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Thomas Paine

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I saw their skin was like coming off their arms

I saw their skin was like coming off their arms

BTW - Please notice that the explosion happened outside, in the courtyard where they were making the crap (watch the video).

I Saw their Skin Coming off their Arms
FRESNO COUNTY, Calif. (KMPH)
It has happened again, another explosion in Fresno, resulting from people trying to extract THC out of marijuana, creating the by-product known as 'honey oil'.

This time, seven people were burned.

The explosion happened at the Casa Blanca Apartments on Gettysberg near First Street in central Fresno.

One witness says, "I noticed somebody that had been burned really badly. They were going right in front of my living room window just screaming in pain. I saw their skin was like coming off their arms."

Witnesses say the explosion sent a huge fireball into the sky shortly after 5 Friday evening.

Six men and a woman suffered burns.

Firefighters say one man suffered second-degree burns to more than 50 percent of his body.

Firefighters are concerned because this is the fourth such explosion in Fresno in just the past 2 weeks.

Apartment resident Kristi says, "It was surreal because I've never seen anything like that, I've never seen someones skin hanging, it was pretty scary."

Another woman says, "It makes me a little nervous, because that could have been my neighbor next to my apartment. My apartment could have caught on fire, there were little kids who lived next door and they were terrified."

Residents say people were running from the blast.

Fire crews say some of the people cooking the illegal oil were seen jumping fences trying to get away while they were on fire.

So now police are checking local hospitals to see if anyone shows up with burns.

http://www.kmph.com/story/24487548/honey-oil-marijuana-explosion-7-rushed-to-hospital
 

gaiusmarius

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now thats going too far. it's butane that cause the explosions, not ether thats used for winterizing. it's the large amount of butane being allowed to collect waiting for a spark. you have to be objective. GW has actually done more to help people stay safe then anything else. you can not blame a trend that happened before GW even started his own bho documentations.

but the main point is that people being irresponsible can not be blamed on anyone but them selves. on the whole our member authored tutorials are saving lives by teaching people a safe way to do the bho thing.
 
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Ill second the low class comment. Also a very ill informed an uneducated attempt to attack GW. Where does he recommend using 99% ISO for winterization and filtering open in freezer? No where... Also if you had any idea what you were talking about your would recognize that this is the single solvent dewaxing craze that is causing these fridge explosions, which GW has nothing to do with. Do you understand the difference between winterization and dewaxing?

The only idiots blowing up are the ones not reading GW's posts.
 

Hermanthegerman

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coreymillia42

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So now you only have to type in "hash oil lab explosion" to see that its happening pretty regularly. I realize not everyone is a baller and doesnt have $3k to buy something in the closed loop extractor category...but really I hate to say it but the people selling the shitty tube extractors are more of a problem in my opinion. They shouldnt be available, If you have a 1/4 lb glass extractor and you run 1500 mls of fluid thru it and are left with a glass baking pan full of highly volatile liquid...and dont see a problem? If you cant afford a real extractor then you should be using a turkey baster...but the hardware store will always have pipe bombs...
Anyway my point. If a case of butane is $35-85 and you use maybe 6 cans a week. For expensive butane you will go thru 35 cases of butane to reach $3k. So were talking about 70 weeks of butane. Now if you actually use this much butane, and you dont realize that a real extractor would pay for itself in a year in butane alone...then you are kind of dumb. and will probably explode one day.

Now as far as single solvent winterization... It was never something I wanted to try personally. Be safe and READ more, then make sure that guy isnt full of shit.
 

jump /injack

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http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...-of-Hash-Oil-with-E-Cigarettes-241416261.html

Agents at San Diego’s Drug Enforcement Administration office are becoming increasingly concerned with anything having to do with hash oil, a marijuana byproduct. This now includes electronic cigarettes.
E-cigarettes are designed as an alternative to traditional cigarettes. They are battery-powered and filled with liquids which are turned to vapor, but some people are using them to try and get high.
“Because of the way these mechanisms work, the odor is highly diminished. So if a parent thinks because they don’t smell it on their kid, that doesn’t necessarily mean their kids aren’t using,” said Gary Hill, Assistant Special Agent In Charge with the San Diego DEA office.
Law enforcement agents aren’t the only ones concerned.


Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...ith-E-Cigarettes-241416261.html#ixzz2r9gWvjvg
 

jump /injack

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http://www.orovillemr.com/news/ci_24990472/butte-county-leads-state-marijuana-refining-process

Butte County leads the state in marijuana refining process
By ALMENDRA CARPIZO-Staff Writer
POSTED: * 01/24/2014 09:14:56 PM PST




A Butte County sheriffs representative explains the rise in incidents involving butane honey oil...

In the early morning of Jan. 15, law enforcement responded to an explosion at a residence on Cold Creek Lane in Oroville. It was the fourth explosion caused by butane honey oil in recent weeks in Butte County, according to authorities.
Butane honey oil labs are becoming a frequent and undesirable discovery for the members of the Butte County Sheriff's Office's Special Enforcement Unit.
The practice of refining marijuana into a honey-like consistency has been going on for more than 20 years, but it has recently become popular, SEU detective Doug Patterson said.
"This has just exploded," he said.
The substance's recent rise in popularity can be attributed to several things; among them is the increase in personal use, Patterson said. Butane honey oil is 60 percent to 80 percent pure tetrahydricannabinol (THC), the active chemical in marijuana. The most potent marijuana plants are in the high 20 to low 30 percents, he added.
A single dose of honey oil — or earwax as it's also called — is a tenth of a gram, about the size of a cotton swab, and the high can last for hours.
A gram of honey oil, which is about the size of a sugar packet, goes for about $50 around this area, Patterson said.
Possessing a small amount of honey oil is not illegal for people with Proposition 215 recommendations. However, the manufacturing of the substance carries the same penalties as making methamphetamine.
For the past few years, Butte County has been leading the state in the seizure of butane honey oil labs.
There have been 14 labs seized since July 2013, Patterson said.
Patterson credits the county's standing in part to the lack of knowledge of the process by other law enforcement agencies.
Members on the SEU are trained to look for items such as glass dishes, extraction tubes and other indicia when they serve a search warrant.
So many law enforcement agencies that go inside a home don't know about honey oil, he said. SEU has been teaching surrounding agencies about the labs and the process. People in the community may also lack awareness.
SEU found one of the largest labs in the county's history in Magalia on Jan. 7 after the owner of the property allegedly told authorities he thought people were making crack cocaine.
Detectives obtained a search warrant for the residence, which was unoccupied, and reportedly found 25 glass collection dishes, 52 extraction tubes, 1,152 empty 300 ml butane cans, 672 full butane cans, two wooden extraction workstations capable of extracting honey oil from six tubes at the same time, 4.53 pounds of finished butane honey oil and 185.73 pounds of marijuana, according to SEU.
The case is still ongoing and there have been no arrests, but there's a possible suspect, Patterson said.
The reason why the production of butane honey oil carries such a hefty penalty is because of how dangerous it is to make it.
Unlike a meth lab, there are no dangerous chemicals involved, but it's explosive in nature and the flammability is the danger, Patterson explained.
During the Jan. 15 explosion, a small piece of flesh was found, but no one was inside the residence.
There's also the danger of innocent people who may live next door to someone making the substance.
"It (lab) can be in the city of Chico or all the way up to your foothills; we find it everywhere," Patterson said.
In the summer of 2013, the Chico Fire Department responded to a fire at a travel trailer in north Chico that was caused because of the manufacturing of butane honey oil, Chico Fire Inspector Rick Doane said. There were no injuries, but it caused extensive damage.
There was also a home that was destroyed on Warner Street in 2012 after three people attempted to make the substance.
The reason for its volatile nature comes from the butane used to extract the THC, Patterson said.
People take marijuana "shake" — trimmings and leaves — put it inside an extraction tube, and insert the butane can's tip into the tube and release all the liquid butane, which is used to fill lighters. The butane will extract the THC and release the honey-like substance into glass dishes.
The flashpoint — the minimum temperature it takes to ignite butane — is 76 degrees, Patterson said. Almost anything will ignite it.
When the honey oil is on a dish, it's violently boiling, but there's no heat source at all, he said. The boiling point, 31.3 degrees, is what they're waiting for, but it's the most dangerous part because all the fumes being emitted might find an ignition source.
"Literally as simple as flipping on a light switch — that little spark will ignite the fumes that accumulated in the room," he said.
It's the same thing as taking a propane tank and letting the gas fill up a house, Doane said. Butane doesn't need to be near a flame to ignite. If the vapors are just right, even a static spark from clothing can ignite it.
Because butane is lighter than air, it starts building up on the ceiling, Patterson said. People have said they ventilated to avoid an explosion, but there's a rush and a flash fire throughout their entire house.
Numerous people have been sent to the UC Davis burn center in Sacramento as a result of a butane fire or explosion, but an immediate number was not available.
Labs pose a danger to the community, firefighters, responders and law enforcement members, the officials said.
"It looks like it's safe, but it's not safe," Doane said. "Something that seems easy to do can really alter some lives. It's not an innocent act. It's extremely dangerous."
People who cause a fire because of the manufacturing of honey oil can face felony charges of recklessly causing a fire, he said.
Manufacturing for personal use carries the same charge as if someone is found making commercial quantities, Patterson said.
 
