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One Burned in Possible Honey Oil Lab Explosion

By Adrian Arambulo and Corey Arvin


An explosion rocked a Commerce neighborhood, where firefighters say a marijuana grow house and drug lab was discovered. Adrian Arambulo reports for the NBC4 News at Noon on Friday, Feb. 12, 2016. (Published 5 hours ago)

Firefighters protected nearby homes from a fire that began after an explosion Friday morning at what investigators described as a marijuana grow house and drug lab in Commerce.

The fire was reported around 2:41 a.m. in the 5700 block of Jillson Street, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. It was knocked down around 3 a.m., fire officials said.


One man suspected of being involved with the lab was injured and suffered burns.

Investigators said they discovered evidence indicating the residence was a marijuana grow house and possibly used as a lab to produce honey oil, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Honey oil is extracted from cannabis, a process that often involves butane used as a solvent.

Local and state investigators seized bags of marijuana, burnt butane tanks and equipment like charred hot plates used to make honey oil.

Authorities said a dog and child are believed to live at the home.

Det. Scott Schulze says at least one lab pops up every week in Los Angeles County, from downtown LA to the Antelope Valley.

"Their finished products is 70 to 80 percent pure THC, so it's a huge high for them and much different than smoking regular marijuana," he said.

No other injuries were reported, and other homes in the densely populated neighborhood were not damaged.
 

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Home Damaged In Hash Oil Explosion
Updated: Sat 7:38 AM, Feb 13, 2016
By: KKTV


Authorities are investigating a hash oil explosion in Pueblo.



Authorities are investigating a hash oil explosion in Pueblo. Firefighters responded to Grissom Street on Pueblo's east side Friday night.

Police say a narcotics-related explosion happened at a home in the area. People inside the home were taken to the hospital. They were treated for second-degree burns to their faces and arms. Investigators say they were trying to make hash oil when the explosion happened. Apparently, they did not realize butane gas was filling the home. It ignited and triggered the explosion.

The inside of the home suffered a lot of damage. The ceiling and walls were burned. The explosion also melted window blinds.

Authorities confiscated the equipment used to make the hash oil. The people in the home could face felony charges.
 

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Arrest made, second man wanted in Lemoore honey oil explosion

Anthony Dominguez, 38, is believed to be responsible for the lab

William Scott Boyajian, 18, was injured in the explosion and arrested on Feb. 17
William Boyajian, left, and Anthony Dominguez
William Boyajian, left, and Anthony Dominguez Lemoore Police Department



An 18-year-old man was arrested Wednesday and another man is wanted by Lemoore police for their alleged connection to a Jan. 17 honey oil lab explosion at a Lemoore hotel.

William Scott Boyajian was arrested at home Wednesday while recovering from injuries he received in the butane honey oil lab explosion. Boyajian was admitted to the Community Regional Medical Center burn center and had been recently released when he was arrested, police said.

Boyajian was booked into the Kings County Jail on charges of arson, conspiracy, child endangerment and other offenses.

Anthony Dominguez, 38, was seen on surveillance video running from the scene and is a suspect in the case, police said. Dominguez is believed to be responsible for the honey oil lab and is being sought by police.

Dominguez is Native American, 5 feet 10 inches tall, and around 220 pounds, police said. He has black hair, brown eyes and numerous tattoos.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Dominguez is asked to contact Detective Albert Avelar at the Lemoore Police Department at 559-924-9574.
 

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9 People, Including 3 Children, Displaced After Honey-Oil Lab Explosion

SACRAMENTO -- An early morning garage fire left nine people including children without a place to live, and fire officials are blaming the blaze on a drug lab.

The flames exploded on the 4000 block of Andedon Circle around 6:30 a.m. Saturday morning.

Homeowner Gus Viale said he got a phone call alerting him to the fire. He rents the home out. The Sacramento Metro Fire District said the cause of the blaze is a butane honey oil lab, but fire officials said explosions like this one aren't uncommon.

