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Aint It Fresh

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Another question to anyone who knows...

I just transplanted into supersoil and the leaf yellowing is still persistent as I mentioned above, but i was wondering if feeding with compost tea every watering for the next few times would be a nutrient overload since they are now in rich soil or if it would do no harm but rather benefit them...

Thanks in advance
 

corky1968

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Your probably safer to feed every second time unless of course you use very little each time.

All I know it's safer to go slower when feeding.

An underfed plant is healthier than a burnt plant.
 

Aint It Fresh

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Your probably safer to feed every second time unless of course you use very little each time.

All I know it's safer to go slower when feeding.

An underfed plant is healthier than a burnt plant.

True. So then a compost tea dose would be considered a feeding? I am using a full line of nutrients aside from that too.
 

Aint It Fresh

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Well here is the latest update. Almost all of them look like this. At this rate they will be dead and leafless in no time........... Would be so devastating to lose the whole crop. I am at a loss.
 

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corky1968

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They look very thirsty.

With outdoor plants don't be shy to water them.

I would transplant them ASAP now as well.

I used to give each my outdoor plants 2 gallons of water
over a period of 1/2 hour roughly. I watered two plants at
a time taking turns with 2 two gallon pails to make sure each
plant got the same amount.

All is not lost if you move fast. I've seen much worse.

Don't give up.
 

Aint It Fresh

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They look very thirsty. With outdoor plants don't be shy to water them.

I used to give each plant 2 gallons of water. Do it ASAP

I gave them a heavy watering yesterday man, I don't know what is up with it. It was a slow watering with a shower head style wand so it penetrated deeply and it must have been at least 2 gallons per. They are getting plenty of water and I'm using an advanced 8 bottle line of nutrients pH'd perfectly every time so I have no idea why they are showing any deficiencies or signs of stress at all. I'm at a total loss. What am I doing wrong?????
 

corky1968

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The most important thing is to transplant them into the soil.

They are probably root bound and outside black pots get
really hot in the daytime. The root may be cooking.

Trust me they'll get better once in the soil.
 

Aint It Fresh

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The most important thing is to transplant them into the soil.

They are probably root bound and outside black pots get
really hot in the daytime. The root may be cooking.

Trust me they'll get better once in the soil.

Thank you Corky, I'll get on that! Anyone else have any suggestions?
 

corky1968

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1. Dig the holes.

2. Spray some water to moisten the bottom and the sides of the hole.

3. Put the plant in and water again with maybe a gallon this time.

4. In good draining soil it's almost impossible to overwater plants outdoors when planting directly in soil.

Good Luck

:tiphat:
 

Aint It Fresh

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1. Dig the holes.

2. Spray some water to moisten the bottom and the sides of the hole.

3. Put the plant in and water again with maybe a gallon this time.

4. In good draining soil it's almost impossible to overwater plants outdoors when planting directly in soil.

Good Luck

:tiphat:

Well I am using 200 gallon smart pots and I have transplanted about half of them and they are all behaving similarly. I transplant with azos and great white mycos and about 2 gallons of water. I don't see what I am doing wrong. That's why I am so confused right now.
 

Aint It Fresh

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Well, just went to inspect the garden and came across a plant whose leaves are corkscrewing and crispy... This is all becoming too much.. It's all bad here. I am having serious doubts about the whole crop at this point.
 

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Crazy Composer

Mushkeeki Gitigay • Medicine Planter
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Doubt is fatal, bro, seriously.

Keep on growing. We ALL have troubles along the path of mastery, no matter how nice our pictures are when we share them. The troubling times urge us on to learn our craft. Don't give up, you'll be a master grower eventually, if you are determined.
 

Aint It Fresh

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Doubt is fatal, bro, seriously.

Keep on growing. We ALL have troubles along the path of mastery, no matter how nice our pictures are when we share them. The troubling times urge us on to learn our craft. Don't give up, you'll be a master grower eventually, if you are determined.

Needed those words man. I appreciate it. I just hate seeing all of these problems when i am putting my best foot forward. I am brewing some tea as we speak. At first I thought N deficiency but then I looked at my leaf color which is a deep dark green. what do you think of that crispy corkscrewed leaf problem? I would love to give my plants exactly what they want but it seems even the wealth of information that is the internet is turning up empty for me. It's surprising that my problem seems unusual. I try my damnedest not to overreact or lose hope but like i've said, its unbelievably discouraging. sorry to project that on you guys.
 

