been a while but ur boy needs some help...

[YwouldntI]

wattup fam have some leaves that are turnin on me i think its a ph issue as i have been a lillazy about checkin it..doh...thought i'd let the pros take a look though and be sure...
my question is,is it cool to flush them out in flower,if they aint ready yet to be chopped.some have 30 days some have 6 weeks to go.its notcrazy bad yet but i dont want it to get there either...whats the best way to fix this fam?
im under 5000 watts 5 gallon buckets,organic,i use ff nutes,and any other questions feel free to ask... heres the damage i see.




















heres the grow...












thankyou in advance for the help guys.peace -Y-

 

[ZeusOGrefugee]

whats up Y...those honestly look like they are just deprived of light...are they only on the bottom of the plants?? I wouldnt worry too much bro, give em plain pH'd water for a feeding, then continue with the nutes...they should be fine...or maybe try a Micronute, like Microblast or even Liquid Karma could help...Peace brother

- Z

 

[YwouldntI]

wattup zeus,thanks for the suggestion yo but they aint starvin for light some of its happenin at the upper parts of the plants.no plant is covered with damage its scattered here and there.and you know the pull i aint likin comin next?i think it mighta went through the same thing but right about the time when the leaves were suppose to start changin any ways so i didnt relly pay it no mind.thanks bro shit i need all the help i can get right about now.peace brotha-Y-

 

[headiez247]

Y-

I just found a real nice site with good pics and I was able to confirm my guess that my problem is probably ph related.

Check out all the pics- http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/

While I agree that tackling shit when it starts is key, and we like to have things perfect as usual, it should be said that overall both our shit is goin just fine, we just worry cuz we so talented and don't like seeing anything but green haha.

Def check that site out tho... looking at the pics I'm thinking yours might be PH related as well. Not gonna front, I haven't even been checking mine, gonna start tmrw tho.

 

[imnotcrazy]

Y: I'd stick w/ saying it's a PH issue. I see several diff micro/macro deficiencies: MG, P and K. Now IDK if they're all on the same plant, is each pic a diff plant?

 

[YwouldntI]

headies,bro i swear i just saved that site a lil bit ago DBM posted the link right? hehehe we been huntin huh bro!!! thanx for the info though yo.yeah me too yo i been lazy,i just ot done callibratin my pen and i'll begin a flush tomorrow with p'd water...peace yo

INC-yeah im hip yo after checkin alotta other threads i know its with the ph yo,the pics are from diferent plants at different stages.like i said above im gonna start a two day flush tomorrow with some ph'd water and then give them a few days and start back at 1/2 nutes and work it back up gradualy from there as they get happy again...sound like a winner bro?ur advice is appreciated my man.what should i flush with?ph at around 5.5-6.2 or so?i have no idea,i always usualy ph to about 5.8 when i DO check it when i water and feed.i just been F.U.C.K.I.N. lazy lately and slippin on it.peace -Y-

 

[imnotcrazy]

yeah 5.8-6.0 is good for soilless higher for soil

 

[YwouldntI]

yeah im siless thanks for the help man...i love this place yo,where else can ya go and ask a question of this nature?and on top of that get answered and a plan in order to fix it in less then a few hrs.
IC mag kicks ace all up and down the street!!!!
thanks for the help again fellaz.im about to look around in here and see can i help somebody and return the lookout. peace -Y-

 

[Core]

if you realy want some help fill this in my friend.....it would be needed to assert your situation....

How long has this problem been going on?
What STRAIN are you growing?
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)
What is the age of your plants?
How Tall are the plants?
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
How often are you watering?
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
What size bulb are you using?
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
Are plant's infected with pest's?



she looks a bit deprived....to me that is....
but you also have to check out what ph your medium has....very important to go further and to exclude a ph issue......
don't go measure runoff.....take some distilled water in a cup....take a bit of medium...(same amount)...dig a little deeper...don't use topsoil/coco .....stir and let it sit for 5 minutes.....be shure the ph meter is calibrated and then measure the slurry......this way you got the most accurate ph you can get....

 

[YwouldntI]

How long has this problem been going on? a week or so
What STRAIN are you growing? bluebery,bubblebery,black domuna sensi star is whats in there now
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) clone
What is the age of your plants? 2-4 weeks into 12/12 cycles of perpetual
How Tall are the plants? 5 feet
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) perpetual
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)1 per pot 5 gallon buckets
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)soiless ,baccto,perlite 70/30 and guano is in these mixes i only recently started lime and ewc but not on the ones in question.
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often?ff nutes 3 tbls. of bloom ,1tsp.cal mag 1/2 and beast bloom and cha ching as directed 1/2 tsp per gallon depending on how far along they are *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?-no idea
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? i'll check tonight at lights on
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?-pen been lazy though and havnt checked it
How often are you watering? when needed-- lift test
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? two days ago 1 maybe 2 a week water,water feed water water feed....
What size bulb are you using? 5 1000 watters
What is the distance to the canopy? 18 inches or so
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) 50%
What is the canopy temperature? 78-80
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)65-70
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) i have fans and filters and oscilatin fans 8 inch fan onthe filter
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? oscilating its not wind whupped
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? neither i know when they need water
Is your water HARD or SOFT? idk what that exactly means so no answer
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? tap
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? not for like a week or more super cropped
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? no
Are plant's infected with pest's? no

hope this helps you help me.peace -Y-

 

