Best setup for 10k watt flower

[swabler]

Hows it going everyone, i have a few questions for the experts out there.

-Im legally allowed to handle 60 plants so thats the one factor that cannot be changed.

Ideally i want to have 1 veg room with 2 flip flop harvest rooms(1 going while other is off then switch every 12 hours). 20 clones come into the veg room every 4-5 weeks(just buying clones from a trustworthy source) then 20 into one of the harvest rooms while the other harvest room is having 20 pulled out. SO ill be pulling 20 plants per 4-5 weeks.

The veg room will have 2k watts plus 3 t5's to sustain growth for those 20 plants. Each flower room will have 5k watts( 4 plants per light). Ill have a 14000-16000 btu A/C unit per flower room. veg room no A/C,,
Ill have a co2 tank in each of the flower rooms. Using soil and most likely Advanced nutrients for mediums and nutes.

Now my goal is 4-5 ounces per plant So 16 ounces- 20 ounces per light.
-what size pots will i need for a 4-5 ounce plant?
-what do you see that could be changed or added to make things run better or get a better yield?
-Is the a/c strong enough per flower room?
-would you add anything to the veg room?
-will the setup i have be able to yield what I'm asking for?
- in the future I'm not opposed to running more light maybe 7k per flower (same amount of plants) but i don't think I want to until i can get things dial in first with the setup i have now.

Thank you for any help my fellow connesiures

 

[swabler]

anyone?

 

[otis33]

flipping two 5k rooms is a good idea, and what I would do as well. however, I would hang the bulbs vertically in an x pattern and do 4 plants(trees) per 5k room.

 

[That Ush]

Ya if your only doing 4 plants per light i suggest vert trees.
Other then that i would first do run with maybe less wattage and more plants per light.
You want to average at least a g per watt.. so your counting on 4 plants under 1 light to hit 1000 grams.

By all means go big or go home. Do what ever interest you.
Id say run the 60 plants, less lights - dial your shit in forreals.
Get a g per watt or more.

Only reason i say this is that i see people who have done 1 or 2 grows and think they are the shit. Go big 50+ plants and shit ends up wack.

Gl buddy best of luck

 

[Femora]

Ya, Id listen to otis33.

Depending on your skill with hydro.. Or if youre not up for it; go coco.

Make some trees and lower the plantcount.

With your wanted yield... err.. Trees is the easiest way to go I'd figure. And youll prevail those numbers quite fast.

It makes no sense (to me) why you want to max out the plantcount.
Do you have any reason to force it up to 60, eh?
I dunno whats a suitable potsize, find some diarys that match the setting you decide to go at.
-what do you see that could be changed or added to make things run better or get a better yield? See above
-Is the a/c strong enough per flower room? No clue
-would you add anything to the veg room? Hard to say anything.. Depends so much on what you decide to choose.
-will the setup i have be able to yield what I'm asking for? Probably. If you dont mess up really really bad.
- in the future I'm not opposed to running more light maybe 7k per flower (same amount of plants) but i don't think I want to until i can get things dial in first with the setup i have now. Easy to do in a tree-grow. -hint hint-



Best of luck! Keep us updated on your progress!

 

[swabler]

Thanks for the replays all,, going the with your idea, how long would you preferably veg them for? because if i cut the plant count all the way down to 4 then i could deffinetly veg for 8 weeks and still manage to pull every month... interesting..

Strain wise, are all strains capable of that typeof yield? that'd be asking for 20 ounces per plant lol that sounds insane to me.

 

[Femora]

You're welcome!

Here is a few links that you might find useful when deciding how to set up your space..
Read em throu, search for yourself, and then take the most useful parts of each thread and assamble your rooms.


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=269415

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=256089 -> Here is a post from that thread.. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5716090&postcount=192


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=250247


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=265586


And try out the search-function. I bet youll find it useful in your hunt for infor..

Best of luck!

 

[otis33]

I am in the middle of an 18 tree grow, and it's been a lot of work. I over vegged for the strain and now have a mess on my hands. it's Remote grow and I've been spending way more time over there than I initially anticipated trying to keep the canopy managed. inretrospect, I wish I would have done less plants. if this is your first grow I to would suggest maybe one or two lights and less plants as suggested above.

 

[SirStynkalot]

Trees would be the way to go for you.

So you know though, you're going to run into heat problems. a 12-15k btu ac unit isn't going to be able to handle 5kw in lighting. If you check out the air conditioning sticky in this forum you'll get a better idea of what you need, but it should be about 2-2.5k tons of AC (25-35,000 BTUs).

Good luck!

 

[SirStynkalot]

Shoot, I missed that you were a beginner.

I promise, if you start growing with 10,000 watts in flower and 3k in veg before you know what you're doing, you'll end up with nothing but debt. If you have someone experienced to come hold your hand that's a different story as your results will reflect your buddy's skill level and not your own, but I promise you'll have horrible results if you're trying to run something like that alone on your first grow.

as far as the pot size, that really depends. A lot. I've seen photos of 9 ounce plants in 1 gallon pots and I knew one guy back in the day that used 50 gallon rubbermaid tubs and got like 2 ounces out of each (idiot lit his whole grow with incandescents). Pot size is more a function of how you grow, but for trees like you're thinking and assuming you're going to be handwatering, you'll probably want their final homes to be 5-7 gallon pots.

As far as stuff I'd add, I'd say a drip or blumat system should be highest on the list. Watering that large of grows by hand is highly impractical and there's a lot more room for error and mistakes if it's automated. Just gotta do your homework and make sure you set it up right the first time.

 

[swabler]

^^ i have expirence under my belt with about 3 runs I've done personally and a partner who knows his shit too. I already have all the equipment besides the A/C units and buckets. Which between those 2 items is probably like 10% of total cost for the setup so its not like I'm throwing away 25k lol

I apprecaite everyones answers. I think 4 plants per light was a nice number just because all i have to do is pull a qp. but if i go do
wn to 1-2 plants per light I'm scared of having to pull 10-20 ounces off of each plant