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[Bulénath]

Hi everyone.

I have been talking to a close relative who works for Air Force intelligence in the Pentagon. Bascially a computer hacker for millitary.

Anyway, we were talking about how easy it is for the governement to watch the date being sent back and forth between our location in the U.S. and the server over seas. Basically all the information is being viewed as it crosses over, when it is still in U.S. territory,

We talked about how there may have been members who have dissapeared for a while, then show up again. I am wondering the possiblility of these growers getting caught, then turn into Narcs that participate in these forums.

Anyway, although I am good with plants, I know basically nothing about internet security and the details of how the internet really works.

I was advised to search for "anonymizer", open up a new account, before posting information about illegal activities. The thing is, when I surf this site and post, I just do so from home on a wireless laptop. I really don't know anything about this stuff, so I am hoping some of you can help and point me in the right direction.

I tried to talk to my relative about things that I have read here...Things such as "dont worry, the server is in aother country, and the U.S would have to supeona an international server". But my relative just laughed and said "you are not listening to me".
This person declined to say anything further, saying "I said too much already".

 

[Wannabreed]

how much max lifetime for the same member that whould show same cookies etc... 2 years ?
edit; im a real new member ty.

 

[Bulénath]

I don't understand what you mean...
I am looking for the best, most safest way to remaining an active, participating member on ICM, while doing something illegal...

 

[Wannabreed]

dunno really thats why i ask
i do it for medical purposes and 400W only so ^^

 

[LiLWaynE]

who is to say that all of the information and pictures i post here are my own and not copied from elsewhere?

that itsself will take alot of evidence to prove...

the guys who the government really want (the guys who make big $$$) typically do not post on this site... because of this, the government has to resort to other ways of catching those bad guys...

soon enough though, i do believe this whole illegal drug forum information exchange will come to an end...

 

[Bulénath]

There are many people who choose never to post because of these issues I speak of. But for those who do actively participate, what types of precautions should we be taking when posting pictures?

For one, I read that you should edit a picture with Paint shop and save it under a different file name, and then post it? Or something like that..?

 

[Weedninja]

I do not have the slightest bit of doubt that the Federal Government has the ability to track our movements online. The thing that saves us is jurisdiction. The DEA doesn't "do" small time pot growers and smokers. The guys the DEA are concerned with are the guys that make the big $$, like LW said. Those guys don't even touch the weed they sell. The vast majority of U.S. pot busts are by state and local cops. Ask your relative how much information the USAF passes on to state and local le agencies.

As for snitches, they are the reason why you need to seriously consider who you give your safe address to.

I would not consider posting on this site without using a proxy server. You can find a list of proxies at http://www.proxy.org
Try to find one that is not hosted on U.S servers, preferably in a country with good mj laws and a lukewarm relationship with the U.S.

Wannabreed: I love the international flavor we have here, but I don't know what you're trying to ask. Maybe you can get someone in the other language forums to help you or at least help you ask your question.

 

[Weedninja]

You snuck that in while I was typing. Read this: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=67489

 

[Maj.PotHead]

lmao track my IP it takes ya to another state in which i dont reside in, thats about all im at liberty to discuss lol. but really yes the us gov pays a few board ppl to troll these types of open forums. of course they do any1 thinks they dont lives in a fantasy world but as stated the GOV has better things to do then try n spend money they really dont have. tracking down all the posters of forums such as this 1 is way to time consuming, whats cooler is the gov can listen in on your sell phone. weather your usen it or it's off

 

[TeslaCoil]

If you're running windows xp here's an easy way to set up a proxy. First go to this site and find an anonymous proxy server.

http://www.samair.ru/proxy/

Next, open up the control panel and go to "Internet Options" (switch to classic view if you don't see it). Click on the "Connections" tab. In the bottom pane you should see a box that says "Lan Settings", click on this. You will see two boxes in the bottom dialog box where you fill in proxy information. On the webpage with the proxy lists addresses are in the format xx.xx.xx.xx:yyyy the xx.xx.xx.xx part is the IP address and the yyyy part is the port. Fill in the info appropriately and check the box for "bypass proxy for local addresses" if you run local servers in your house (probably not for most users). To check and make sure it worked go to the following address http://whatismyip.com/ and your IP address should be the proxy address. This will make it look like the proxy server is visiting the site instead of a home IP address linked back to you.