"The burn center in Sacramento has identified one of the No. 1 causes they're seeing for burn injuries in our area in patients that are being admitted with burns are these hash oil type operations," said Battalion Chief Barbie Law with Sac Metro Fire.

No one was hurt, but two people were transported to the hospital for injuries unrelated to the fire. In total, nine people, including three children, and four dogs were displaced. Red Cross stepped in to find the residents temporary housing.

Fire officials said there is one suspect but couldn't comment on if an arrest has been made.

The total estimated damage is $50,000.
 

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Man Facing Charges After Butane Honey Oil Lab Explodes In Auto Repair Shop
Posted 6:06 PM, January 8, 2016, by Sara Zendehnam

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GRASS VALLEY --

A Grass Valley businessman is behind bars after his drug operation went up in flames early Thursday morning. A butane honey oil lab inside an auto repair shop at 125 Spring Hill Drive exploded and set fire to the business.

Hoovers Auto Repair and Smog shop has been at the industrial park in Grass Valley for about a year, according to neighbors. Glenn Hoover, the owner of the shop, is now behind bars after investigators served a search warrant and found evidence of making the potent form of marijuana at his business and home.

Fifty-year-old Hoover is now behind bars facing two felonies for manufacturing a controlled substance and arson.

Lieutenant Steve Johnson with the Grass Valley Police Department said, "The price for honey oil is quite high because of its purified and potent form so the money is driving it and we're seeing more and more of these labs."

The Grass Valley PD busted dozens of butane honey oil labs in 2015. Johnson said Hoovers actually marks the third lab explosion in the last year.

No one was injured and neighboring businesses weren't affected.

Glenn Hoover is being held in the Nevada County Jail. His bail is set at $35,000.
 

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well im scared...I want to try to make oil but all this stuff with alcohol scares me.
I dont want to mess up and blow something up. or mess up and leave some stuff like butane in oil and someone eats it...

can we make powerful oil just using coconut oil, lechtin, and weed? or is this ISO, BHO, HBO and all those other alphabets necessary to do this to make it fight cancer and make it very powerful?
 
I would caution you against making oil. Instead try dry sift or rosin making. Yes coconut oil is a better solvent than butane it's pretty much the best solvent you can use but you need to extract in stages (over time) with it and your not smoking it then. the butane we buy contains a lubricant for spraying and an odor additive. I would encourage you to try squishing your bud or trim into rosin or sifting it thru screens. some can achieve 90%+ pure dry sift by simply sifting slowly thru a 70micron screen or so. ISO and BHO are not the way if you ask me I would put major thought into having fun carefully dry sifting like an archeologist or buying a hair straightener/press and pressing rosin out & dabbing. Good luck have fun

well im scared...I want to try to make oil but all this stuff with alcohol scares me.
I dont want to mess up and blow something up. or mess up and leave some stuff like butane in oil and someone eats it...

can we make powerful oil just using coconut oil, lechtin, and weed? or is this ISO, BHO, HBO and all those other alphabets necessary to do this to make it fight cancer and make it very powerful?
 

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Man Arrested After Butane Explosion
Posted: Sun 10:37 AM, Feb 28, 2016
By: KKTV 11 News

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Colorado Springs Police say the man was extracting marijuana concentrate when the explosion happened and started a fire in his kitchen.
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Colorado Springs Police say that Thomas Chmielewski was extracting marijuana concentrate when the explosion happened and started a fire in his kitchen.

It happened around 3:20 Sunday morning in the 2500 block of San Marcos Drive.

Police responded to assist the fire department on a structure fire call.

When police got on scene they discovered that a "significant explosion" had occurred and started a fire in the kitchen.

Chmielewski was arrested and booked into the El Paso County Jail.


Another fire/explosion in the kitchen, you'd think that it would dawn on people that its really very dangerous in the kitchen while doing anything with Butane. Get it out of residential area's and be good people, its not just your life but everyone around you.
 

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Here is the #1 candidate for the Guiness book of Records; Falls asleep while cooking up hash and the kitchen explodes, thought he'd had a massive bowel movement.