I think different, but He knows better.

Research is your friend.

Answer No, air has a density of 1.225 g/l @ 15°C. and Standard Atmospheric Pressure while butane is 2.52 g/l. Butane is more than twice as heavy as air!


Really makes me want to trust what he knows.
 

jump /injack

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http://www.azfamily.com/news/Man-fl...side-SUV-haz-mat-team-on-scene-242742371.html



TEMPE, Ariz. -- Police are searching for a man who fled after something inside his vehicle exploded outside a QT store.
A clerk at the store, which is located near Priest Drive just north of the U.S. 60, said it happened shortly before 10 p.m. Wednesday. According to police, QT*employees and people who were at the store tried to put out the fire.
Investigators said the driver left the QT parking lot and then pulled into a nearby* apartment complex. He then fled, leaving the SUV behind. Police say he is still on the loose.
There were initial reports that the vehicle, a maroon SUV, might have been a rolling meth lab, but Tempe Police Department spokeswoman Molly Enright later said "… officers have determined there is no indication that this incident involved methamphetamine or a meth lab."
The department Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) unit went over the SUV to try and determine what exploded and make sure there was no further danger. Officers evacuated some residents as a precaution until the EOD cleared the vehicle.
A hazardous-materials team was called to the scene to search the vehicle. Police, however, said there was no threat to area residents.
Video from the apartment complex showed the maroon SUV at the center of the investigation, its rear window apparently blown out and items from inside stacked on the ground. Officers bagged evidence taken from the vehicle, which was later towed away.
While no meth was found, police confirmed that the incident was drug related. They believe the drugs the suspect was handling sparked the blast and fire in the SUV.
"It looks like the suspect may have been trying to extract hash oil from marijuana using some sort of* torch ...," Tempe police Lt. Scott Smith said. "It's highly likely that the fumes collected within the interior of that car that actually ignited inside the vehicle at the gas station."
No injuries were reported.
Hash oil is a concentrated resin of cannabis that has a high THC content, making it extremely strong -- a good deal more potent than regular marijuana. Hash oil can be smoked or vaporized, as well as taken orally or applied topically.
Because hash oil is made by a process called solvent extraction, there is an inherent danger of explosion or fire.
The suspect is described as a white man in his 20s with a medium build and straggly long hair. He was last seen running south on Priest Drive. Investigators believe he might have been living in his vehicle.

GW says the fireball from a butane explosion is over 3000 degree's, can you imagine being in a closed vehicle when that shit goes off, just the concussion would blow all the snot out of your nose and then the fireball that can melt steel or your eyeballs, what can these AH's be thinking. Last seen running down Priest Drive with his hair on fire..
 

