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best method of growing for 1gpw?
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.8/watt..... whats your setup?
From all the knowledge and experience Ive gained amigo.......... GPW is easy peasy japanesey....... a buddy of mine still rubs the little over 3gpw off a 600 in my face all the time!!!!..... So check it, first, its going to have to be dro, or aero..... because you can do it in soil, but its much more of a biatch and takes longer....... you need to make sure your media is providing enough room for a gpw (freedom bucket) and assuming all your other shit is on point, like you have at least 800-1000 ppm of co2 floating around your room, you know the strain fairly well and your ventilation is taken care of....... then we move on to the light maximization........ you need to figure out, how you want to pull a GPW........ can be done one of a few ways...... SCROG, SOG, LST, SUPerCropping..... if you scrog, make sure you fill the entire screen before flipping....... in SOG, make sure you have enough plants to make the grade...... and LST/Supercropping is just a matter of knowing how you want your plant to look when its flowering...... your bucket or container has to be of a size that will hold plants with a gpw's root systems, so the bigger the better and guano and air stones in the rez, make a HUGE diff...... and after that its just a matter of Dialing your strain.... seeing what it needs and when it needs it! The whole thing is most people dont have the patience..... they want to pull that GPW on a SOG...... its totally possible but its really hard, especially when your doing it with multiple strains, you need to know exactly what those ladies want, when they want it, and you gotta give it to em with no delay or stressing.... the less stress the higher the yield...... but I think a better bet is to do a few trained plants under a SCrog..... too few will make it harder to exact the higher yields, and too many will diminsh light dist and yields per plant....... fill that screen and flower........ your bud size and yield is relative to your marstem....... how big that is will determine within a ratio, how big your apical or main cola is........ get your maristem as big as your wrist and I highly doubt you will get less that 1gpw! Hope this helps!
Peace Love Positivity
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From all the knowledge and experience Ive gained amigo.......... GPW is easy peasy japanesey....... a buddy of mine still rubs the little over 3gpw off a 600 in my face all the time!!!!..... So check it, first, its going to have to be dro, or aero..... because you can do it in soil, but its much more of a biatch and takes longer....... you need to make sure your media is providing enough room for a gpw (freedom bucket) and assuming all your other shit is on point, like you have at least 800-1000 ppm of co2 floating around your room, you know the strain fairly well and your ventilation is taken care of....... then we move on to the light maximization........ you need to figure out, how you want to pull a GPW........ can be done one of a few ways...... SCROG, SOG, LST, SUPerCropping..... if you scrog, make sure you fill the entire screen before flipping....... in SOG, make sure you have enough plants to make the grade...... and LST/Supercropping is just a matter of knowing how you want your plant to look when its flowering...... your bucket or container has to be of a size that will hold plants with a gpw's root systems, so the bigger the better and guano and air stones in the rez, make a HUGE diff...... and after that its just a matter of Dialing your strain.... seeing what it needs and when it needs it! The whole thing is most people dont have the patience..... they want to pull that GPW on a SOG...... its totally possible but its really hard, especially when your doing it with multiple strains, you need to know exactly what those ladies want, when they want it, and you gotta give it to em with no delay or stressing.... the less stress the higher the yield...... but I think a better bet is to do a few trained plants under a SCrog..... too few will make it harder to exact the higher yields, and too many will diminsh light dist and yields per plant....... fill that screen and flower........ your bud size and yield is relative to your marstem....... how big that is will determine within a ratio, how big your apical or main cola is........ get your maristem as big as your wrist and I highly doubt you will get less that 1gpw! Hope this helps!
Peace Love Positivity
-=T
don't put the cart in front of the horse...
don't put the cart in front of the horse...
prioritize your goals...
>no bugs.
>no hermies.
>odor control working?
>no seeds...unless you want some...
>no fire/flood...
>finish the grow.
become efficient and clean, worry about getting a gram per watt later.
what strain(s) will you be growing?
...or, follow Tarbosh's instructions!
best of luck!
don't put the cart in front of the horse...
prioritize your goals...
>no bugs.
>no hermies.
>odor control working?
>no seeds...unless you want some...
>no fire/flood...
>finish the grow.
become efficient and clean, worry about getting a gram per watt later.
what strain(s) will you be growing?
...or, follow Tarbosh's instructions!
best of luck!
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Can you imagine harvesting 4 pounds off a single 600, lol. Next time your friend throws that in your face I would make sure he knew I didnt believe it. I have been growing for quite a few years and I have only seen a few grows with lights less then 1000 watts that went a gpw dry. I think most experienced growers on here would admit to that. If I could be guaranteed .75 grams per watt dry I would be happier then hell.....