Affidavit: Colorado Springs man fell asleep while making hash oil, causing explosion
By: Chhun Sun
March 1, 2016 Updated: Today at 7:40 pm
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It wasn't until Thomas Chmielewski woke up and heard an explosion in his kitchen that he realized something went wrong in his attempt to make hash oil, according to his arrest affidavit.

The explosion caused an early Sunday fire at his home on the 2500 block of San Marcos Drive in southeastern Colorado Springs, police said. Chmielewski, 30, told investigators that he fell asleep on his couch after he extracted oils from marijuana, placed heating solution on a hot stove to degas hash oil and waited for the residue to evaporate.
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According to the affidavit, Chmielewski was "confused and frightened" when he saw smoke throughout his home.

He told three friends in an upstairs bedroom to hurry out of the house when he realized it was on fire, the affidavit said.

Chmielewski "was in the process of extracting marijuana concentrate utilizing butane when a significant explosion and subsequent fire occurred in the kitchen of the residence," police said.

The fire was reported just before 4 a.m. Sunday.

At Chmielewski's home, investigators found several large plastic bags of marijuana, a burnt stove that left black scorch marks on the kitchen wall and ceiling, two large trash cans filled with used butane cylinders and a large trash can lid filled with marijuana. An officer also found methamphetamine on Chmielewski.

Butane can be used to extract the psychoactive compounds from marijuana and create concentrate hash oil. Many methods for extracting the marijuana concentrate involve subjecting the slurry of marijuana and solvents to the dangerous heat of a stove.

The Colorado General Assembly last year passed a law banning most production of homemade hash oil.

Chmielewski was arrested on suspicion of breaking the hash oil law, fourth-degree arson and unlawful possession of a controlled substance.

He is scheduled to be advised of his charges in a court appearance March 9, court records show.
 

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Police: Honey oil lab caused Hanford house fire
Investigators search for suspects in Sunday explosion


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A house on Olive Circle in South Hanford burned due to a honey oil fire on Sunday night.
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The Hanford Police Department said a butane “honey oil” lab caused a south Hanford house to catch fire over the weekend.

The Hanford Fire Department responded to the fire around 6:30 p.m. Sunday in the 1200 block of Olive Circle. Firefighters extinguished the blaze and returned Monday morning to investigate the cause. Police said investigators arrived around 9:31 a.m. and found an unknown man searching through the house. The man fled when confronted.

Police said investigators found numerous cans of butane in the rubble, which they believed were remnants of a drug lab. Hanford police officers responded and found several containers of honey oil, as well as large containers of marijuana and equipment to convert the drug into honey oil.

Honey oil, or hash oil, is a concentrated cannabis product made using highly flammable butane to extract the psychoactive THC from the plant.

Police contacted the Kings County Narcotic Task Force due to the dangerous nature of honey oil labs, which can be contaminated with hazardous vapors and chemicals.

The California Department of Justice drug lab team responded from Fresno to assist the cleanup. The incident is still under investigation.

Sgt. Mark Bevens, unit supervisor for the Kings County Narcotic Task Force, said no one was home at the time of the explosion. No arrests had been made as of Wednesday afternoon.

“We’ve got some solid leads that we’re following up on,” Bevens said.

A number of honey oil lab explosions have been reported in the Central Valley over the past couple of months.

A honey oil lab caused an early morning explosion in a Travelodge Lemoore room on Jan. 17. Lemoore police said the explosion was likely caused by vapors from a flammable solvent being ignited. The blast reportedly blew the door off its hinges and shattered the window.

Police said Christian Villalobos, 21, of Avenal, and William Boyajian, 18, of Fresno, were injured by the explosion and were taken to area hospitals. Both men were charged with arson, criminal conspiracy, child endangerment, manufacturing a controlled substance and other related charges.

A third suspect, identified as Anthony Dominguez, 38, of Lemoore, is still at large. Police said Dominguez is believed to be in the Fresno or Lemoore area. He has black hair, brown eyes, 5-feet-10 inches tall, about 220 pounds with numerous tattoos.