Thomas Paine

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There is nothing ITAL about BHO

There is nothing ITAL about BHO

"Rasta don't need your BHO
Rasta don't need no pills
All Rasta need is good ganja weed
& Love to get I fill"
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Elmer Bud

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I think different, but He knows better.

G`day Jump

You are right .
It will collect at ground level . Being heavier than air .

I have seen you counsel fools who made BHO indoors . And even after your warning . Saw them try to explain that their method was safe .

Some people can`t be told ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

Gray Wolf

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Research is your friend.

Answer No, air has a density of 1.225 g/l @ 15°C. and Standard Atmospheric Pressure while butane is 2.52 g/l. Butane is more than twice as heavy as air!


Really makes me want to trust what he knows.

What ST said.
 

jump /injack

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/Vancouver-police-fear-more-hash-related-explosions-243018841.html

VANCOUVER, Wash. – Butane hash oil is fast becoming the drug of choice for marijuana users in the Northwest, police say.
The oil, also known as Butane Honey Oil or BHO, is made by stripping away THC - the chemical in marijuana that gets you high - from the marijuana plant.
Users then smoke the concentrated THC, which usually has an oil or wax-like texture.
Officer Mike Cooke, commander of the Clark-Vancouver Regional Drug Task Force, says the drug is up to five times as potent as smoking pot.
He’s worried more pot smokers in Washington are using hash oil.
“It’s becoming especially popular with marijuana users, especially the under-30 crowd,” Cooke said. “Butane Honey Oil is the crack cocaine of marijuana.”
How dangerous you feel smoking BHO is likely depends on how dangerous you find marijuana in general, but few would argue making BHO is not hazardous.
Making the drug involves using a chemical solvent (often butane) that gets mixed with the extracted THC.
The solvent then needs to be burned away, often with a blowtorch or kitchen stove.
The process has led to several explosions in the Northwest and around the country.
Cooke is worried there will be more.
“Our concern of course is for not only the person doing the process, but innocent people that might be around them, innocent children that might be in the home,” Cooke said.
Thousands of amateurs
Searching YouTube for BHO with any of its popular street names – butter, dabbing, wax – reveals thousands of how-to videos, including step-by-step guides taking you from plant to oil.
Cooke says that, along with the legalization of marijuana in Washington, makes it too easy for kids to try their hand at cooking BHO.
“The butane hash oil process has become so normalized, you can now buy the equipment to do this process in retail stores in Clark County,” Cooke said.
Cooke adds that one small slip-up is all it takes for would-be BHO makers to cause an explosion.
“(An explosion) bad enough to cause very severe injuries,” Cooke said. “In a contained environment with the concussion of the explosion this latest one actually moved walls in the house and created a lot of damage and a lot of injury.”
Cooke is referring to a Jan. 12 explosion in a Vancouver residence where police located evidence of possible drug manufacturing, including several cans of butane.
KATU has previously reported on explosions in Forest Grove, near Caitlin Gable and north of Seattle that police believe are linked to people trying to make hash oil.


"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."


Burns of a 2nd and 3rd Degree type associated with Butane type explosions below:

http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841

Gray Wolf's safety tips below.


http://skunkpharmresearch.com/butane-safety/
 
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i knew this one guy named "burnt dan"......well he lloked just like his name.....ask anyone on Hasting street in Vancouver canada......guess how he got burnt.....
 

jump /injack

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Thought I'd follow up on some of the stories and see how many died of their burn injuries. Many more here: http://www.google.com/search?client...killed+in+butane+explosions&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Articles about Butane - Los Angeles Times
articles.latimes.com › Collections‎

A local industrialist was killed by the explosion of a common butane lighter ... noting last year's natural gas pipeline explosion that killed eight people in San*...

Matt Rize - What is BHO and is it safe? - Medical Marijuana
medicalmarijuana.com/experts/expert/title.cfm?artID=70‎

Butane solvent extract is safe to consume and potentially deadly to make. ... People are dying, others are being severely burnt, apartments are ignited, motels are ... Gilroy police said the explosion that killed Johns resulted from the ignition of a*...