Babbabud said:
you never will...... haha, hes a pro that does it for a living........ he stays far away from the internet and has actually since disappeared into thin air as he tends to do whenever he feels like life is too risky........ but know its possible and I have met the man who has done it!
I think people that are pulling over a gpw constantly, see ICmag as much more of a liability than a resource.......
but he straight up writes programs for his strains! it takes him up to 2 years per strain and he comes up with programs that run his enviornment and rezs off of..... but bah, all of you who cant do it will think blasphemy........all I am here to do is tell you it can be done!!!!!
His 3gpwers are special projects that he puts his all into........ on average he pulls around 1.5-2........... for people like that its just not efficient to take that risk and pull any less....... thats just the way it is!
MasterBudGrower
Member
I dont think so
perfect_potleaf
New member
i would definately do a sea of green if i was shooting for a gram/watt. ive never done a sog so dont take my word on any of this. usually, on these forums i see people doing a sog get round-a-bout an oz per flowered clone. so lets say that in a sog, you do get 1 oz per plant, that would mean you'd need appoximately 16 (15.789473684210526315789473684211 to be precise 
) 1 oz plants to reach your goal of 1g/w with a 450 watt hps. if you packed them in at 4 per square foot that would mean you'd need 4 square feet of growing space. if i were to try this i would go with a hydro system like an ebb&flow table. you might not get a g/w your first try but i think this would be the best road to follow and once you got everything dialed with teh right strain you'd end up over you mark.
) 1 oz plants to reach your goal of 1g/w with a 450 watt hps. if you packed them in at 4 per square foot that would mean you'd need 4 square feet of growing space. if i were to try this i would go with a hydro system like an ebb&flow table. you might not get a g/w your first try but i think this would be the best road to follow and once you got everything dialed with teh right strain you'd end up over you mark.
Hummmm…………that’s an interesting thought you have there even if it’s not true ~ I have NEVER done a grow under a GPW and I must say that I have never considered IC as an liability ~ as for those how say they do and never put there money were there mouth is ……..well you know the rest of that, don’t you.
…………………….and again, all of my grows are rain from a self-made program that I have written just for the Bio-Buckets, that IF all other conditions are right!! You will get well over GPW every time!!
Hay bro, 3pgw is not all that!! And I have done it a many of times!! Lets take my Bio-Buckets for example; I grow with 36 Recirculating DWC Bio-Buckets, I use 3700watts………lets see, that’s 3700 grams!! Divided by 27 = 137.037 and divided this by 16 = 8.5 pounds, this is what you would get every time if you only got 1gpw ~ but I mostly get way over this and as for your friend, if I had to run and hid in a fox whole just to do my growing man that would not be happening.
Wacky Tobacky
Active member
hell ya bigtoke u tell him.
Dr.Feelgood
Member
Tarbosh.......eh...nevermind...
The few commercial folks I know of through friends are too afraid to go on the computer and do anything for fear of being watched. It's a shame because they could teach us alot otherwise, and learn alot from sites like this.
One thing no one mentioned yet is the light/space ratio: watts per square foot. over 50 wpsf and good reflective material goes a very long way toward helping maximize the grow. Air cooling the light to get the plants closer and using a good reflector (not a budget one) help also. Nutrition, scheduling, method (hydro), environment/temp all play thier essential role but without maximizing the light your efforts are futile (as I know from experience).
I think he was referring to one person......... but I could be wrong....... I can understand that....... if your running 60,000watts......... jeez, thats like asking to get bagged posting on ICmag, especially if your contributional threads are like........ how to tax electricity before it hits the box......... thats just the way some people are......... but yet I guess I can see how someone might risk life imprisonment to post on ICmag.......... 3700 isnt 60,000! Those people are constantly pulling at least around 2 gpw or else its just not worth it!
But Im not trying to hate..........shit big toke you pull around 3 gpw out of Bio-buckets? I havent read the thread yet, but I can only imagine they are like the Krusty Freedom buckets....... I hear dro is the only way to get your marstem huge so your colas are super huge! Have you pulled 4 gpw yet?
But Im not trying to hate..........shit big toke you pull around 3 gpw out of Bio-buckets? I havent read the thread yet, but I can only imagine they are like the Krusty Freedom buckets....... I hear dro is the only way to get your marstem huge so your colas are super huge! Have you pulled 4 gpw yet?