As far as opening up images in paint and renaming them this has to do more with metadata that the image contains. There was a post on the forums a while ago talking about how if you take a picture with a camera phone that has gps the gps data is embedded into the picture and can give away your location. As far as a digital camera goes you should be fine, I'm not sure if the file naming conventions contain data on the specific camera that took the picture but I highly doubt it.

If you want to be extra careful you can encrypt your hard drive so the internet history and pictures can't be easily accessed in case you get raided. I'm not gonna go into the specifics on how to do this and I think they can make you give up your encryption keys.

Overall though I think if you aren't doing a big commercial grow you really don't have too much to worry about. Anyone who is monitoring internet traffic to catch a grower is going after the big fish not the closet growers.

 

[Bulénath]

Hi everyone,
I really appreciate the helpfull information. Right now I have set my home page to anonymouse.org, where from now on every webiste I visit will be made from this kinda anonymous I.P. generator. I will be searching for better options though, this is just temporary. I will be reading all the posted links you guys shared and will report back. Thanks again

Hey wait a minute!!!! Before I click send, I don't know what the hell is going on, but there are all these pictures in my gallery that are not even mine! What the fuck??

 

[Bulénath]

Wow that is soo wierd! When I open my account through a website that gives me a fake IP, and try to post my own pictures from my own gallery, I can't even access them! Even the pictues below on the "reply to thread" page, are not even my pictues! That is very strange...

 

[Bulénath]

I do not have the slightest bit of doubt that the Federal Government has the ability to track our movements online. The thing that saves us is jurisdiction. The DEA doesn't "do" small time pot growers and smokers. The guys the DEA are concerned with are the guys that make the big $$, like LW said. Those guys don't even touch the weed they sell. The vast majority of U.S. pot busts are by state and local cops. Ask your relative how much information the USAF passes on to state and local le agencies.

As for snitches, they are the reason why you need to seriously consider who you give your safe address to.

I would not consider posting on this site without using a proxy server. You can find a list of proxies at http://www.proxy.org
Try to find one that is not hosted on U.S servers, preferably in a country with good mj laws and a lukewarm relationship with the U.S.

Wannabreed: I love the international flavor we have here, but I don't know what you're trying to ask. Maybe you can get someone in the other language forums to help you or at least help you ask your question.

What can happen by posting on this website without a proxy server?

 

[Wannabreed]

sorry for my english
i thought about sniff the data and then identify very active members in some automatized way and store them all in database (flagged)

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

who is to say that all of the information and pictures i post here are my own and not copied from elsewhere?

that itsself will take alot of evidence to prove...

true... but how can they even prove it is John Doe or Michael Jackson who is posting the very information that cannot be linked back to the poster either?

anyone good at html can falsify any post/entry into any data-base, whether icmag or not, so who is it that can verify if it is authentic, or that it truly belongs to the poster, etc... ?

for all they know, i am a bot, or a trainted dolphin

imo, the only way they can catch you on-line is that after locating your physical position, they go check on you and find a grow at the same physical location, then you are screwed... but they simply have no case if all they have is pics, posts and your physical location; so long as they do not have a garden that they can link back at you sucessfully, you are good.

so this means, never post from wherever the grow may be, if you have a grow of course, because no one here has grows anyways :wink:

soon enough though, i do believe this whole illegal drug forum information exchange will come to an end...

no way, they cannot control the internet, as simple as that. they shut one server down, another will pop-up... we are more than they are too...

peace

 

[JJScorpio]

Hi everyone.

I have been talking to a close relative who works for Air Force intelligence in the Pentagon. Bascially a computer hacker for millitary.