[stihgnobevoli]

nute burn and ph flux. use plain water for a while, and check the ph.

 

[Core]

so where's that ph at.....???
i to see a ph flux on the leaves....
alos i found the fox farm feedscedule.....seems you only need 2 tsp no??


http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf

 

[headiez247]

Y-

what did u get for PH? My soil tested fine but the tap water I'm using is like 7.6, so I'm gonna do the flush with some PH adjusted water two days like you.

 

[YwouldntI]

my tap water is way high,its like 9.0
im on my way to put the work in now.imma test the ph of the soil and if its hight begin the flush.its gonna take forever to flush them for real...is flora clean a option? i have some of that,if i can use it i will???
i think a good flush will o the trick though honestly.peace -Y-

edit:core it seems ur right too but my jug says 4 thats why i was workin them up to 4 before flush,this the first time i saw anything like this happen though.

 

[headiez247]

ya man, been there. last batch was 5 gal containers and we flushed last 10 days or so.. labor times.

 

[YwouldntI]

o.k fam i started the flush tonight ,couldnt find me gh soil ph test kit that i got with the ph up and down...imma have to find that.,so i just went ahead and flushed them with plain water that i ph'd with my pen at between 5.8 and 6.2 i used 130 gallons of water on 40 plants in 5 gallon buckets a little over 3 gallons per pot...the room was deep with water DEEP.i shop vac'd up the room ,and used a sub-pump into a garbage can,three garbage cans and quite a few times i filled the shop-vac and mptied it.i musta got atleast 70 or so gallons back up off the floor.the water was yellow as hell,i shoulda took a pic.so,should i do it again tomorrow or ya think the 130 gallons will be enough?incase ur wonderin how i know it was 130 gallons...i have a rubbermade garbage can that i marked up when i got it and a piece of pvc i use to stir the nutes in there...i kept fillin five gallon buckets and dumpin them in,markin the can and the pvc as i went...5-10-15-20...and so on so i just filled it and kept fillin it keeping track along the way.i used 65 gallons per 20 plants.
so should i do it again tomorrow?
it almost felt like peace had come over the land when i looked back in the room when i was walkin out of there,LOL, that might have been because the floor was SPOTLESS from all the water HAHAHAHA thanks for the help fam-Y-

 

[VenturaHwy]

You know if you had each pot with a tub under it to catch the water you wouldn't create a flood - and if you flushed every time you watered you would never have to do a special flush. . . your buds look great, I would say it was an old problem you are trying to fix.

 

[YwouldntI]

venture,,,yeah thanx anyways,but none of what you said makes any sense to me at all.first of all i have trays under my plants,they wasnt gonna hold all the water though from a flush,do you know what a flush is?
secondly,why would i want trays to catch the nasty flush water?then the plants would just suck it back up through the bottom and defete the purpose !!!
third,why would i flush evertime i feed?if thats the case...why feed at all?just to waste my nutes and money?
yeah thanx anyways dawg but i aint as noob as you might think,just ran into a problem is all.thanks yo but my buds dont look great,they look like shit,they usualy look great but right now they look anorexic compared to my usual
you shouldnt be givin out bad advice yo.what if i didnt know no better,i might actualy listen to that b.s..
peace anyways yo.-Y-

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i think what he means to say is that you should have like 10-20% runoff water when you water your plants, that way any salt built up in the bottom of the pot is washed away and you dont get a buildup as the pots dry out. the trays are to catch the runoff so it doesnt go on the floor. you empty the runoff water after you water. you dont leave it for the plants to reuptake. well you could if you wanted.

 

[YwouldntI]

o.k i hear ya stihgn,but that wasnt an option this far along in the issue,i had todo a big flush...i do keep trays under theplants and that is how i water,BUT i f***ed up,and let the ph get way outta hand and as my man Core pointed out to me i think i may have been givin them too much big bloom,my 5 gallon jug says 4 tbsp. per gallon,and the schedule says 2 tbsp....idk if its a misprint on my jug or what,but thats where i went wrong too.see i needed to major flush...i start at half nutes and work my way up,thats why the older plants were the ones most effected....thanx.peace -Y-