Other cases have included a home in central Fresno that caught fire on Feb. 4 due to a suspected honey oil lab. Another home in the Merced County town of Winton caught fire on Feb. 8 after a honey oil lab exploded in the garage.

Bevens said the growing number of honey oil lab explosions is likely due to the growing popularity of the drug, which is named for its gooey, honey-liked texture. Because honey oil is 90 to 95 percent pure THC, users can get high using smaller amounts than with marijuana.

Bevens said hash oil labs are often set up in confined spaces, which can make them difficult to spot. In many cases, he said, the labs may be undetectable until they explode.

The biggest indicators of a nearby honey oil lab are increased traffic to and from the home and a strong smell of butane. Neighbors may also notice an accumulation of discarded blue caps from the butane canisters.

“For some reason they keep the butane bottles but they discard the caps,” Bevens said.

Bevens said butane gas is heavier than air, which causes it to settle near the ground. Lighting a cigarette or even a spark of static electricity from walking across carpet can ignite the gas. Household appliances can also cause explosions.

“A lot of these people cook it in their garage,” Bevens said. “And a lot of people have a water heater in their garage.”

Bevens said he could not comment on the cause of the Hanford explosion. He said these types of cases will likely become more common as the demand for the drug continues to grow. Some honey oil manufacturers further refine the product to create a substance like hard candy known as “shatter.”

Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill last year that makes it an aggravated felony to manufacture butane hash oil and methamphetamine near an occupied residence or structure. The law went into effect on Jan. 1.

Bevens urged residents who suspect a butane honey oil lab in their neighborhood to contact their local law enforcement agency. Explosions caused by these labs can result in severe burns and other injuries.
 

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Hash oil explosion causes damage to home in NE Portland
By KATU.com Staff Monday, March 7th 2016

Firefighters say fires inside a home were likely caused by a butane hash oil explosion. (KATU Photo)
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PORTLAND, Ore. — Firefighters said a Monday night fire inside a home was likely started by a butane hash oil explosion.

Firefighters were called to a home in the 4700 block of Northeast 111th Avenue at about 6:30 p.m. after explosions were reported.

Firefighters quickly put out the fires in the home. They said up to 10 people, three of whom were less than 6 years old, may have been inside the home at the time of the explosions.

No one was injured.

Firefighters said the home suffered minor structural damage.

Having children and others in the house while cooking up BHO on the stove, now the guy will find out what enhancements to a charge will be, lucky no one died. On the streets in the winter with children and 9 other people, really smart.
 

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Man and cat injured in honey oil explosion in Fresno

A Fresno man was severely burned in a ?honey oil? explosion. It happened at his apartment on Ashlan Avenue near Millbrook Avenue on Tuesday.
By Joe Ybarra
Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:31PM
FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) --

A Fresno man was severely burned in a "honey oil" explosion. It happened at his apartment on Ashlan Avenue near Millbrook Avenue on Tuesday.

Police say Erik Gregg was inside the bathroom of the apartment, extracting honey oil from marijuana when a flame from the water heater ignited the butane he was using and created an explosion. Lt. Joe Gomez said, "Didn't die but he easily could have died or killed somebody else here."

Moments later, firefighters showed up and Gregg was taken to the hospital. Hector Vasquez with the Fresno Fire Dept. said, "When we got here the fire was out and crews pretty much went into overhaul and found the smoldering spots up in the attic."

Police say Gregg was severely injured - more than 60-percent of his body was burned and his cat was also hurt, "The cat was singed up pretty good," Lt. Gomez added.

Animal control picked up the cat and rescued a dog from the home too.

Fernando Salas who shares a wall with Gregg says the explosion took out the plumbing and shut off his water. "I was checking everything, checking the bathroom, checked the sink, checked the walls, making sure everything is cool," Salas said.

He didn't find any damage on his side of the wall but the blast did shake him up. Salas said, "You live around people and you're messing around with everybody's lives."