1. Man Dies After Butane Honey Oil Lab Explosion in Puna a Few ...
damontucker.com/.../man-dies-after-butane-honey-oil-lab-explosion-in-...‎
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Jan 2, 2014 - The 30-year-old Keaʻau man injured in the butane honey oil lab explosion, passed away at Straub Medical Center on Oahu today after being*...

◦ Teen couple severely burned after attempt to soak their marijuana ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Teen-couple-severely-burned-attemp...‎

◦ Dec 18, 2013 - 'Pervert' who once shot himself in the face is arrested after torching his own .... According to the New York Daily News, the explosion rocked the ... 'We could see the flames and hear people yelling for help,' ... It is made using Butane gas that is 'flushed' over ground pot and then evaporates, leaving the wax

1. 'His skin was falling off': Three people hospitalized after butane gas ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../His-skin-falling-Three-people-hospit...‎
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Jan 31, 2013 - A powerful explosion on Wednesday ripped through a hotel near ... Owner of Brazilian nightclub where 235 people died in horrific fire tries to*...


◦ Man dies after being hospitalized in butane honey oil blast - Hawaii ...
www.staradvertiser.com › News › Breaking‎

◦ Jan 3, 2014 - Man dies after being hospitalized in butane honey oil blast ... accounts of people blowing up their houses, kitchens, bathrooms doing Butane*...



Brooklyn teens burned in marijuana lab explosion charged: police ...
www.nydailynews.com/.../brooklyn-teens-burn...‎

Dec 18, 2013 - Brooklyn teens burned in marijuana lab explosion charged: police ... nearly killed themselves early Tuesday trying to make “earwax” in the garage of the Marine Park home where Gambale lives, ... The butane ignited when one lit a cigarette. .... The stars of the 'X-Men' film franchise will show off their mutant.
 

jump /injack

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http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-butane-hash-20140206,0,3318148,full.story#axzz2sbRvt07o


The "chef" hunkered over a batch of hash oil he was making in a kitchen in Redondo Beach, using a common but extremely dangerous method known as "open blasting."
The 26-year-old meticulously stirred and heated the marijuana extract into the highest clarity, slowly producing "butane honey oil" that would be as clear and pure as amber.
This potent type of hash, also called "wax," has taken off in the marijuana market with the rise of electronic cigarettes and other vaporizing devices. Dabs of it can be vaporized and inhaled without the smoke and pungent odor of weed, an act called "dabbing." And they bring on a soaring high even among longtime cannabis smokers who have a strong tolerance for the drug.

PHOTOS: Marijuana law in 2014
But the butane used to extract the essential oil of the marijuana plant frequently blows up in the faces of the people making the wax.
In the last 14 months, at least 17 cooks and bystanders have landed in Southern California burn centers with catastrophic injuries, a toll far worse than from meth lab explosions. In Northern California, the UC Davis Health System's burn unit treated 27 victims last year with similar injuries, and six have come in during the last two weeks. Officials suspect that the overall numbers are much higher because victims don't disclose the illicit cause of their injuries.
The Redondo chef, who asked to withhold his name because making this type of hash is a felony, started by packing a glass pipe with discarded marijuana trimmings. He put vinyl mesh over one end and sprayed a high-pressure canister of liquid butane in the other end. The butane — better known as lighter fluid — bonded with the resin glands in the marijuana, and the solution poured into a Pyrex baking dish placed in a larger dish of nearly boiling water.
He stirred and heated it for hours, while butane slowly evaporated out of the solution to leave the purified, nonexplosive wax. All that time, the butane gas was spilling into the air.
"When butane is expelled into a room, it is odorless and colorless," said Ashley Rosen, a Los Angeles County deputy district attorney in the major narcotics division. "It builds up in the room until it's basically a bomb."
Rosen first heard of a butane hash explosion in January 2013, and since then has prosecuted 26 people under a law originally designed to stop PCP and meth manufacturing.

Go to the URL above for more of this story in the Los Angeles Times.
 
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