping people on the island.

Most Americans support both the legalization of medical marijuana and the private ownership of firearms. Ninety-one percent of Americans believe that weed should be legal in some form, according to a Pew Research Center poll.

Reason magazine pointed out that the Justice Department's argument citing marijuana's effect on the mind "could be applied to many legal drugs" such as alcohol or prescription opioids that are legal for gun-owners to consume.

In its motion to dismiss the lawsuit, the Justice Department cited historical disarmament of "groups deemed dangerous," such as 17th-century Catholics and American Indians, as precedent for the practice of preventing certain groups from owning weapons.

Fried is running in the Democratic primary to challenge Republican governor Ron DeSantis in November. Fried and the governor appear to be on the same page regarding medical marijuana users' Second Amendment rights.

"Floridians should not be deprived of a constitutional right for using a medication lawfully," DeSantis's office said.
 

Ca++

Well-known member
So what about drinking?

Is your emergency room full of drunks or smokers that did silly things?
Here it's always the drunks getting into scuffles and falling over.

This should be easy enough to weigh up, in terms of the common good. If people medicating to sleep are found to be a problem, then the drinkers themselves should be denying it.
 

Three Berries

Active member
So what about drinking?

Is your emergency room full of drunks or smokers that did silly things?
Here it's always the drunks getting into scuffles and falling over.

This should be easy enough to weigh up, in terms of the common good. If people medicating to sleep are found to be a problem, then the drinkers themselves should be denying it.
Too many desirable benefits for cannabis to be loose on the markets unpatented/unregulated/untaxed/unvilified
 

St. Phatty

Active member
https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-no-guns-for-weed-smokers/

Biden: No Guns for Weed Smokers

The Biden administration is defending a federal ban on gun-ownership for medical marijuana users, urging a federal judge to dismiss a challenge to the statute.

Medical marijuana users should be prohibited from owning guns because the substance impairs the "judgment, cognition, and physical coordination" of those under its influence, lawyers for the Justice Department argued.

In that case, they should try banning its use among Tech workers.

If you did that in Silicon Valley, it would shut down.

It would be like banning Caffeine.

There is an interesting Social Test case ready to go: Russia.

Eventually they will legalize. Their tech productivity will increase markedly.
 

CannaRed

Cannabinerd
When you buy a gun they ask if you are a doper.

Of course not
Yes they do ask. At least in Virginia. It's one of the questions on the computer form that you must fill out before purchase. It specifically asks about marijuana. You just click "no"
I had on a Cheech and Chong Tshirt and the worker asked me if I smoke marijuana I said "no, I use cannabis", and he said he couldn't sell me a rifle. I told him I was just joking and he pointed at my shirt and said "you're wearing a Cheech and chong shirt"
I told him that "I also have an Atlanta Braves shirt at home, but I don't play ball and I've never been to Georgia". He rolled his eyes and sold me the rifle
 

Capt.Ahab

Feeding the ducks with a bun.
Veteran
So what type of prohibition is next ?
Cant drive a car?
Cant get a professional license to ply your trade?
Lose your job because you cant be trusted to operate a fork lift or repair a clients vehicle ?
I've always said that a med license is a Trojan horse that the state and feds will eventually use against you in order to deny you your rights and livelihood.
 

Loc Dog

Hobbies include "drinkin', smokin' weed, and all k
Veteran
So what type of prohibition is next ?
Cant drive a car?
Cant get a professional license to ply your trade?
Lose your job because you cant be trusted to operate a fork lift or repair a clients vehicle ?
I've always said that a med license is a Trojan horse that the state and feds will eventually use against you in order to deny you your rights and livelihood.
When I was 20 I drove a specially made forklift that went higher than others at that time high as hell and never spilled a load, for a watch company. Most of the time at full speed between loading dock and racks.
 

nono_fr

Active member
So what type of prohibition is next ?
Cant drive a car?
Cant get a professional license to ply your trade?
Lose your job because you cant be trusted to operate a fork lift or repair a clients vehicle ?
I've always said that a med license is a Trojan horse that the state and feds will eventually use against you in order to deny you your rights and livelihood.
Turn off the lights after 7pm to save energy?
 

fatigues

Active member
Veteran
So what about drinking?

Is your emergency room full of drunks or smokers that did silly things?
Here it's always the drunks getting into scuffles and falling over.

This should be easy enough to weigh up, in terms of the common good. If people medicating to sleep are found to be a problem, then the drinkers themselves should be denying it.
Does cannabis impair judgment so much so that firearms should probably not be owned by those who regularly partake?

Yes, when it comes to handguns at least, I happen to agree with that. Mind you, I happen to have the same view about people whose strongest drink is black coffee.

Does alcohol impair the judgment so much that firearms should not be owned by those who regularly drink alcohol?

YES. Emphatically yes. FAR more so than with cannabis.

So why isn't the federal government doing that? Because alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't. 100 years ago, alcohol was, too - but you went down that road and it didn't work out.

"Gee: It's almost as if handguns are inherently dangerous and should only be owned by people who's job requires it."

Yes. Right.
 

Volcanna

Active member
Veteran
But smoking crack with a gun totally acceptable. I wonder if this is the gun hallie Biden threw into a trash can in front of a grocery store and the SS had to go retrieve.
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