Gregg is expected to be in the hospital for a while. His apartment will be boarded up and police say he'll be facing charges for animal cruelty, arson and drug manufacturing.
 
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Officials say 10 persons, including three children, were at home at the time of the fiery blast in Parkrose …

Portland Fire & Rescue Parkrose Station Truck 2 is one of the first units at the scene of the powerful explosion and fire.

Story and photos by David F. Ashton

An apartment exploded in flames on March 7, at about 6:30 p.m., at 4726 NE 111th Avenue – a half block south of NE Sandy Boulevard.

Darrell Thompson, a resident of the apartment complex that looked as if it once was a motel, told reporters that he heard a “really big explosion” – which caused him grab a fire extinguisher and head to the rear of the complex.

“I saw fire shoot out from under the eaves,” Thompson said. “The room was fully engulfed in flames when I went in.”

In one of the rear housing units, a detonation, said to be caused by a “hash oil cook”, started the fire.

“When crews got there, they found that the explosion had started fires inside and outside the house,” said Portland Fire & Rescue Public Information Officer Lt. Rich Tyler. “Crews were able to quickly put out the fires, and searched the home for occupants.”

At the time of the big blast, up to ten occupants may have been in the home, with three of those occupants being less than six years old, Tyler revealed.

“One occupant had to be escorted out of the home, but there were no injuries.”

These cans of butane, found at the scene, were allegedly used in the illegal “hash oil cook” that went awry.

Reports indicate that the individual cooking the hash oil ran from the scene before emergency responders arrived.

If hash oil extraction is done wrong, the process can cause a fireball or a flash fire powerful enough to blow out windows and doors, as happened during this instance.

“The Arson Squad has stated that there are early indications that the cause of this fire is a butane ‘hash oil’ explosion,” Tyler said. “The house had minor structural damage due to the explosion. The investigation is ongoing and more information will be shared as it becomes available.”

After extinguishing the blaze, firefighters start putting away their gear.

© 2016 David F. Ashton ~ East Portland News
 

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Here is a follow up from an incident of a few months ago, there is a film of the actual explosion of the butane, need some expertise to see what kind of extraction outfit the company had, go to the URL above to see the equipment being used.


Santa Fe pot business cited for violations in explosion; video released
By Edmundo Carrillo / Journal Staff Writer
Published: Tuesday, March 15th, 2016 at 6:59pm
Updated: Tuesday, March 15th, 2016 at 10:16pm
Santa Fe pot business cited for violations in explosion; video released
This image from surveillance video shows the moment an explosion took place during the making of hash oil at at Santa Fe medical marijuana dispensary, severely injuring two employees.

SANTA FE – The federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration has completed its investigation into an explosion that put two local marijuana dispensary employees in the hospital with serious burns, and as a result New MexiCann Natural Medicine has had to pay several fines for employee safety and health violations.

The state Environment Department also released video of the horrific explosion Tuesday, which shows the dispensary going from completely normal to engulfed in flames in just a flash.

OSHA has fined New MexiCann, one of the state's 35 medical marijuana dispensaries, for a total of 12 “serious” violations to workplace health and safety totalling $13,500. This comes after a roughly eight-month investigation into how employees Nicholas Montoya, 29, and Aaron Smith, 28, were badly burned in an explosion and fire while making concentrated hash oil on July 23.

Both men were taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center before being flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, where Montoya was listed as critical for some time.

Two inspections were conducted, one for safety hazards and one for health hazards. The safety investigation netted seven “serious” violations, meaning the infractions that can result in serious injury or death, according to Robert Genowy, bureau chief of Environment Department's Occupational Health and Safety Bureau.

New MexiCann was initially charged $14,500 for those seven infractions, but Genoway said Tuesday New MexiCann paid an informal settlement of $7,250 reached some time last month as the company did not contest the violations.

The health inspection found five serious infractions, for which New Mexicann paid fines to the tune of $6,250. Citations for the health investigation were issued in December while citations for the safety inspection were issued January. Online records show that inspectors verified in January that there were no continuing hazards.