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Teas don't have to be nutrient-rich, just microbe-rich. A tiny bit of compost and some molasses will bring a lot of life to your tea and your soil. All that organic matter in the soil will harm pH levels until it becomes alive with trillions of microbes. When it does become alive, your soil pH will adjust itself. Organic soil is absolutely TOXIC to plants... Until the organic matter is sufficiently colonized by happy bacteria and fungi. If we were talking about synthetic ferts this advice would be different altogether. Life, man. Gotta wind life to her to get her to sing for you. If you have enough organic material in the soil, all you need is the microbial life to make it break down and feed the ladies naturally. So, (in your situation) a tea built exclusively for microbes is better than a tea built for fertilizing AND microbes. Just microbes is what you need now. It seems to me anyhow... I truly wish I could be there to help in person.
 

Aint It Fresh

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Teas don't have to be nutrient-rich, just microbe-rich. A tiny bit of compost and some molasses will bring a lot of life to your tea and your soil. All that organic matter in the soil will harm pH levels until it becomes alive with trillions of microbes. When it does become alive, your soil pH will adjust itself. Organic soil is absolutely TOXIC to plants... Until the organic matter is sufficiently colonized by happy bacteria and fungi. If we were talking about synthetic ferts this advice would be different altogether. Life, man. Gotta wind life to her to get her to sing for you. If you have enough organic material in the soil, all you need is the microbial life to make it break down and feed the ladies naturally. So, (in your situation) a tea built exclusively for microbes is better than a tea built for fertilizing AND microbes. Just microbes is what you need now. It seems to me anyhow... I truly wish I could be there to help in person.

You're here in spirit my friend. Your advice is immeasurably valuable to me so words can't express my gratitude. Let me give you my recipe and see what you would add or subtract...

Per gallon measurements

2 tbs bokashi
6 tbs worm castings
6 tbs compost
6 tbs alfalfa meal
1 tsp molasses
1 tsp fish hydrolysate
1 tsp kelp
1/4 tsp humic acid
 

bombadil.360

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sounds to me as if you are slowing killing them with love.

your plants are not acting up, you are, by adding all that shit to the plants all the time.

chill out and leave the plants be, just give them plain water until June 21th. which will be the summer solstice, longest day of year; because from now on, it is when there will be a ton of growth and the plants can get a chance to use the fuck ton of shit you have given them already. and even after June 21st, don't feed until you see new growth showing that it needs more food, if not, leave them be.

if you keep adding shit to try to fix it you'll screw them up for good.

if I were you, I'd start a bunch of seeds now just in case it is too late and the trend is irreversible due to over toxicity in the soil.

leave them be, and just given them plain water when needed without exaggerating.
 

Aint It Fresh

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sounds to me as if you are slowing killing them with love.

your plants are not acting up, you are, by adding all that shit to the plants all the time.

chill out and leave the plants be, just give them plain water until June 21th. which will be the summer solstice, longest day of year; because from now on, it is when there will be a ton of growth and the plants can get a chance to use the fuck ton of shit you have given them already. and even after June 21st, don't feed until you see new growth showing that it needs more food, if not, leave them be.

if you keep adding shit to try to fix it you'll screw them up for good.

if I were you, I'd start a bunch of seeds now just in case it is too late and the trend is irreversible due to over toxicity in the soil.

leave them be, and just given them plain water when needed without exaggerating.

Well as I said, the transplants haven't gotten any nutrients. They are just sitting in the supersoil.
 

bombadil.360

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Man, I don't wanna be a dick head, but read yourself when you write stuff like "they are just sitting in the super soil"...

What else do you want? To add the concentrated semen of Shiva to the plants to magically fix the over toxicity?

The sooner you learn that less is more when growing herb the sooner you'll grow kick ass stuff.

Again, just give your plants plain fresh water when needed, they'll show you they will grow like they are supposed to. You got the sun working its magic over them already.

Give them time, you just transplanted, the growth that was damaged is gone, but you'll see the new growth come healthy, provided the soil you mixed with so much shit in it will allow it.

Good luck!
 
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