Anyway, we were talking about how easy it is for the governement to watch the date being sent back and forth between our location in the U.S. and the server over seas. Basically all the information is being viewed as it crosses over, when it is still in U.S. territory,

We talked about how there may have been members who have dissapeared for a while, then show up again. I am wondering the possiblility of these growers getting caught, then turn into Narcs that participate in these forums.

Anyway, although I am good with plants, I know basically nothing about internet security and the details of how the internet really works.

I was advised to search for "anonymizer", open up a new account, before posting information about illegal activities. The thing is, when I surf this site and post, I just do so from home on a wireless laptop. I really don't know anything about this stuff, so I am hoping some of you can help and point me in the right direction.

I tried to talk to my relative about things that I have read here...Things such as "dont worry, the server is in aother country, and the U.S would have to supeona an international server". But my relative just laughed and said "you are not listening to me".
This person declined to say anything further, saying "I said too much already".

If this person were so smart he would have told you to go to something a little more intricate than anononomizer, lol.....

You keep talking about posting here as being illegal. Simply posting here is not illegal. Furthermore, ask your friend how everything is being viewed as you say. Also ask him if he knows how the US is supposed to obtain a warrant to someones internet activity to an overseas server. Especially when it involves only a few plants.

 

[kmk420kali]

We are discussing "Pot"-- There are Message Boards out there for Heroin, Pedophiles, Meth, Murder....I have been posting on Weed related Boards for over 10 years...I have posted my picture, posted when and where I would be at Shows, I have met dozens, if not hundreds of ppl that I have met online....and never had or heard of anyone having problems because of it--
The only way I see it would be a prob, is if you get busted at home, and they find something on your computer that ties you into something they can prove--

 

[Bulénath]

We are discussing "Pot"-- There are Message Boards out there for Heroin, Pedophiles, Meth, Murder....I have been posting on Weed related Boards for over 10 years...I have posted my picture, posted when and where I would be at Shows, I have met dozens, if not hundreds of ppl that I have met online....and never had or heard of anyone having problems because of it--
The only way I see it would be a prob, is if you get busted at home, and they find something on your computer that ties you into something they can prove--

So you are saying even if the pigs roll up in my house and find 24 mature and 13 immature plants, unless they can tie me to internet activity which proves beyond a reasonable doubt that I am the person behind this grow operation, that I am safe?

Even if I am the only person renting the house?

 

[Bulénath]

true... but how can they even prove it is John Doe or Michael Jackson who is posting the very information that cannot be linked back to the poster either?

anyone good at html can falsify any post/entry into any data-base, whether icmag or not, so who is it that can verify if it is authentic, or that it truly belongs to the poster, etc... ?

for all they know, i am a bot, or a trainted dolphin

imo, the only way they can catch you on-line is that after locating your physical position, they go check on you and find a grow at the same physical location, then you are screwed... but they simply have no case if all they have is pics, posts and your physical location; so long as they do not have a garden that they can link back at you sucessfully, you are good.

so this means, never post from wherever the grow may be, if you have a grow of course, because no one here has grows anyways :wink:





no way, they cannot control the internet, as simple as that. they shut one server down, another will pop-up... we are more than they are too...

peace

How do the pigs find your physical location thorugh your I.P, or better yet, through these posts alone? I take it every post I make has an I.P attached that almost anyone with the know-how can see? So how do the pigs take that information, and find my actual location?

Second, I would like to have internet at my grow house, because I will sit there all day and just guard my plants, out in the rural parts...If I use a proxy site to post here on ICMAG, how do the pigs find my physical location?

 

[KharmaGirl]

So you are saying even if the pigs roll up in my house and find 24 mature and 13 immature plants, unless they can tie me to internet activity which proves beyond a reasonable doubt that I am the person behind this grow operation, that I am safe?

Even if I am the only person renting the house?

I think you missed his point...you can't get busted for simply posting here. Give the Cops physical proof in front of their eyes of a grow, and yes you can get busted.