The explosion happened while Smith and Montoya were making hash oil, a dangerous process that involves soaking marijuana in butane to extract tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.

Video from the incident shows the blast happening as Smith opens a door to leave the room while Montoya is doing the extraction. The room is immediately engulfed in flames, and Montoya struggles to find an exit while pieces of the roof come crashing down on him. Smith spent three weeks in the hospital and had skin grafts on his hands, arms and legs. Montoya underwent several surgeries and got a lung infection but was upgraded from critical to serious condition after a few weeks at UNMH.

A report from the Santa Fe Fire Department said a butane leak from one of the lines met with an ignition source to cause the blast, which was powerful enough to separate the roof from the wall and melt fluorescent lights close to the explosion. Fire inspectors couldn't pinpoint what caused the ignition, but noted that the extraction equipment is moved often and could have caused a leak in one of the butane lines.
 

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The guy on the right, bent over, appears to have either an infrared thermometer or an actual heat gun (oh lord, no).
And if I'm not mistaken, he looks like he's purging probably a fresh slab on silicone on the ground. The spark seems to be drawn immediately to his hand, and doesn't seem like the leak was far from that point at all. I'm leaning towards the guy using a heat gun to purge a slab right next to his closed loop...
Man, people blow me away daily (as they blow themselves away, quite literally).

If you plan on using things like IR thermometers around your collection pot or whatever equipment, make sure you're using what is labeled "intrinsically safe" meaning it is wired appropriately for Class 1 Div. 1 or 2 standards. I'd go ahead and plan for Div. 1 on all things indoors.

Lackluster ventilation for sure, as there is no way they had strong, steady clean air displacement via centrifugal fan.
 

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"The guy on the right, bent over, appears to have either an infrared thermometer or an actual heat gun (oh lord, no).
And if I'm not mistaken, he looks like he's purging probably a fresh slab on silicone on the ground. The spark seems to be drawn immediately to his hand, and doesn't seem like the leak was far from that point at all. I'm leaning towards the guy using a heat gun to purge a slab right next to his closed loop...
Man, people blow me away daily (as they blow themselves away, quite literally).

If you plan on using things like IR thermometers around your collection pot or whatever equipment, make sure you're using what is labeled "intrinsically safe" meaning it is wired appropriately for Class 1 Div. 1 or 2 standards. I'd go ahead and plan for Div. 1 on all things indoors.

Lackluster ventilation for sure, as there is no way they had strong, steady clean air displacement via centrifugal fan.
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Take a look at how these two men were dressed for extraction, there was no thought in the world by either of these men that a cataclysmic explosion might take place. The one walking out the door had arms and legs bare as did the man on the ground, both had all skin exposed fried in the 3400+ degree blast, $100 dollars worth of fire protection on the arms, legs and face would have cut the physical injuries to the men more than 70% I bet. Amazon.com and many other places have fire retardant clothing, buy it and wear it for when something really bad happens right in your face; if it can happen it will happen eventually, you're playing with odds and probabilities. Have experts check your rig out, get fire specialists in to take a look, follow their advice you have skin in the game.

https://www.google.com/search?q=but...fLAhWEMGMKHfGoBOIQ7AkISg&biw=1396&bih=857Here is a URL for butane gas detectors. I don't know which one is the best but there is hundreds of them on the market starting prices are from $15 and up, personally I would spend money on this item and get the best. Butane gas will sink to the floor, its a heaver gas, you'll need detectors on the floor where the gas will pool, you'll need advice about where the best locations for a detector might be.

http://www.carhartt.com/category/carhartt-flame-resistant This is a site for flame resistant clothing or go to Amazon.com This equipment is really cheap when you compare what the costs of one day in a burn ward costs [$4,ooo to $10,000 per day.}
 
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You mean, duh, like CLS systems aren't foolproof? ;)

Thank you for keeping this thread going jump/injack, great job here. You deserve an IC title!

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